To think MNHQ should delete all chat about ‘the golden/bonus dose’ for those on WLI?

I’d like to know too!

Maybe if the incompetent NHS didn’t make you jump through a million hoops to get the medication such as being sat in a circle with other fat people and being told to have 2 weetabix and a smoothie for breakfast, only to then be told that it’s not available, then maybe people could get it on the NHS and then wouldn’t need to take the extra dose (as the NHS likes to squander everyone’s money). However, if I’m paying bet £150 a month for it then I’m getting every last drop!

You’ll especially love that I’m on a lower dose but order the higher dose as it’s the same price and just inject less 😱😱 shock horror!

Can you? I didn’t realise that. I had to throw it away which is very expensive at over £30 a dose

Well my GP says it's safe. I'm more likely to believe him than a random stranger on mumsnet 😬

Of course they shouldn't. Mumsnet has always allowed free speech. There's always both sides of the argument available. We are all adults and are able to sort through information and assess risks for ourselves.
And actually allowing discussion makes the risks clearer.

I have used a pen longer than 30 days as I ordered a 5ml but only wanted 2.5. Instead of chucking the whole pen I just halved the dose and then I did a couple extra off the end because of course there was loads left after 4 weeks. I read up on it and decided to take the risk to go a couple of weeks past 30 days otherwise idve been chucking away loads of very expensive medication that I am paying for.
I didn't extract anything though. I did not need to break the pen.
But I sympathise with people who consider doing golden doses. I'd never do it myself because I'm just not confident enough loading the syringe in that manner. But anyone with diabetes probably would know how to do it anyway so I understand why they do that, they don't want to waste money and are confident they can do it safely.

Yes you can. I’ve drawn it up with diabetic syringes which I bought from the chemists.

This is the issue. Like others, you are also being led ny misinformation. I completely understand your perspective and how you have got this (incorrect) information, but you are wrong in this instance. I've actually run this via my GP (when I went in for a chat about possible side effects) and he thought it was a 'no-brainer' and 'completely safe'. I haven't touched an insulin needle. If I wanted to, I'd run that by my GP too and if he said it was fine, I wouldn't have a problem with that either. There are MANY people spreading misinformation on mumset about WLIs... but you are doing that as well with your posts.

I get extra needle heads from pharmacist. 5 for a 4 click pen.

Once the pen has done it's full 4 clicks of 0.6 it will lock though, so no extra dose without withdrawing with a separate syringe.

I've never heard of a separate syringe being sent out with pens.

Can I ask what prompted the post though?

In all honesty, you're not wrong in that prescription drugs are being openly abused and the means to do so are posted freely.
I openly abuse Mounjaro to get an extra dose.
Sometimes I abuse my other prescribed drugs to get some extra sleep! But I'm not condoning that, or naming the drugs or what I take because that would be frowned upon.

So, you aren't being unreasonable. You don't have to accept that you are.

I'm interested in your reasons though for not wanting it discussed.

Because I'm nosey like that!

I don't think it will be too long until 'golden dose' posts are banned. They are after all giving information about abusing a prescribed medication. I've got my syringes and badly built IKEA flat pack rubbish and I shall abuse.

I get prescribed 240mg codeine daily. I don't take it daily. If I took full dose I'd be in la la land feeling dizzy and shit. I don't like the stuff.
However if I did and started explaining to people that it's much better to snort it (for example!) I'd soon be banned.

So, OP isn't wrong. Those of us doing it have made our choices and don't see it as wrong.

It's a very fine line I think that's being drawn.

Many thanks- never had that issue so I'll just carry on as I am unless I do. I appreciate the advice though.

@surreygirl1987 and @Youbutterbelieve sometimes that hard twist (which breaks the locking mechanism) actually breaks the whole internal mechanism and the plunger doesn’t work, so you can’t inject as normal. Hence using a syringe. Which you can then just continue with next time, rather than bother trying to hard twist the pen.

We just turn it really hard too. Not sure anything snaps exactly, but a 'hard twist' enables us to use a fifth dose.

Or on Site Stuff

@Youbutterbelieve

I use a separate insulin syringe and draw off the required amount.

Yes you can. I do. Using an extra needle sent to me by the same pharmacist, with the pen. I take the full extra dose, within the expiry timeframe. There is absolutely no risk.

I agree with you thay there's lots of dangerous information being spread and practised, but this is not an example of that.

I had to jump through hoops to get my first pen and that was before the prescribing changes. i was very clearly over weight, BMI high 30's, but it took many photos and a direct conversation with them for them to accept me and prescribe. It needs better regulation on who can sell it, but people will go to dodgy websites and back street salons for anything. Thats not the fault of the medication, or the regulations on prescribing, its that people are dumb and the "black market" appeals to that dumbness.

Blimey, I hope you aren't being sarcastic because your reply would be a first for me 😂

It's true though. The injury odds of injection v's flat pack.
I should know!

I spoke to my Dr about people doing this and she said fair play, it is exactly the same stuff that you are injecting just gives you an extra weeks dose and saves on medication and money.

It is not misuse unless you are withdrawing the last dose and selling it someone else, the prescription is yours!

I think you are being a big girl’s blouse. HTH.

I've definitely seen some - but I'm a night owl usually so the dodgy posts that pop up then quite often are VERY dodgy 😂

I've not actually ever visited Sporner's Corner! I also deliberately stay away from the WLI board now because I found myself feeling incredibly irritated with the lack of transparency from those banging on about sharing their codes. In fairness, this was quite a while ago and I've not been back.

It's really difficult to discuss this subject without sounding like I'm being critical of WLI or the people that take them, and that's not my intention at all. I just wish the prescribing was handled differently - that's my main gripe really.

I personally wouldnt as it not accurate, i tried it, it didnt click as cleanly as the previous doses, you cant guarentee you arent giving more or less of the medication, therefore i used an insulin syringe to ensure its exactly 0.6ml.

Why? We just turn the pen really really really hard until it snaps the capper.