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AIBU to be annoyed neighbour put spikes on the fence?

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SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 17:28

We’ve lived in this house for nearly 5 years. At first neighbour was very welcoming and friendly. She’s an older lady (late 60s?) who lives on her own. She used to be lovely to our children. The past 3 years though shes just completely changed. She stopped talking to us, actively avoids us and blanks us. If we smile and say hello when we see her she looks down and pretends we aren’t speaking to her. It’s so bizarre. The only thing that has changed is we got a cat. He is an outdoor cat and admittedly probably does go into her garden.

Today she’s been hammering spikes into the fence! No warning or conversation. Infact whenever we go outside she runs into her greenhouse to hide until we go back in! I think this is so passive aggressive and I’m actually upset that she seems to think she can’t even approach us. We’ve always been friendly. She’s never spoken to us about the cat bothering her. I probably wouldn’t be bothered about the spikes if she had told us beforehand or said she had an issue with the cat. DP thinks I should go speak to her and just ask what’s going on but my parents think I should just ignore it. Aibu if I say something?

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PinkTonic · 30/04/2025 18:25

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 18:12

I think people are misinterpreting my post - I am FINE with her putting measures in place I just personally think spikes with absolutely no warning is rude. I wouldn’t ask her to take the spikes down - infact I want to repair the broken relationship! The chat would to ask how long he has been bothering her, is there anything on my end she wants me to do.

I’m not visually seeing my cat shit in her garden and shrugging my shoulders. I’ve seen my cat sitting on our fence and walking along her grass. I don’t know what he’s doing when I can’t see him, which is why I would’ve appreciated her telling me she’s having an issue.

I don’t know who the fence belongs to, I just say shared fence as a blanket term. Her garden is a L shape that curves around the back of ours.

The thing is, most cat owners would just say the cat has a right to roam and shrug their shoulders. It’s obvious that an outdoor cat will be a nuisance to neighbours but how many people actually bother to cat proof their garden before getting one? It’s ridiculous that people can choose to own a pet and not be accountable for the inconvenience and damage it causes.

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 18:24

Sauvin · 30/04/2025 18:20

I don’t think the OPs being unreasonable to wonder why the neighbour has taken the approach she has, rather than speaking to the OP about it.

Thank you, I genuinely don’t have an issue with her taking measures. It’s the way she’s gone about it by blanking me for 3 years.

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Riaanna · 30/04/2025 18:24

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 18:22

I’ve tried, she won’t even look at me when I try interact with her.

Have you approached her directly and apologised for your cat?

TheHerboriste · 30/04/2025 18:23

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 17:39

It’s the fact it’s out of nowhere. She’s never mentioned having an issue with the cat - yes if she said something I wouldn’t tried to prevent it by cat proofing or even keeping him indoors. She’s literally not even given us eye contact for 3 years. I think it’s rude to put spikes on my fence with no warning at all. If she had a conversation with me to say the cat is bothering me can we do something about it of course I would have cooperated!

You said it's going into her garden but you won't keep it indoors, so what would you have done?

She sized you up as an inconsiderate clod and decided to wash her hands of you, and now she is taking steps to protect her plants & birds, and keep cats and catshit out. What's it to you?

Dunnocantthinkofone · 30/04/2025 18:22

It’s best left imo

but……why, if you DP thinks someone should speak to her, does he propose to assign the somewhat uncomfortable discussion to you?
You are not his staff!!

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 18:22

Sweaterbag · 30/04/2025 18:20

Amd yet you've never asked her what's wrong? Because you know full well what's wrong?

I’ve tried, she won’t even look at me when I try interact with her.

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Sauvin · 30/04/2025 18:20

I don’t think the OPs being unreasonable to wonder why the neighbour has taken the approach she has, rather than speaking to the OP about it.

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 18:20

Sweaterbag · 30/04/2025 18:18

You've know for three years things had changed with the neighbour since you got the cat. If that's what you're going to do why haven't you already done ?

She probably thinks there's little point speaking to neighbours who will knowingly let their cat roam and mess in her garden. I mean, come on, of course you knew.

Well she loved the cat at first, she even helped me find him when he ran out as a kitten. I’ve tried for the past 3 years to speak to her but she won’t even look at me. I didn’t know there was a problem because she hasn’t told me.

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UndermyShoeJoe · 30/04/2025 18:20

I mean if she’s a little old lady living alone? she probably doesn’t want any drama by confronting you about your shitting cat. You only have to see some threads on here where people think pets are better and more welcome then children. So an adult child? Or friend has put spikes up for her.

Sweaterbag · 30/04/2025 18:20

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 18:16

Did you miss the part of my post where I said I smile at her, say hello, and try interact but she completely and utterly pretends I don’t exist? There’s been plenty of opportunities

Amd yet you've never asked her what's wrong? Because you know full well what's wrong?

nomoretreats · 30/04/2025 18:20

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 17:39

It’s the fact it’s out of nowhere. She’s never mentioned having an issue with the cat - yes if she said something I wouldn’t tried to prevent it by cat proofing or even keeping him indoors. She’s literally not even given us eye contact for 3 years. I think it’s rude to put spikes on my fence with no warning at all. If she had a conversation with me to say the cat is bothering me can we do something about it of course I would have cooperated!

