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Is a size 14 big?

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fattytoadboy · 30/04/2025 22:58

Just that really. Been somewhere between a size 12-14 for the past 20 years. Even when I lost two stone I still fit into my size 12 clothes. Now I’m about 12 stone at 5,7 and a solid 14.

I definitely feel better around the 10.5 stone mark. I’m really struggling to lose weight. Sometimes I look at myself and can see a roll around my belly or feel like my face looks bloated and neither of these things make me happy or confident.

Equally when I’m dressed well I think I look ok. I know it’s totally subjective but in your opinion is a size 14 what you’d consider large? I don’t think I look obscenely overweight but I definitely would look and feel better with a few stone off.

OP posts:
iwentjasonwaterfalls · 01/05/2025 17:39

Anyway, I addressed my comment to the teeny tiny competitive undereating MN waifs. If you do not identify as a teeny tiny competitive undereating MN waif, it was not addressed to you and therefore you can chill.

If you do identify as a teeny tiny competitive undereating MN waif, I said what I said.

iwentjasonwaterfalls · 01/05/2025 17:35

policeandthebeef · 01/05/2025 17:29

I mean you just had to get it in there on the 3rd or 4th post down though didn't you? When there wasn't a single sign of anybody competitively under eating on this thread.

imagine if somebody wrote a thread and the first person replied saying 'nooo, you're a healthy weight OP but the fat tanks will be along soon to tell you how underweight you are!'

it's tasteless.

Have you seen the thread about why do people overfeed their kids? The first few posts in that aren't far off.

The fat tanks don't tend to compete about how much they overeat. That's the difference. I don't care what size someone is, but when it becomes their entire personality trait, it's a problem that they need to seek help for.

policeandthebeef · 01/05/2025 17:29

iwentjasonwaterfalls · 01/05/2025 17:27

Re-read my first post. I wasn't "skinny shaming", it was specifically aimed at the competitive under-eaters of mumsnet who spend their time either judging what others eat or talking about how they're so teeny tiny and only eat sparrow portions and try to outdo each other. Almond mom stuff. It's the stuff I used to seek out on pro-ana forums as a teen and that's why I call it out.

I don't care what size they are; the posts are annoying and unhealthy and those are the posters I'm mocking.

I mean you just had to get it in there on the 3rd or 4th post down though didn't you? When there wasn't a single sign of anybody competitively under eating on this thread.

imagine if somebody wrote a thread and the first person replied saying 'nooo, you're a healthy weight OP but the fat tanks will be along soon to tell you how underweight you are!'

it's tasteless.

iwentjasonwaterfalls · 01/05/2025 17:27

policeandthebeef · 01/05/2025 17:22

Yes it has struck a nerve with me. Slim / skinny women get weight shamed and mocked all the time, but the second it's fired back to a fat person it's a crime against humanity.
Skinny shaming is okay though because apparently it's the ideal compared to being fat or obese. Evidently not on this thread though!
skinny shaming is fucking offensive and it does hit a nerve.

Re-read my first post. I wasn't "skinny shaming", it was specifically aimed at the competitive under-eaters of mumsnet who spend their time either judging what others eat or talking about how they're so teeny tiny and only eat sparrow portions and try to outdo each other. Almond mom stuff. It's the stuff I used to seek out on pro-ana forums as a teen and that's why I call it out.

I don't care what size they are; the posts are annoying and unhealthy and those are the posters I'm mocking.

policeandthebeef · 01/05/2025 17:22

iwentjasonwaterfalls · 01/05/2025 17:05

a) it's standard for mumsnet weight threads so 🤷‍♀️ and b) genuinely, I hope you're ok as this is clearly something that has struck a nerve with you.

Yes it has struck a nerve with me. Slim / skinny women get weight shamed and mocked all the time, but the second it's fired back to a fat person it's a crime against humanity.
Skinny shaming is okay though because apparently it's the ideal compared to being fat or obese. Evidently not on this thread though!
skinny shaming is fucking offensive and it does hit a nerve.

evilharpy · 01/05/2025 17:15

Currently about a 12-14 at 5' 6" and 12st 6lbs. I'm on my way back down from gaining a lot of weight, but I know that my normal weight of about 11st ish, which is top end of a healthy BMI, puts me at a size 10 and often 8 on top (modern vanity sizing). I have lipodema and carry all my weight on my bottom half, and have fairly narrow shoulders and not overly big boobs, so my top half doesn't look big when my bottom half still does. Like a PP said, you wouldn't look at me on a Teams call and think I was fat.

