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Thegirlinthegreenscarf · 30/04/2025 23:53

Way back early 2022 my colleague said that she got diagnosed with stage 4 Glioblastoma brain cancer. Of course we all naturally felt so sorry for her and since have done everything we can to make sure that her life is easier. She has a husband and two young children. In 2024 my colleague said that she had surgery which removed most of the tumour but she was still terminally unwell.

The thing that's at the back of my mind is that she's never changed in appearance never looks unwell. Still puts in all the work hours etc.

Am I being unreasonable to think she's maybe playing us all?

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Planesmistakenforstars · 01/05/2025 11:33

Listen to the podcast "Scamanda," which essentially about a woman who faked cancer, and did it very publicly.

I knew/know a guy who faked cancer, and then miraculously "recovered." But he also faked having a job on an F1 team, faked his father dying, and managed to have two families hidden from each other. And people would believe each one of his lies. Baffling.

Profhilodisaster · 01/05/2025 11:25

Floatlikeafeather2 · 01/05/2025 11:20

Brain cancer isn't really like having cancer anywhere else in your body, simply because of where it is. It's affecting your central control system in effect, and it's very unlikely that it could be covered up. My Dad had a glioblastoma which presented with stroke like symptoms for a day or two, progressed to making him appear as if he was in the throes of advanced dementia and for the final 3 weeks he was in a coma. From diagnosis to his death was just under 9 weeks. He was, apparently, fairly text book.

Same path as my lovely dad , it was horrific, he lost his sight and then his speech became unintelligible, then lost mobility. He had fish and chips for lunch and went to bed that night, we couldn't wake him in the morning. My sister and I sat with him, listening to the awful breathing for days and then he just stopped.

Floatlikeafeather2 · 01/05/2025 11:20

Coastingtohell25 · 01/05/2025 00:39

my best friend died last year after a 8 year battle of incurable cancer - for the first 7 year despite losing a kidney having constant bone cancer and being on diff treatments you woukd never have known from the outside until the last 6 months. She ran her business full time, was a single mum and travelled the world

Brain cancer isn't really like having cancer anywhere else in your body, simply because of where it is. It's affecting your central control system in effect, and it's very unlikely that it could be covered up. My Dad had a glioblastoma which presented with stroke like symptoms for a day or two, progressed to making him appear as if he was in the throes of advanced dementia and for the final 3 weeks he was in a coma. From diagnosis to his death was just under 9 weeks. He was, apparently, fairly text book.

WearyAuldWumman · 01/05/2025 11:18

TheKeeperOfTissues · 01/05/2025 07:57

I know someone who lied about cancer. Shaved her own head. Faked hospital appts, had friends running round after them at the detriment to their own families.

They also faked mental illness in their children, poor health in parents and a huge list of ailments for themselves.
Oh, and domestic violence because they'd been dumped.

Some people love a drama, some have munchausens (?) and some are genuinely ill.

I would distance myself from anyone who I thought was bullshitting after my previous experience with a person like this.

I mentioned a relative through marriage above.

My husband went round to her house to drop off Christmas presents for the kids. Heard her running down the stairs to answer the door.

As soon as she opened the door and saw DH, she twisted her mouth, dropped her arm etc in imitation of stroke symptoms. DH refused ever to see her again.

WearyAuldWumman · 01/05/2025 11:13

Muffinmam · 01/05/2025 03:03

My cousin had brain surgery and was left with a shaved head and a massive scar. I think his was benign. Many people in our family have died from cancer but I understand his particular cancer wasn’t malignant and it required no chemo and never came back.

I have another cousin that had a type of leukaemia that you don’t have chemo for immediately. You just monitor it and it can resolve on its own. But it still meant she couldn’t have any more children but she was stable and required no chemo unless it got worse. Fast forward a few years and she’s telling people it’s full blown cancer and she requires chemo. But she never said what specific type of cancer (if anyone has had cancer or knows someone who had it’s a very specific type with a specific sub-type) and while she had specialist appointments she could never say it was with an oncologist or a haematologist. She said she had chemo but couldn’t tell anyone the type of drugs (chemo isn’t always IV either - but she insisted she was “going to chemo” appointments).

