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Thegirlinthegreenscarf · 30/04/2025 23:53

Way back early 2022 my colleague said that she got diagnosed with stage 4 Glioblastoma brain cancer. Of course we all naturally felt so sorry for her and since have done everything we can to make sure that her life is easier. She has a husband and two young children. In 2024 my colleague said that she had surgery which removed most of the tumour but she was still terminally unwell.

The thing that's at the back of my mind is that she's never changed in appearance never looks unwell. Still puts in all the work hours etc.

Am I being unreasonable to think she's maybe playing us all?

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CountryMumof4 · 01/05/2025 00:42

Thegirlinthegreenscarf · 01/05/2025 00:35

@CountryMumof4 that's the thing she does go on about it and makes everyone aware of it all the time. She's even been in the local rag because of it. So sorry to read about your miscarriages Flowers I hope you are ok.

Ahh ok. Does she have much time off for appointments etc ? It's the sort of thing that needs regular monitoring.

That's kind of you, thank you. I count myself lucky that I've got my four boys. I know I'm very fortunate in the grand scheme of things.

Thegirlinthegreenscarf · 01/05/2025 00:41

@Idoubtitwillchangemuch don't want to be outing but let's say we are freelance.

@SamDeanCas sorry to read about your colleague that's really sad. I thought the same stage 4, especially brain cancer was maybe a year or two max after diagnosis. I don't know maybe I am over thinking after watching apple cider vinegar on Netflix. She said that she had the operation then 9 days later she was fit as a fiddle and no symptoms as surgery had removed them all (obviously I am paraphrasing here)

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ClairDeLaLune · 01/05/2025 00:41

Friend had this and was dead after a year. BUT, and it’s a big BUT, he was told the outcomes are very different. Yes it’s terminal but most of it can be got rid of with treatment, then it’s a case of when it will come back, and it can be months or years. Up to 10 years I think. He didn’t appear unwell either until towards the end.

Tread very carefully OP. You will come across as really awful if you voice these doubts to anyone. Try to support your colleague as much as you can. Ultimately it’s a dreadful illness.

WearyAuldWumman · 01/05/2025 00:40

Yes, the kids are adults and have done well.

The elder child stopped having 'accidents' when the younger came along...There's no doubt that - like many members of our family - the younger child is genuinely on the spectrum, but high functioning. (He taught himself to play chess while still at primary school.) Like his dad, he's 'quiet' . However, I don't want to put anything too outing here, but she somehow got him on video behaving in a way that no one in the family had ever seen before - or since. That got an additional diagnosis of Tourette's.

At one point, the child featured on local television, having his 'first' birthday party, paid for by a charity...because - according to his mother - no one would go to his parties. This somewhat bemused the family members who had attended his previous parties (where there was no evidence of Tourette's).

Lord help us, it wasn't until the local news feature happened that we finally figured that something was amiss.

She got free holidays for the family from various charities as well.

The mother managed to persuade the local LA into placing him into what was then called The Special Education Unit of the local secondary school in spite of the school's insistence that he should be in mainstream. The other children in the SEU were non-verbal. This was not the case for my relative's child.

In the end, the mother agreed that the child could be integrated into some mainstream classes. The school gradually placed him in mainstream for everything. He did well, got a good college qualification and a good job. A few years ago, he paid cash for his own house.

The mother actually did die in middle age - but not from any of the illnesses that she claimed. There's suspicion in the family that she took the wrong combination of tablets at some point. The toxicology report was inconclusive.

i realise that I sound barmy saying all this, but you had to be there. Her 'stroke' symptoms appeared after she saw my dad's genuine stroke symptoms.

She told all her neighbours that her SIL was shunning her because of her 'brain tumour'. Her hair didn't fall out - it was clearly shaved. She'd wear a wig on top of the shaved head and then ostentatiously say at family gatherings "Is it all right with everyone if I take my wig off?"

At one point, she claimed that she was teetotal because of kidney failure...and then would have a night on the booze with her pals.

Whenever her husband got a job, he'd get a phone call to say that his wife had become ill and needed to go to hospital...He finished up on benefits as a result.

As I said, you had to see it all before you realised what was going on.

Coastingtohell25 · 01/05/2025 00:39

my best friend died last year after a 8 year battle of incurable cancer - for the first 7 year despite losing a kidney having constant bone cancer and being on diff treatments you woukd never have known from the outside until the last 6 months. She ran her business full time, was a single mum and travelled the world

Thegirlinthegreenscarf · 01/05/2025 00:35

@CountryMumof4 that's the thing she does go on about it and makes everyone aware of it all the time. She's even been in the local rag because of it. So sorry to read about your miscarriages Flowers I hope you are ok.

