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To think MNHQ should delete all chat about ‘the golden/bonus dose’ for those on WLI?

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istrich · 01/05/2025 16:03

I use the weight loss forums quite a lot and with the arrival of WLI they are busier than ever. But, it’s worrying the amount of people who are misusing their prescription and discussing with others how to do so. Should MNHQ take action here?

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AugustMounjaroTeam · 29/05/2025 12:00

xFatherDickByrnex · 28/05/2025 18:18

I save my pens. Every few months I have enough for 1 month at the recommended dose. 😎

But why wouldn't you just use up the fifth dose before starting the next pen?

Fyreheart · 29/05/2025 10:49

xFatherDickByrnex · 28/05/2025 18:18

I save my pens. Every few months I have enough for 1 month at the recommended dose. 😎

Pens are only good for 30 days according to the manufacturers?

  • how long are you holding on to them for?
xFatherDickByrnex · 28/05/2025 18:18

I save my pens. Every few months I have enough for 1 month at the recommended dose. 😎

DubLass · 28/05/2025 17:08

More fool you throwing away money like that !!!!

Fyreheart · 28/05/2025 17:02

istrich · 01/05/2025 16:40

Right, but not everyone is as able as you or I. I saw a poster once ask where you put the needle in to get the liquid out and it baffled me that after following instructions 4 times to use her pen that she didn’t cotton on she was putting a needle in to the pen and that’s how it came out. If she know she would have know where to put the needle for the extra. People who have less understanding are more likely to get it wrong.

So because some people cannot follow instructions, the rest of us should pay more.

Why do you care, why is it so important to you?

AugustMounjaroTeam · 28/05/2025 16:37

whatcanthematterbe81 · 27/05/2025 20:53

@AugustMounjaroTeamcan I ask a question about this (sorry to derail an old thread) if I’m going to to 5 soon, how many ml would I need of 2.5 to get the same as 5. Is it double? I know I sound stupid here but I genuinely am 😂

You have a 2.5 dose pen, but want to double dose? - 1.2ml via a syringe to do a 5mg dose. Expensive way of doing it, though.

0.6ml (60 clicks) is the full dose of whatever strength pen you have.

RinkyDinkDrink · 28/05/2025 01:25

Gustavo77 · 27/05/2025 23:24

I agree 100%. It should not be condoned in any way, it's not how the drug is manufactured or prescribed so it should not be publicised or encouraged.

They’re not condoning something by allowing the discussion.

Gustavo77 · 27/05/2025 23:24

I agree 100%. It should not be condoned in any way, it's not how the drug is manufactured or prescribed so it should not be publicised or encouraged.

whatcanthematterbe81 · 27/05/2025 20:53

@AugustMounjaroTeamcan I ask a question about this (sorry to derail an old thread) if I’m going to to 5 soon, how many ml would I need of 2.5 to get the same as 5. Is it double? I know I sound stupid here but I genuinely am 😂

istrich · 02/05/2025 15:01

AlmostSummer25 · 02/05/2025 12:45

Well, you didn't engage with my post, just a snappy one line reply.

I'm glad you've realised how ridiculous and unreasonable you were being

The situation wasn’t comparable that’s why I didn’t get into a discussion.

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AlmostSummer25 · 02/05/2025 12:45

istrich · 02/05/2025 09:52

I did engage in conversation. I also said ages ago I agree IWBU, I also repeated it multiple times. Perhaps you are the one not ‘engaging’

Well, you didn't engage with my post, just a snappy one line reply.

I'm glad you've realised how ridiculous and unreasonable you were being

AlmostSummer25 · 02/05/2025 12:43

GustyBaloo · 02/05/2025 09:00

Have you tried reading the full thread?

Sometimes it can stop you looking a bit daft.

Don't stop on my account though.

What??

yes I've read the thread, I was replying to the post I quoted.

you've only made yourself look daft!

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 02/05/2025 12:16

istrich · 02/05/2025 09:58

I’m actually really pleased with how this thread went

I agree. It's been very informative.

In many ways.....
🤣

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 02/05/2025 12:15

istrich · 02/05/2025 09:56

Thank you. This is the advice I’m going to follow.

thanks to everyone for explaining, even the ones who were slating me for just not having the knowledge or understanding initially. I got there and who knows, maybe I will be ordering insulin needles soon!!

Thank you for your posts saying you were BU.
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istrich · 02/05/2025 09:58

soupforbrains · 02/05/2025 09:49

The irony that this post has effectively become the most comprehensive guide on how to take the golden doses I’ve yet seen on Mumsnet has really made my day. 🤣🤣

I’m actually really pleased with how this thread went

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GustyBaloo · 02/05/2025 09:58

soupforbrains · 02/05/2025 09:49

The irony that this post has effectively become the most comprehensive guide on how to take the golden doses I’ve yet seen on Mumsnet has really made my day. 🤣🤣

It hasn't though.