I'm a lot smaller than I was a few months ago but I definitely still feel bigger than I would like to be, and am much happier at least a stone lighter than I am now and preferably a stone and a half.

I have a friend who is 5' 10" and has always been a healthy weight for her height. Not sure what size she wears now but she used to wear a 14 in the early 2000s and nobody could ever have called her big.

iwentjasonwaterfalls · 01/05/2025 17:05

policeandthebeef · 01/05/2025 16:37

Seeing as we're stooping to a low level, 'look at you, you beluga whale! Use teeny tiny fairies as you put it need to be careful around you as you'd knock is over.'

how does that make you feel?

a) it's standard for mumsnet weight threads so 🤷‍♀️ and b) genuinely, I hope you're ok as this is clearly something that has struck a nerve with you.

Shizzlestix · 01/05/2025 17:04

Some bruising comments on here. Some pp seem to have a very strict view on this!

I was a size 26, weighed almost 24st, I’m now 12st8 post bypass (on a good day) and a size 14, (5ft8) although a lot of my 14s are getting too big. I’m delighted to be this size, I no longer stand out as the morbidly obese person in the office/supermarket/swimming pool.

If you’re unhappy, look at weight loss options. You can restrict your intake ie portion size as I was forced to do, increase your exercise but you may gain muscle rather than just lose fat so kind of defeats the purpose, or investigate the injections as I might do. Lots of people who’ve had gastric surgery want to lose another stone or two once their weight settles.

Think I’ve lost over 90% of my excess weight, my bmi is still about 27. At my age-mid 50s-my face is showing the loss and I do worry about that. Everyone says I should now maintain. It’s obviously healthier to lose visceral fat, not that you get to choose where it disappears from.

rosemarble · 01/05/2025 16:55

Isometimeswonder · 01/05/2025 15:13

All these numbers are meaningless really.
I am 5'9, 11.5 stone. And I'm a 14. Sometimes a 12.
Other people of my height would be underweight at my weight.
We're all so different.

According to BMI (I know, I know...it's a blunt tool), 9 stone would be just underweight at 5'9"

I really struggle to see how someone nearly 2 1/2 stone heavier ie your weight could be underweight. They may look quite different, but I very much doubt any health professional would be telling an 11.5 stone person at 5'9" they are underweight.

RampantIvy · 01/05/2025 16:53

Gemmawemma9 · 30/04/2025 23:08

It would be unusual to be a U.K. size 14 and have a BMI within the healthy range.

OP, how do you feel? If you feel physically well and are happy with how you look and feel confident, that’s all that matters. Don’t worry about people’s perceptions.

Nonsense.
I'm a 14 with a BMI of 22.

I'm 5'7".

upanddownandupanddown · 01/05/2025 16:53

I’m a size 14, BMI is about 27. I’m 6ft and I think I look fine (having recently lost weight and gone from a size 18 and BMI of about 34).

I know I’m still overweight but for the first time in a very long time I feel comfortable in how I look.

I think if I was shorter I would need to be about a 12 to look okay. I think a lot of it depends on height.

Finallydoingit24 · 01/05/2025 16:50

policeandthebeef · 01/05/2025 16:37

Seeing as we're stooping to a low level, 'look at you, you beluga whale! Use teeny tiny fairies as you put it need to be careful around you as you'd knock is over.'

how does that make you feel?

I mean I can’t speak for the poster you’re replying to but I’d probably just laugh because it makes you look illiterate as it makes no sense.

Finallydoingit24 · 01/05/2025 16:49

Floundering66 · 01/05/2025 16:21

Yes but in standard sizing a 12 is Large and a 14 is XL - so I don't think they would be described as small. I've always thought of 6-10 as small, 12-16 as midsize and 18+ larger sizing.

