Page 9 | To think MNHQ should delete all chat about ‘the golden/bonus dose’ for those on WLI?

Shefliesonherownwings · 01/05/2025 16:47

Why does it bother you?

Dymaxion · 01/05/2025 16:46

The people I know who are removing the remaining medication from the pens are doing it so they get an extra week free , not so they are taking it as not prescribed if that makes sense @istrich
Are you saying people are giving themselves additional doses ?

ShaunaSadeki · 01/05/2025 16:45

So you want to have a discussion about you wanting to ban other people discussing something?

nomas · 01/05/2025 16:44

istrich · 01/05/2025 16:12

I’m not suggesting people blame their decisions on what some random we said but I do see a lot of people with little understanding of what they are doing take advice from these forums

You are correct that policing it would be a never ending job, however less people would post if it wasn’t allowed to be posted, so less policing needed

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But if some bad advice got through that MNHQ didn’t delete than people like you would be suing MN.

Blueskies25 · 01/05/2025 16:43

istrich · 01/05/2025 16:37

No I don’t I was just raising the discussion as to whether or not this should be a topic that’s not allowed. It was certainly reduce the amount of threads about it, even if they can’t eliminate it

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I haven’t seen that many threads specifically on the golden dose

RhaenysRocks · 01/05/2025 16:43

istrich · 01/05/2025 16:40

Right, but not everyone is as able as you or I. I saw a poster once ask where you put the needle in to get the liquid out and it baffled me that after following instructions 4 times to use her pen that she didn’t cotton on she was putting a needle in to the pen and that’s how it came out. If she know she would have know where to put the needle for the extra. People who have less understanding are more likely to get it wrong.

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Right well you obviously not seen a pen or know how they work as the way you use the supplied needles is totally different to how you extract the additional dose. The forums are full of knowledgeable and experienced users of WLI who give accurate and careful advice, based on actual knowledge.

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istrich · 01/05/2025 16:41

Rewis · 01/05/2025 16:38

Part of me thinks that people should have critical thinking skills and it is not the responsibility of the site. Especially since the aite is not targeted to underaged children.

I use it all the time, I’m very active in WL forums but i can raise the discussion whilst also using the board, surely?

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MsFogi · 01/05/2025 16:41

No this is the joy of MN - women chat, women decide whether or not to take the advice or not, women are not censored by MN. Sometimes it brings us extreme joy when it comes to medical issues - I always smile when I think of the home-haemorrhoid removal thread years back.

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istrich · 01/05/2025 16:40

Rewis · 01/05/2025 16:38

Part of me thinks that people should have critical thinking skills and it is not the responsibility of the site. Especially since the aite is not targeted to underaged children.

Right, but not everyone is as able as you or I. I saw a poster once ask where you put the needle in to get the liquid out and it baffled me that after following instructions 4 times to use her pen that she didn’t cotton on she was putting a needle in to the pen and that’s how it came out. If she know she would have know where to put the needle for the extra. People who have less understanding are more likely to get it wrong.

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spoonbillstretford · 01/05/2025 16:40

I haven't done it with mine, as I don't want to muck about with small doses, but I wouldn't say it was particularly dangerous or ill advised, given it's a smaller dose than the others.

SilenceInside · 01/05/2025 16:39

@istrich you can hide the whole WLI/T section if you are bothered by the number of threads about a topic that you don't like.

Rewis · 01/05/2025 16:38

Part of me thinks that people should have critical thinking skills and it is not the responsibility of the site. Especially since the aite is not targeted to underaged children.

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istrich · 01/05/2025 16:37

Blueskies25 · 01/05/2025 16:34

There is an awful lot of misinformation on this forum, do you expect MNHQ to police it all

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No I don’t I was just raising the discussion as to whether or not this should be a topic that’s not allowed. It was certainly reduce the amount of threads about it, even if they can’t eliminate it

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ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 01/05/2025 16:37

istrich · 01/05/2025 16:12

I’m not suggesting people blame their decisions on what some random we said but I do see a lot of people with little understanding of what they are doing take advice from these forums

You are correct that policing it would be a never ending job, however less people would post if it wasn’t allowed to be posted, so less policing needed

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What's the problem then if people's actions aren't being influenced by the posts?