Eventually she said it was cured by a man she met at a resort who had the cure for cancer. In conclusion she was full of shit.

Another cousin had chemo drugs to treat a medical condition that was putting her into organ failure and everything else had failed (this was a last attempt to save her life - she was dying). She was so unwell and could name specialists and specific hospitals. She got better and looked so much better and it was clear she received treatment. She didn’t lose her hair but you don’t always lose your hair.

I’m suspicious of your friend too.

One of my mum's carers was the sister of a former pupil of mine.

I was heartbroken to be told that the fp had terminal cancer. Then I became uneasy at the way the conversation was going.

Said carer - we later realised - had been stealing from Mum and had conned an elderly gentleman out of £700 for "a family funeral". (Carer was struck off.)

Two years later, I bumped into my terminally ill fp in hospital. She was visiting her father.

She must have registered the shock on my face - she told me she'd been cured via "Angel Therapy". (The fact that she told me this confirms for me that she was in on the scam.)

MimiGC · 01/05/2025 11:12

Many years ago I worked with a colleague who faked having a brain tumour. When he returned to work after what he claimed was brain surgery, it was immediately obvious he was lying. Nobody knew what to say to him. Management dealt with it promptly and he was never seen at work again.

driedgrasses · 01/05/2025 11:08

I knew a young woman who lied about having a brain tumour. She seemed quite a troubled person in hindsight.

SerafinasGoose · 01/05/2025 11:03

Fraaances · 01/05/2025 01:41

Only about 5% of patients diagnosed with Glioblastoma are around five years later, and I am certain those have had treatment. Stage 4 means that it’s metastasized. She probably would have had immunotherapy or chemotherapy after radiation treatments. She would normally have a prognosis of about 18m with glioblastoma. Less with stage 4. I’m very suspicious about this.

My beloved mum and aunt both died of this unspeakably horrible condition.

My aunt lasted for eighteen months. My mother, five weeks.

TakeMeDancing · 01/05/2025 10:56

One of my former uni housemates faked that she was getting dialysis and said that she was going to get a kidney transplant.

She also lied about having a twin that died.

honeylulu · 01/05/2025 10:53

I was going to ask if her name was Belle Gibson but I can see that's already been mentioned!

There's a small chance she is telling the truth but I would be feeling wary.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 01/05/2025 10:51

@MuddlingThroughLife

I’m so sorry for your loss. It must have been torture watching and caring through this. 🕊

Phunkychicken · 01/05/2025 10:45

MIL had a glioblastoma ('luckily' she had a massive stroke and died before the cancer had fully got her) but not only had her surgery scar but then was on whacking high doses of steroids to reduce the swelling in the brain - which I believe is standard. She was v obviously on steroids - had the classic face shape and devoured anything in sight - including a v large box of lindt truffles - and was still hunting for more food.

We could tell personality changes due to the tumour but the steroid impact was v evident.

I also worked with someone who faked having stomach cancer - that was awful when he was found out.

BunnyLake · 01/05/2025 10:40

Thegirlinthegreenscarf · 01/05/2025 00:19

@WearyAuldWumman sorry you experienced this. I can't get my head around someone saying this but at the back of my mind something doesn't sit right. Also are your relatives kids ok now? I hope so.

@CountryMumof4 she said that she had 10 days to prepare for the surgery. I don't know what the preparation was in the lead up to surgery, and then 10 days after surgery she was up and about as normal and looking like normal and she said all her symptoms were completely gone and she was back to normal. It's not known about her shaved head because she wore a scarf for a few days but after then it was her normal long hair (could have been a wig maybe?) I honestly truly hope she isn't just saying this because that would be awful.

The ironic thing is, it’s better if she is making it up, better a fantasist than dead.

I would just carry on as normal as, unless you knew one way or the other for a fact, there’s nothing you can, or should, do.

User3452424 · 01/05/2025 10:32

Young, white and female is the highest demographic for faking cancer. It's also possible it wasn't a total lie but exaggerated for attention. Maybe it was another brain condition that required surgery or the same cancer at a lower stage. Many also use symptoms and/or treatment for an autoimmune disease to trick people into thinking they have cancer.

