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Disgusted by school’s response to complaint about pervy teacher - Final Update

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SophEll · 02/05/2025 13:08

Well, well, well. I’ve had a very lengthy and interesting phone call from the Headteacher (HT) handling my complaint.

I now consider the matter resolved, I’m sure you are wondering what was said and I’ve done my best to summarise below:

-My initial complaint WAS wrongly dismissed without investigation - as the comments made related to a school interaction.

-The HT has offered me an unreserved apology on behalf of the school for the handling of my initial complaint which I have gratefully accepted, as long as it’s also offered in writing (which I’m assured it will be).

-I’m told the Chair was most unimpressed to learn of my experience when complaining and an urgent review of their complaints procedure has been ordered. The HT tells me that they’ll ensure appropriate oversight is put in place moving forward and was extremely grateful for me bringing this to their attention.

-As previously noted, they cannot share the outcome of the investigation into my concerns about the interaction I had, which is perfectly understandable. Yes, I know he’ll get a slap on the wrist at best and should be suitably embarrassed, but that should be sufficient to prevent someone else going through what I did.

The term ‘tail between legs’ comes to mind for certain posters on here - I await your apologies with bated breath!

Thanks for those who’ve offered constructive suggestions on how to proceed, this outcome is a victory for anyone who has ever had a complaint wrongly dismissed.

I’ve also thanked my DH, whilst initially sceptical his support in emailing the Chair made all the difference. I have the utmost respect for how the Chair and HT handled this so promptly.

I feel as though I can now put the whole sorry saga behind me and move forward (I’ll probably give that bar a miss in the future mind you!)

I’ve told DH to put the champagne on ice!

OP posts:
Justmovehousethen · 02/05/2025 14:26

SophEll · 02/05/2025 13:34

A lot of MN’ers who were on the previous threads will be doing this right now I think!

Nope.

Still think you are awful.

sandrapinchedmysandwich · 02/05/2025 14:25

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This in spades. I still think they will be laughing at you in the staff room and are just doing damage limitation with this. The smuggery, if that's even a word, is outstanding here and it doesn't paint you in a good light at all.

Justmovehousethen · 02/05/2025 14:24

🤔

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LetMeGoogleThat · 02/05/2025 14:22

Get a hobby, you've been fed the oldest trick in the book. Its called making sure you feel heard, school will do fook all, but you'll leave them in peace.

Elliania · 02/05/2025 14:21

Sounds like they've just paying lip service to your points in hopes you'll fuck off and leave them alone. What a massive win for you.

purpleme12 · 02/05/2025 14:20

I haven't commented on any of these threads about this situation before but I've read them and the overriding impressuon I get of you is someone who's just so smug. That comes across more than any other feeling on the subject

WigglywagglyWanda · 02/05/2025 14:19

Indeed. It's possible for him to be a dick and for her to be a smug vacuous prat.

Op do get over yourself tail between my legs my aunt fanny🤣

I cringed reading your update so much I could fit in my bottom drawer😁

Just as I predicted Head Teacher has been tasked to make it go away, another parent waving a pitchfork who needs a pat on the head and to feel placated. I wouldn't have complained personally but defended your right to do so, even though I strongly disagreed that it merited such an official approach.

The reason you get such ridicule is your terribly unlikeable manner, and your post from your high horse thinking you've won. You still don't know whether your complaint is being taken seriously because you've got a pat on the head from the Head.

Muffinmam · 02/05/2025 14:19

I went back to your original post where you were told in no unreasonable terms to get over yourself and not to damage this guy’s career.

Yet you persevered and escalated your complaint.

This had nothing to do with your child - this teacher flirted on you on a night out. A mitigating factor is he was drunk. Obviously, you’re not used to being hit on.

You were told by the head teacher that this wasn’t a school issue.

You believed you were in the right and you pushed the issue and now you are giddy with excitement that you have gotten this teacher into trouble.

I need to express how pathetic you are. Your behaviour by pushing this issue with this guys employer was to continue the narrative that you’re so attractive he couldn’t help but be creepy towards you. It’s one thing to be angry at the behaviour but it’s another thing to react with positive joy at the prospect you’ve interfered with a person’s career.

Pathetic.

GeneralPeter · 02/05/2025 14:18

Mrsttcno1 · 02/05/2025 13:57

I currently work across most sectors as part of a diverse role, in none of them would management be the slightest bit arsed about this.

