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To think MNHQ should delete all chat about ‘the golden/bonus dose’ for those on WLI?

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istrich · 01/05/2025 16:03

I use the weight loss forums quite a lot and with the arrival of WLI they are busier than ever. But, it’s worrying the amount of people who are misusing their prescription and discussing with others how to do so. Should MNHQ take action here?

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istrich · 01/05/2025 17:03

TropicofCapricorn · 01/05/2025 17:02

Oh so the reason you want the discussion banned is because some people might not understand instructions... ?

Well, we'd be banning all sorts wouldn't we?

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Yes stupid idea really eh

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TropicofCapricorn · 01/05/2025 17:02

istrich · 01/05/2025 16:53

I have used it for 6 months. What you are suggesting here is exactly my point though. I use the pen and I understand where you would put a needle. Some people do not understand this by the time they get to wanting the extra dose. I probably explained that badly but it was ment to be an example of how some people just don’t understand how things works and should not be messing about with insulin needles.

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Oh so the reason you want the discussion banned is because some people might not understand instructions... ?

Well, we'd be banning all sorts wouldn't we?

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istrich · 01/05/2025 17:02

naemates · 01/05/2025 16:55

What I don’t understand is all of ‘concern’ on these threads are effectively about things that reduce the cost of WLI rather than preventing people from coming to harm with them, eg. discount codes or not wasting a perfectly good dose of medicine. Why gatekeep for the well off rather than worry about anorexic people?

I have a lot of concern about WLI but I decided to discuss this one today.

i also have concerns about people who don’t eat properly while taking them be it far too little or just fighting side effected becsue they are still eating the same shitty diet just less of it than before - but I didn’t want to discuss every aspect of the at

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SilenceInside · 01/05/2025 17:00

You have to inject yourself with the pen.... using a syringe to do a subcutaneous injection is not a massively different operation.

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istrich · 01/05/2025 17:00

Nevertrustacop · 01/05/2025 16:58

Are you frightened of medications in general op? Or you just have more money than sense?

I’m not frightened of it. I don’t have a lot of money either. I’m guessing I also have no sense either.

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istrich · 01/05/2025 16:58

GustyBaloo · 01/05/2025 16:55

What effect does it have on you @istrich whenever someone takes a 'golden dose'?

None I'd hope. I mean, I have seen it called the 'magic' dose, but I'm still certain that another person injecting a medication gives you any ill effects.

I'm yet to see a post where it's caused the person injection ill effects (normal side effects excluded).

None. Well none yet anyway. There is a bigger picture though and the future of these medications is vastly unknown. The misuse of the pens could lead to tighter prescription regulations and higher cost which will ultimately affect me at some point. So yes I do have an interest but also it’s worrying to see ill informed people messing about injecting themselves
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as an aside becsue it’s obviously not on mumsnet but the amount not videos of people taking their WLI and they wipe themselves and not the pen is shocking.

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AugustMounjaroTeam · 01/05/2025 16:58

spoonbillstretford · 01/05/2025 16:40

I haven't done it with mine, as I don't want to muck about with small doses, but I wouldn't say it was particularly dangerous or ill advised, given it's a smaller dose than the others.

Have been doing it for 8 months. It never has been a smaller dose for me, always a full dose and a bit more.

(Usually I just use the standard dose, which is 0.6ml, but if I am about to step up a dose I do sometimes use the extra - whilst always calculating how much of a dose that is giving me.)

Nevertrustacop · 01/05/2025 16:58

Are you frightened of medications in general op? Or you just have more money than sense?

SilenceInside · 01/05/2025 16:56

@istrich the pens don't allow for what?

HollidayRanger · 01/05/2025 16:56

Where would it end? With all the people saying don’t go to A&E etc when people post for advice. Now that could really be dangerois advice

naemates · 01/05/2025 16:55

What I don’t understand is all of ‘concern’ on these threads are effectively about things that reduce the cost of WLI rather than preventing people from coming to harm with them, eg. discount codes or not wasting a perfectly good dose of medicine. Why gatekeep for the well off rather than worry about anorexic people?

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istrich · 01/05/2025 16:55

SilenceInside · 01/05/2025 16:53

Of all the things discussed to do with WLIs that could be seen as controversial, this is the least concerning one imo.