SilenceInside · 01/05/2025 16:35

MN put the usual disclaimer at the top of the WLI/T board, just like they do on any other health related section. You cannot ban people talking about this one particular medication, when there are similar discussions about all kinds of things on the boards.

Blueskies25 · 01/05/2025 16:34

istrich · 01/05/2025 16:03

I use the weight loss forums quite a lot and with the arrival of WLI they are busier than ever. But, it’s worrying the amount of people who are misusing their prescription and discussing with others how to do so. Should MNHQ take action here?

There is an awful lot of misinformation on this forum, do you expect MNHQ to police it all

SilenceInside · 01/05/2025 16:34

@GrouchyBear the extra medication is not there for emergencies, and the whole design of the pen is set up to lock after using it for four normal doses. The extra medication is there for priming the needles each time you inject. You might need to do that several times per pen, depending on if you have issues with the needles, hence there being plenty of additional liquid.

To administering the remaining liquid using the pen, you need to twist so hard that you break the internal locking mechanism. That is most definitely not the intended use of the pen. Any spare needles are provided by the pharmacy, not the pen manufacturer, in case you break one or have a problem with one.

WorriedRelative · 01/05/2025 16:31

istrich · 01/05/2025 16:20

You cannot take the ‘extra’ dose from the pen

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Diabetics are normally taught to use a syringe in case of pen malfunction no reason why someone can't draw up from the pen safely.

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istrich · 01/05/2025 16:28

GrouchyBear · 01/05/2025 16:25

Yes, you can. I have done on the odd occasion that I've needed to. It's just extremely difficult to twist the pen after the 4th dose. It's there for emergencies.

So if it is intended to do this why are so many people discussing extracting it with a needle? From what o have read they are not at all supposed to give more than 4 doses.

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istrich · 01/05/2025 16:27

AlmostSummer25 · 01/05/2025 16:24

Can you explain your comment?

I don't see the problem with 'using the last of it' as many people do with any other product. Especially an expensive one!! Maybe cutting the end off a moisturiser tube to get the rest out or even the end of a toothpaste tube.

I don't understand your problem with it? What am I

What are they doing? That is actually so dangerous for MN SHOULD BAN THE DISCUSSION?? (Antony way I don't agree with things being banned unless it legally affects MN)

( I have no skin in the game as I don't use them)

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Sure, paracetamol are not issued in a measured dose pen.

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AugustMounjaroTeam · 01/05/2025 16:27

Because I'm not cavalier enough with money to effectively make the medication 25% more expensive by throwing away an extra dose - I measure it accurately, by individually packed medical syringe, and I usually find there is more than a full dose).

It is still fully in date. Why wouldn't I?

GrouchyBear · 01/05/2025 16:25

Yes, you can. I have done on the odd occasion that I've needed to. It's just extremely difficult to twist the pen after the 4th dose. It's there for emergencies.

AlmostSummer25 · 01/05/2025 16:24

istrich · 01/05/2025 16:14

Interesting effort but not realistic

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Can you explain your comment?

I don't see the problem with 'using the last of it' as many people do with any other product. Especially an expensive one!! Maybe cutting the end off a moisturiser tube to get the rest out or even the end of a toothpaste tube.

I don't understand your problem with it? What am I

What are they doing? That is actually so dangerous for MN SHOULD BAN THE DISCUSSION?? (Antony way I don't agree with things being banned unless it legally affects MN)

( I have no skin in the game as I don't use them)

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istrich · 01/05/2025 16:20

GrouchyBear · 01/05/2025 16:18

The extra dose is there in case your next prescription is delayed for any reason. It's important for diabetic patients. There is also an extra needle included.

You cannot take the ‘extra’ dose from the pen

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Julesni77 · 01/05/2025 16:20

Because its something I have regularly done with no ill effects and this is shaping up to be yet another weight loss injection bashing thread - yes the extra is there for priming but it does add up to an extra dose (slightly under I have found) of an expensive self funded medication which I personally (sample of 1 I know!) have found life altering

If someone took an unrecommended extra dose of anything else why would I care if I was not taking it - not sure what a wider audience is achieving in any positive way here?