A comment made off duty, off site, with someone you currently have no professional relationship with whatsoever, in a bar. Not work related, not their business. Flirting isn’t a crime & although this was a very clumsy attempt as it, that is all it was.

We all go home/leave work and do things that we wouldn’t do in a work environment, have sex, drink alcohol, swear etc, it’s not a work issue.

I'm not surprised that there are some sectors where this would be brushed off, but I'm surprised teaching is one of them. (Partly because this sort of thing stopped being a laughing matter in my, quite male-dominated, sectors two decades ago, and I thought of teaching as more progressive than that).

Two reasons I think I'm seeing this very differently from most here: i) I'm seeing her as a work contact (analogous to a client/former client). The sectors I know, employers care hugely how their staff behave with work contacts, especially unwanted sexualised comments, which would be stamped on hard. Many people seem to see her as 'just a mum', or 'just a former mum', which I'm not really understanding. His profession is teaching, he knows her only through that, professional standards apply. And ii) on premises/off premises doesn't make much difference to disrepute (especially as the work context was central to his comment). 'I was drunk and in a bar' wouldn't be a good enough explanation.

May I ask whether the sectors you know are ones that are traditionally considered professions?

JasperTheDoll · 02/05/2025 14:18

Ilikeadrink14 · 02/05/2025 14:15

Hoppinggreen!!! Wash your mouth out! 🫢 😂

Does that mean I'm not allowed to ask the science teacher if I can use his face as a chair when he tells me to sit down at parents evening?

Ilikeadrink14 · 02/05/2025 14:15

Hoppinggreen · 02/05/2025 14:10

I would rather spend my time with a Teacher who made slightly sleazy comments to me in a club than an insufferable arsehole.
Especially if said Teacher was Mr Davies from DS's Y3 - I would have had let him bend me over a desk in heartbeat, however I think he swung a different way.

Hoppinggreen!!! Wash your mouth out! 🫢 😂

FrippEnos · 02/05/2025 14:14

Whenim63 · 02/05/2025 14:12

“Brian, we’ve had some woman on. Did you get shedded and say something you shouldn’t l?
”oh, shit, yeah I did. Too many sambucas”
”No worries. Don’t do it again, I can’t be arsed with these phone calls”

More likely

“Brian, we’ve had some woman on. Did you get shedded and say something sexually inappropriate?
”WTF, didn't happen”
”No worries. Just have to check, I can’t be arsed with these phone calls”

ilovesooty · 02/05/2025 14:14

Invisalignissue · 02/05/2025 14:09

Pleased to hear the update, I’m glad they took it seriously.

It seems pretty clear that they didn't take it seriously and just said what they had to to get rid of her and her tiresome complaint.

JasperTheDoll · 02/05/2025 14:14

SuperTrooper14 · 02/05/2025 14:09

People have NOT being saying what he said was acceptable. The overwhelming consensus has been that it wasn't. But the vast majority also don't think he deserves to be dragged through an internal investigation and potentially lose his job for an incident that happened between two adults in his private life. But having just messaged my teacher OH for his take on OP's update, he's just replied that the head's clearly told her what she wanted to hear and nothing else will happen to the teacher. OH is also willing to bet a case of champagne that OP was THAT parent while her kids were at the school and that she was on the secret list all schools have of parents who are an absolute fucking nightmare to deal with!

This is almost word for word how my teacher OH described her last night. Along with saying the Head will just fob her off with the standard off you fuck placating response because they don't have the time or resources to deal with malicious complaints

Whenim63 · 02/05/2025 14:12

“Brian, we’ve had some woman on. Did you get shedded and say something you shouldn’t l?
”oh, shit, yeah I did. Too many sambucas”
”No worries. Don’t do it again, I can’t be arsed with these phone calls”

Everyothernamewasalreadyinuse · 02/05/2025 14:12

As someone who has worked and trained people to be complaint handlers for several companies, tbf the school has handled this well. It given a pat on the head, OP Feels like she has won, and nothing has changed.

Soon you will receive a letter including i would think the comments of -

Highlighted a failure in our procedure and have failed to meet expectations. We will use this as a opportunity to refresh employee training on how to handle sensitive events and complaints so that it meets our value and expectations as a school.

We take issues seriously and have spoken at length to all parties involved in both the event and the failure to follow the correct complaints procedure.

We have now dealt with this matter internally

A good working relationship with Parents, whether past or present is vital to us as a School

In short - Yes OP you are being fobbed off. I would not be surprised if the actual teacher has not even been made aware of your complaint. To be honest, the chair and head are probably more pissed off that this wasn't given a brush off reply to you earlier to save wasting their time.