Did you talk to her before you got an outdoor cat?

lifeonmars100 · 30/04/2025 18:19

It will be the cat using her garden as a toilet, I like cats but there used to be one that used my back yard to shit in and it was vile, sitting there relaxing and suddenly you catch a foul whiff. Cleaning it up used to make me gag

MyNameIsX · 30/04/2025 18:19

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 17:43

Alright fair enough, personally I would have warned my neighbour before putting SPIKES onto a shared fence but clearly I’m in the minority 🤷🏼‍♀️

I’m afraid you are in the wrong here, sorry.

Sweaterbag · 30/04/2025 18:18

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 18:13

Well that’s what I was proposing to do but people seem to be outraged at that 😅

You've know for three years things had changed with the neighbour since you got the cat. If that's what you're going to do why haven't you already done ?

She probably thinks there's little point speaking to neighbours who will knowingly let their cat roam and mess in her garden. I mean, come on, of course you knew.

whitewineandsun · 30/04/2025 18:16

Nah, YABU. She doesn't want your cat shitting all over her garden. I wouldn't want that, either.

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 18:16

Sweaterbag · 30/04/2025 18:15

You're being disingenuous. You know the cat is going in her garden and of course you know what it's doing whilst there.

You apparently want a conversation to repair the broken relationship, but you haven't initiated one in three years?

Did you give her warning you were going to let a cat use her garden as a toilet? Was that rude?

Did you miss the part of my post where I said I smile at her, say hello, and try interact but she completely and utterly pretends I don’t exist? There’s been plenty of opportunities

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LadyHexham · 30/04/2025 18:16

Did you train your cat to use a litter tray, on your property?

Sauvin · 30/04/2025 18:16

People don’t like confrontation and as she’s an older lady on her own, she was probably mortally afraid of bringing it up in case you reacted badly. Not particularly rational but also not uncommon.

Sockmate123 · 30/04/2025 18:15

Not everyone likes cats. In fact a lot of people dislike them and virtually everyone even cat lovers would hate them pooing in their garden.

I would much rather spikes on my fence than a cat pooing in my garden. She might take a lot of pride in her garden. I feel really sorry for her.

nomas · 30/04/2025 18:15

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 17:43

Alright fair enough, personally I would have warned my neighbour before putting SPIKES onto a shared fence but clearly I’m in the minority 🤷🏼‍♀️

Is it even legal to put spikes?

Sweaterbag · 30/04/2025 18:15

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 18:12

I think people are misinterpreting my post - I am FINE with her putting measures in place I just personally think spikes with absolutely no warning is rude. I wouldn’t ask her to take the spikes down - infact I want to repair the broken relationship! The chat would to ask how long he has been bothering her, is there anything on my end she wants me to do.

I’m not visually seeing my cat shit in her garden and shrugging my shoulders. I’ve seen my cat sitting on our fence and walking along her grass. I don’t know what he’s doing when I can’t see him, which is why I would’ve appreciated her telling me she’s having an issue.

I don’t know who the fence belongs to, I just say shared fence as a blanket term. Her garden is a L shape that curves around the back of ours.

You're being disingenuous. You know the cat is going in her garden and of course you know what it's doing whilst there.

You apparently want a conversation to repair the broken relationship, but you haven't initiated one in three years?

Did you give her warning you were going to let a cat use her garden as a toilet? Was that rude?

UndermyShoeJoe · 30/04/2025 18:14

Plastic spikes are perfectly legal and actually don’t tend to stop cats that’s much. Our council tell people to use them.

sanityisamyth · 30/04/2025 18:14

sugarspiceandeverythingnice12 · 30/04/2025 17:40

I absolutely and utterly DETEST cats shitting in my garden. I understand there is nothing I can do about it. I understand i have to "let them"......but fuck me it really really annoys me

The arrogance. The entitled ness.

If i had the energy I'd put spikes on my fence too

Go neighbour, go!

This.

UndermyShoeJoe · 30/04/2025 18:13

I mean I don’t see my own cats shit in my garden but I know they are despite them all having their own litter trays they use.

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 18:13

TheCurious0range · 30/04/2025 18:11

The spikes may not be legal, because they can cause harm to emergency services needing to gain access.
We have a covered outdoor litter tray for our cat , largely because he was peeing in my peony pot, we empty it and keep it clean other cats don't seem to use it I assume because it smells like him. That would stop him going to the toilet in her garden.
Why don't you talk to her and say Joan I've noticed you put spikes on the fence, is there an issue?

Well that’s what I was proposing to do but people seem to be outraged at that 😅

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