Hoppinggreen · 01/05/2025 10:30

Fleur66 · 01/05/2025 10:04

I think you should be careful about litigation for slander

Not really a thing here
However, when a woman in my community did something similar the few people who did expressed doubts (not me thankfully I was pretty sure she was lying but kept out of it) were not exactly celebrated when in did all come out.

Profhilodisaster · 01/05/2025 10:21

@Dotjones exactly . There are many types of cancer, in this instance it's a shocker , glioblastoma is incurable and fast growing .
Many people are able to carry on showing no outward signs with many cancers but having first hand experience of glioblastoma I would be very surprised if someone wasn't receiving any treatment or showing neurological symptoms.

policeandthebeef · 01/05/2025 10:19

Thegirlinthegreenscarf · 01/05/2025 00:22

No of course I am not but just a quick Google tells me that with this type she would be really poorly.

A quick google shows my cancer you would be very poorly to. And I was / am.

but I look normal.

your point proves nothing and is really fucking offensive.

policeandthebeef · 01/05/2025 10:16

This is difficult.
I was diagnosed with an incurable, terminal cancer at 23. I am now 30, have had a baby since and look normal. I went through vigorous chemos and never lost my hair. I had a surgery that left me in a coma. 2 months later I went to my Christmas party feeling like a million dollars.

there are some people out there who lie and cheat the system.

there are some of us, genuinely poorly, who just want to look and feel amazing while we can.
please don't judge us and make us feel like we have to look a certain way. Because we absolutely don't.

BellaVita · 01/05/2025 10:13

sHREDDIES19 · 01/05/2025 10:09

I have painful second hand experience of this type of brain tumour and it is the worst. It's incurable and even with surgery it grows back. Your colleague will most definitely need to be on a range of meds including steroids which impact a person's physical appearance as well as other side effects. I would imagine based on what you have described it is highly unlikely they have this type of tumour.

Agree re steriods. My son now has too much cortisol in his body because of the steriods which causes the moon face and weight gain. It has also affected his joints/muscles.

EmmaJane2025 · 01/05/2025 10:12

Ps, I’m of course, not suggesting you go to the ends of the earth to help her like you would with a best friend or family member, at the cost of your own health and family. Just be kind, supportive and respectful until or unless you find out for a fact that she’s lying, and I do mean fact. Confirmation bias can be a factor in situations like this. If you’re looking for evidence that she’s lying, you can end up finding it when it’s not really there.

For example (this is not quite the same but an example of confirmation bias in action), an old neighbour of mine was convinced that I don’t actually have Parkinson’s and that I’m lying (apparently because I’m not old and I’m not always in my wheelchair!). One day, she saw me coming out of the local David Lloyd gym and decided that was proof enough and reported me to PIP! I got a phone call from Compliance and had to explain to them that the gym is where my DD’s nursery was! This was accepted and no action taken but it shows that when you’re looking for reasons to disbelieve someone, you can find it where it doesn’t exist, so be careful! Yes it def sounds fishy, I agree but until you have facts, don’t change your attitude towards her.

sHREDDIES19 · 01/05/2025 10:09

I have painful second hand experience of this type of brain tumour and it is the worst. It's incurable and even with surgery it grows back. Your colleague will most definitely need to be on a range of meds including steroids which impact a person's physical appearance as well as other side effects. I would imagine based on what you have described it is highly unlikely they have this type of tumour.

StormInaDcup99 · 01/05/2025 10:07

However OP....I would still be supportive as we really don't know how diseases can affect individuals

StormInaDcup99 · 01/05/2025 10:06

My husband died of glioblastoma multiforme

It's a horrible devastating disease. He lost his hair in one strip on his head and was badly affected by the disease. Lived for 4 years after his diagnosis at age 36

It's a brutal awful disease and fair play to your colleague if her life is as normal as it appears to be! 🤔

I know three other guys who had it too. They were equally badly affected but in diff ways

Fleur66 · 01/05/2025 10:04

I think you should be careful about litigation for slander

Lollylolo · 01/05/2025 10:03

Belle Gibson anyone? People can and do lie about awful things like this.

Very sorry to everyone who has had a loss through cancer. Just awful.

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