Some people are claiming they use their pen. Some are saying hard twist. Some are saying needles.

There's very little if any info how to use the needle, how to withdraw the excess, the amount to withdraw or where to get to get needles from.

There are TONS of other threads giving that info.

The info on here is all a garbled if not incorrect.

istrich · 02/05/2025 09:56

OuchyEars · 02/05/2025 09:23

Props to you OP for your posts since your op.

There are going to be a lot of posters coming in with a reaction having only read the first post. There's no harm in making a final post and then ignoring if you can.
You've taken a lot of flak and held yourself well imo. Good luck.

Thank you. This is the advice I’m going to follow.

thanks to everyone for explaining, even the ones who were slating me for just not having the knowledge or understanding initially. I got there and who knows, maybe I will be ordering insulin needles soon!!

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istrich · 02/05/2025 09:54

Smallsalt · 02/05/2025 00:41

Nah....it's shit stirring

I’m wasn’t trying to shit stir I just posted a question for discussion, realised I was U, acknowledged it and that’s it. Sometimes people say things you don’t agree with and that doesn’t mean they are shit stirring. My OP came from a place of ignorance and I have learned a lot. But o absolutely didn’t oust to shit stir.

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istrich · 02/05/2025 09:52

AlmostSummer25 · 02/05/2025 08:38

Look, if you can even be bothered to engage in conversation, why did you even start the thread?

I suggest you go and mind your own business and stay out of other peoples

I did engage in conversation. I also said ages ago I agree IWBU, I also repeated it multiple times. Perhaps you are the one not ‘engaging’

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soupforbrains · 02/05/2025 09:50

SilenceInside · 02/05/2025 09:25

@soupforbrains "It’s 30 day life span is once you remove it from the fridge."

That's not quite right. The 30 days is counted either from when you first use the pen or when it is removed from the fridge and is no longer kept between 2 and 8 degrees C.

You can see that explained in the patient instruction leaflet, screenshot attached.

Either way the bonuses dose takes place on day 29 so it’s irrelevant.

soupforbrains · 02/05/2025 09:49

The irony that this post has effectively become the most comprehensive guide on how to take the golden doses I’ve yet seen on Mumsnet has really made my day. 🤣🤣

WorriedRelative · 02/05/2025 09:44

CopperWhite · 01/05/2025 17:08

People are already ordering this stuff off the internet so they must be comfortable with the risk associated with that. I can’t see why it makes any difference except to the people who are charging for it.

The overwhelming majority of those posting on MN about WLI are buying them on private prescription from legitimate GPhC registered Pharmacies. Some of those are online only, others are both online and physical shops, a few are in shop only.

All follow the same prescribing guidelines and regulations as any other private prescriber.

The NHS criteria is stricter for cost saving/resource reasons.

Just because the medication is prescribed online doesn't mean it is more risky. Indeed my NHS GP will prescribe various medicines following an online consultation.

SilenceInside · 02/05/2025 09:25

@soupforbrains "It’s 30 day life span is once you remove it from the fridge."

That's not quite right. The 30 days is counted either from when you first use the pen or when it is removed from the fridge and is no longer kept between 2 and 8 degrees C.

You can see that explained in the patient instruction leaflet, screenshot attached.

To think MNHQ should delete all chat about ‘the golden/bonus dose’ for those on WLI?
OuchyEars · 02/05/2025 09:23

Props to you OP for your posts since your op.

There are going to be a lot of posters coming in with a reaction having only read the first post. There's no harm in making a final post and then ignoring if you can.
You've taken a lot of flak and held yourself well imo. Good luck.

soupforbrains · 02/05/2025 09:18

Crikeyalmighty · 01/05/2025 17:06

I am taking at the moment - I am very unsure if it is fully in date to be honest if doing this as whilst the in date on the outside of the box is quite a few months , once you have pierced and used isn’t it meant to be used up within 30 days? and to be fair I can’t be arsed with the faff , so haven’t done it .

It’s not about once you’ve pierced it. The medicine keeps for months so long as you keep it in the fridge. It’s 30 day life span is once you remove it from the fridge. Most people prefer to keep it out of the fridge once they start the course because they find the cold injections uncomfortable.

additionally even if you remove it from the fridge at the time of your first dose on day 1, the rest of your injections would be on day 8, day 15 and day 22, meaning that you would take the bonus/golden dose on day 29, so still within the 30 day window.

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