I take Mounjaro, I use the remaining liquid to do an extra dose, to save money. I've been on the same dose for months now, and injecting it via the pen mechanism versus extracting it and injecting it with a separate syringe gives me the exact same dose of medication. I don't find that particularly problematic nor something that shouldn't be discussed.

I’m so tempted to ask how you do it given the pens don’t allow for that but it would be a massive contradiction!

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GustyBaloo · 01/05/2025 16:55

What effect does it have on you @istrich whenever someone takes a 'golden dose'?

None I'd hope. I mean, I have seen it called the 'magic' dose, but I'm still certain that another person injecting a medication gives you any ill effects.

I'm yet to see a post where it's caused the person injection ill effects (normal side effects excluded).

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istrich · 01/05/2025 16:54

Oakcupboard · 01/05/2025 16:50

there are many nurse prescribers in private weight loss clinics who recommend their patients using the extra dose because it’s so expensive. It’s perfectly safe

also I’m sure there’s financial motivation from pharmaceutical companies to discourage the use of the 5th dose

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I’m going to suggest those patients are shown how to do it safely and given the appropriate equipment rather then buying needles on Amazon etc though. I think there is a huge difference

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istrich · 01/05/2025 16:53

xanthomelana · 01/05/2025 16:52

So technically we should delete this thread because it’s about the bonus dose?

Fair enough Grin

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SilenceInside · 01/05/2025 16:53

Of all the things discussed to do with WLIs that could be seen as controversial, this is the least concerning one imo.

I take Mounjaro, I use the remaining liquid to do an extra dose, to save money. I've been on the same dose for months now, and injecting it via the pen mechanism versus extracting it and injecting it with a separate syringe gives me the exact same dose of medication. I don't find that particularly problematic nor something that shouldn't be discussed.

Summerseagull · 01/05/2025 16:53

Don't be daft
It's expensive stuff .
Why would a you waste a week's worth every month

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istrich · 01/05/2025 16:53

RhaenysRocks · 01/05/2025 16:43

Right well you obviously not seen a pen or know how they work as the way you use the supplied needles is totally different to how you extract the additional dose. The forums are full of knowledgeable and experienced users of WLI who give accurate and careful advice, based on actual knowledge.

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I have used it for 6 months. What you are suggesting here is exactly my point though. I use the pen and I understand where you would put a needle. Some people do not understand this by the time they get to wanting the extra dose. I probably explained that badly but it was ment to be an example of how some people just don’t understand how things works and should not be messing about with insulin needles.

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xanthomelana · 01/05/2025 16:52

So technically we should delete this thread because it’s about the bonus dose?

Oakcupboard · 01/05/2025 16:50

there are many nurse prescribers in private weight loss clinics who recommend their patients using the extra dose because it’s so expensive. It’s perfectly safe

also I’m sure there’s financial motivation from pharmaceutical companies to discourage the use of the 5th dose

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istrich · 01/05/2025 16:49

ShaunaSadeki · 01/05/2025 16:45

So you want to have a discussion about you wanting to ban other people discussing something?

I wondered if it should be a no go topic yes. It’s ok to ask the question.

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Fireangels · 01/05/2025 16:49

The extra medication in the pen is there to account for any that is lost when the pen is primed. Sometimes a tiny drop is released and sometimes a fair quantity squirts out. I can understand why those that pay for the pens want to make an extra dose with the leftover fluid.

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istrich · 01/05/2025 16:49

Dymaxion · 01/05/2025 16:46

The people I know who are removing the remaining medication from the pens are doing it so they get an extra week free , not so they are taking it as not prescribed if that makes sense @istrich
Are you saying people are giving themselves additional doses ?

No I’m not saying that. Non taking about exactly what you describe

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istrich · 01/05/2025 16:48

nomas · 01/05/2025 16:44

But if some bad advice got through that MNHQ didn’t delete than people like you would be suing MN.

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Goodness no don’t be ridiculous.

’people like me’? I’m just asking if it should be a ‘no go’ area. That’s all. I’m not looking to bloody sue anyone.

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SilenceInside · 01/05/2025 16:47

Also, @istrich you seem to have not noticed that there is a specific section for WLI/T and that there are all the other sections available including Weight Loss Chat for you to chat in where people generally aren't posting about injections.

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