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SamDeanCas · 01/05/2025 00:34

I work with someone who had a terminal cancer diagnosis about 6 years ago. He has to take regular time off work for hospital appointments and is now looking very ill. It’s quite obvious that he will die of the illness. I always thought stage 4 was terminal, and any operation in the brain would need serious time off work.

Thegirlinthegreenscarf · 01/05/2025 00:29

@Idoubtitwillchangemuch so sorry to read about your work friend that's really sad for his family and friends. My colleague has said that she has had radio and chemotherapy along with the surgery. If I am wrong then of maybe she is putting on a brave face and getting on with things. The thing is I don't know and obviously would never outright ask her.

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CountryMumof4 · 01/05/2025 00:28

Thegirlinthegreenscarf · 01/05/2025 00:19

@WearyAuldWumman sorry you experienced this. I can't get my head around someone saying this but at the back of my mind something doesn't sit right. Also are your relatives kids ok now? I hope so.

@CountryMumof4 she said that she had 10 days to prepare for the surgery. I don't know what the preparation was in the lead up to surgery, and then 10 days after surgery she was up and about as normal and looking like normal and she said all her symptoms were completely gone and she was back to normal. It's not known about her shaved head because she wore a scarf for a few days but after then it was her normal long hair (could have been a wig maybe?) I honestly truly hope she isn't just saying this because that would be awful.

I think you'll have to give her the benefit of the doubt tbh. As @XenoBitch has said, sometimes people just want to get on with it. From what I've seen, those faking severe illnesses tend to go on and on about them and fake symptoms etc. it doesn't sound like this is the case with your colleague.

Not the same thing at all, but I've worked through two of my miscarriages. My colleagues would likely have had no idea anything was wrong as I masked it and just cracked on, despite breaking inside. They only knew I'd had those ones after being hospitalised with another - I was in hospital a few days and then needed a bit more recovery time. They knew it wasn't like me to be off long and questioned it, so I was honest.

Idoubtitwillchangemuch · 01/05/2025 00:22

I had a colleague at work with a brain tumour who had a period when, after an op, he was back working and to all intents and purposes appeared normal, although I am sure it was tough for him.

I don’t know what sort of brain cancer it was but he had some immunotherapy I think which gave him four and a half extra years with his wife and dc, and once that stopped working, very sadly, he went downhill and died pretty quickly.

Edited: wouldn’t your colleague have had to provide your workplace with documentation proving she needed time off op?

Thegirlinthegreenscarf · 01/05/2025 00:22

XenoBitch · 01/05/2025 00:14

I have had colleagues with various cancers, and most of them have tried to give the impression that nothing is wrong. That is their coping mechanism.

You are not owed someone displaying symptoms to prove they are ill.

No of course I am not but just a quick Google tells me that with this type she would be really poorly.

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Thegirlinthegreenscarf · 01/05/2025 00:19

@WearyAuldWumman sorry you experienced this. I can't get my head around someone saying this but at the back of my mind something doesn't sit right. Also are your relatives kids ok now? I hope so.

@CountryMumof4 she said that she had 10 days to prepare for the surgery. I don't know what the preparation was in the lead up to surgery, and then 10 days after surgery she was up and about as normal and looking like normal and she said all her symptoms were completely gone and she was back to normal. It's not known about her shaved head because she wore a scarf for a few days but after then it was her normal long hair (could have been a wig maybe?) I honestly truly hope she isn't just saying this because that would be awful.

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XenoBitch · 01/05/2025 00:14

I have had colleagues with various cancers, and most of them have tried to give the impression that nothing is wrong. That is their coping mechanism.

You are not owed someone displaying symptoms to prove they are ill.

WearyAuldWumman · 01/05/2025 00:09

I had a relative through marriage who faked a brain tumour - she shaved off her hair, I kid you not. She'd previously faked a stroke.

It used to be her children who kept having 'accidents' or who became unwell. Once they became older, it was the relative through marriage who had various ailments.

So - yes...It's possible that the colleague is faking.

CountryMumof4 · 01/05/2025 00:04

That's a tricky one. The cancer she told you about in 2022 is very aggressive, with a low survival rate. Did she take any time off work at all during that period? I think it's something as low as 5-10% of patients survive 5 years with it, with most only surviving a year or so. If she had surgery, you'd have assumed she had had time off for that and then had at least a partially shaved head (could be covered of course). It is feasible that she's been lucky that the treatment has helped etc.

I like to think that no-one would make up something so awful, but I guess you can't know for sure.