The problem with people like you it is always a rolling complaint -
1: what the teacher said
2: not happy with reply
3: not happy at how it was escalated

I have no doubt you will also not be happy with the bog standard letter you are going to receive.

At this point i think the only thing that will satisfy you is if the teacher parades down the street, wearing a pervert sign while you walk behind him shouting shame

spicemaiden · 02/05/2025 14:12

Honestly? You’re putting champagne on ice for what you ‘went through’

Frankly I find you entire attitude appalling - but then I’ve been through actual abuse from men that actually caused real harm and had lasting effects and I will never ever be the same again.

He was inappropriate.

He didn’t assault you, he didn't stalk you, he didn’t literally ruin your life.

I find your whole demeanour over this to be utterly repugnant to be honest.

Ilikeadrink14 · 02/05/2025 14:11

SuperTrooper14 · 02/05/2025 14:09

People have NOT being saying what he said was acceptable. The overwhelming consensus has been that it wasn't. But the vast majority also don't think he deserves to be dragged through an internal investigation and potentially lose his job for an incident that happened between two adults in his private life. But having just messaged my teacher OH for his take on OP's update, he's just replied that the head's clearly told her what she wanted to hear and nothing else will happen to the teacher. OH is also willing to bet a case of champagne that OP was THAT parent while her kids were at the school and that she was on the secret list all schools have of parents who are an absolute fucking nightmare to deal with!

Absolutely! No more to be said!

cardibach · 02/05/2025 14:11

5128gap · 02/05/2025 13:59

Why would the OP care if a bunch of immature half wits find this funny? Tbh I think you do teachers a disservice tarring them all with the same brush. I know several excellent teachers who wouldn't behave like this man or find the situation funny.

Nobody is saying it’s acceptable or that they would behave like him. And they aren’t saying the nightclub incident was funny.
They are saying the OP’s approach is funny and the school will be thinking the same.

VexedofVirginiaWater · 02/05/2025 14:11

If any of this happened at all ...

His remark (whichever one it was) was horribly sleazy.
You don't sound very nice either.
The school have just placated you so they can get on with their job.
Your voting options are ridiculously skewed to you "winning" either way.

Hoppinggreen · 02/05/2025 14:10

I would rather spend my time with a Teacher who made slightly sleazy comments to me in a club than an insufferable arsehole.
Especially if said Teacher was Mr Davies from DS's Y3 - I would have had let him bend me over a desk in heartbeat, however I think he swung a different way.

SuperTrooper14 · 02/05/2025 14:09

GeneralPeter · 02/05/2025 14:04

Should they be sacked for a first offence? Probably not. But the overwhelming tenor of this thread has been that OP is being ridiculous and vindictive for complaining, and that the behaviour is acceptable (mostly either because it happened off-premises, or because she no longer has a child at the school).

I don't know firefighting, police or paramedic worlds well. If a policeman/ fireman/paramedic spotted a women he knew through work and went up unbidden and said that to her, would that generally be considered acceptable?

I don't understand your economic argument. You aren't surely suggesting that the acceptability depends on how important the man is to his job? (I'm sure that does often happen in practice, but are you saying that it should do?)

People have NOT being saying what he said was acceptable. The overwhelming consensus has been that it wasn't. But the vast majority also don't think he deserves to be dragged through an internal investigation and potentially lose his job for an incident that happened between two adults in his private life. But having just messaged my teacher OH for his take on OP's update, he's just replied that the head's clearly told her what she wanted to hear and nothing else will happen to the teacher. OH is also willing to bet a case of champagne that OP was THAT parent while her kids were at the school and that she was on the secret list all schools have of parents who are an absolute fucking nightmare to deal with!

Invisalignissue · 02/05/2025 14:09

Pleased to hear the update, I’m glad they took it seriously.

Jabberwok · 02/05/2025 14:08

I think the teacher dodged a bullet when you knocked his, admittedly shit, pass back. Your husband must have the patience of a saint because I can only imagine what you are like should anything seriously bad happen around you.

cardibach · 02/05/2025 14:08

CaptainMyCaptain · 02/05/2025 13:51

She was no longer a parent.

And he wasn’t talking about her to colleagues. Totally different situation, @Maray1967
He was in a club, drunk, said something stupid and unprofessional, realised he’d said something stupid and unprofessional, pretended it was a joke and went away.