Huh? Do you mean on vinted? Because if you buy a size Large from most shops who do that size, that is generally not a size 12. I’d say size 12 is medium and for taller women someone wearing size 12 is pretty slim. Midsize is a different term from medium by the way. It’s between straight 8-14 and plus size so normally about a size 16-18.

policeandthebeef · 01/05/2025 16:40

Iceandfire92 · 01/05/2025 16:25

So many obese or very overweight influencers call themselves "midsized".

For sure and it really doesn't help at all. The delusion on this thread is so apparent.

policeandthebeef · 01/05/2025 16:37

iwentjasonwaterfalls · 01/05/2025 16:20

I don't believe I was talking directly to you, but if you feel personally targeted, you may like to consider why that is.

Would it make you feel better if I said "oh my goodness! You are so teeny and so tiny and therefore clearly have more inherent worth as a human being! We giant chunkers would bow at your teeny tiny dainty little fairy feet, if we weren't so busy stuffing our faces!".

Does that make you feel better?

Seeing as we're stooping to a low level, 'look at you, you beluga whale! Use teeny tiny fairies as you put it need to be careful around you as you'd knock is over.'

how does that make you feel?

Iceandfire92 · 01/05/2025 16:25

So many obese or very overweight influencers call themselves "midsized".

TakeMeToTheDarkSideOfTheMoon · 01/05/2025 16:22

Floundering66 · 01/05/2025 16:02

12-14 is midsize. We aren’t big/ huge but we would probably all like to lose a stone or two 😂

Not me. I'm size 14 and when I was a smaller size I looked underweight, I'm 5'10 and look much healthier in size 14

Floundering66 · 01/05/2025 16:21

Finallydoingit24 · 01/05/2025 16:07

Also midsize is someone who is above straight size but not plus size. I wouldn’t use it to describe a size 12 unless they were very short.
Then again there’s someone on tiktok who claims to be a size 14 but easily looks an 18-20 so I guess it depends on which shop the clothes are from as she is apparently wearing size 14 jeans.

Yes but in standard sizing a 12 is Large and a 14 is XL - so I don't think they would be described as small. I've always thought of 6-10 as small, 12-16 as midsize and 18+ larger sizing.

iwentjasonwaterfalls · 01/05/2025 16:20

policeandthebeef · 01/05/2025 10:23

That's really fucking horrible.

and reeks of jealousy.

no I couldn't imagine being a size 14, which is overweight. What's the issue with that?

I don't believe I was talking directly to you, but if you feel personally targeted, you may like to consider why that is.

Would it make you feel better if I said "oh my goodness! You are so teeny and so tiny and therefore clearly have more inherent worth as a human being! We giant chunkers would bow at your teeny tiny dainty little fairy feet, if we weren't so busy stuffing our faces!".

Does that make you feel better?

TakeMeToTheDarkSideOfTheMoon · 01/05/2025 16:19

No not really, it all depends on body type, height etc

I'm tall, I'm size 14, when I was a smaller size I looked underweight.

Floundering66 · 01/05/2025 16:18

Yes completely agree - I didn't say "need to lose", I said "would like to lose" Average UK height for females currently is 5'3" so a size 12-14 for this height would be mid size I would say.

Finallydoingit24 · 01/05/2025 16:07

Also midsize is someone who is above straight size but not plus size. I wouldn’t use it to describe a size 12 unless they were very short.
Then again there’s someone on tiktok who claims to be a size 14 but easily looks an 18-20 so I guess it depends on which shop the clothes are from as she is apparently wearing size 14 jeans.

Finallydoingit24 · 01/05/2025 16:04

Floundering66 · 01/05/2025 16:02

12-14 is midsize. We aren’t big/ huge but we would probably all like to lose a stone or two 😂

Entirely depends on height because at 5’6” and above most size 12s do not need to lose a stone or two and that extends to size 14s at 5’8” and above (and even in the OP’s case if she lost just one stone she’d be a healthy BMI). Whereas someone who is 5’2” and a size 12 might well be quite overweight.

NewMrsF · 01/05/2025 16:04

Depends entirely on your build. I’m 5’8”, at a size 10 I look very underweight (even though I was 12st) but someone with slimmer hips and ribs could look plumper just because their fat ratio is higher. Same with any size.

Floundering66 · 01/05/2025 16:02

12-14 is midsize. We aren’t big/ huge but we would probably all like to lose a stone or two 😂