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AIBU to be annoyed neighbour put spikes on the fence?

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SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 17:28

We’ve lived in this house for nearly 5 years. At first neighbour was very welcoming and friendly. She’s an older lady (late 60s?) who lives on her own. She used to be lovely to our children. The past 3 years though shes just completely changed. She stopped talking to us, actively avoids us and blanks us. If we smile and say hello when we see her she looks down and pretends we aren’t speaking to her. It’s so bizarre. The only thing that has changed is we got a cat. He is an outdoor cat and admittedly probably does go into her garden.

Today she’s been hammering spikes into the fence! No warning or conversation. Infact whenever we go outside she runs into her greenhouse to hide until we go back in! I think this is so passive aggressive and I’m actually upset that she seems to think she can’t even approach us. We’ve always been friendly. She’s never spoken to us about the cat bothering her. I probably wouldn’t be bothered about the spikes if she had told us beforehand or said she had an issue with the cat. DP thinks I should go speak to her and just ask what’s going on but my parents think I should just ignore it. Aibu if I say something?

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Bananagirlc · 30/04/2025 18:36

I think YANBU OP. Weird to put spikes on a fence. I have cats, but I have also not always had cats and never known my garden to fill up with cat poo to the extent experienced on MN.

andtheworldrollson · 30/04/2025 18:36

You bought a cat that shits in her garden - I less your words were “let me know whenever the cat shits on your garden or causes any problems and I’ll sort it out” I guess she isn’t interested in any chat

foreverblowingbubbless · 30/04/2025 18:36

Are these the plastic spikes or large metal ones? If the plastic ones they didn't deter our cat 😂 we made our garden secure - best thing ever.

Yellowtulipsdancing · 30/04/2025 18:36

I am fed up of constantly having to clear cat poo out of my garden, having to check it before my children play in their garden.
currebtly my newly planted flower bed has been used by cats and needs sorting.

it takes time and is an unpleasant job.

Sweaterbag · 30/04/2025 18:36

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 18:34

I’ve tried to talk to her but she pretends that I don’t exist

You've said "I'm really sorry our cat's upsetting you" and she's ignored you?

ButterCrackers · 30/04/2025 18:35

It must be to stop your cat getting into her garden.

Marmaladelade · 30/04/2025 18:35

I recently got two cats - when I started letting them out I noticed they were in the neighbours garden a lot because it’s so exciting - very mature and lots of hiding places - I immediately knocked on his door to tell him and to discuss and invited him to soak them with water to stop it if he didn’t like and keep me informed, he is a cat lover, but I didnt assume he would be ok with this

I also made a outdoor cat litter in my garden for them to use so I know they are not pooing elsewhere and annoying neighbours

I think you could have done more to help the situation - she probably doesn’t know how to say she hates it but you seem like you know so be more proactive and neighbourly

AgnesX · 30/04/2025 18:34

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 17:39

It’s the fact it’s out of nowhere. She’s never mentioned having an issue with the cat - yes if she said something I wouldn’t tried to prevent it by cat proofing or even keeping him indoors. She’s literally not even given us eye contact for 3 years. I think it’s rude to put spikes on my fence with no warning at all. If she had a conversation with me to say the cat is bothering me can we do something about it of course I would have cooperated!

It's your fence?? She needs a few words for doing it regardless of how pissed off she is with your cat.

I'd be getting a claw hammer and ripping them out.

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 18:34

cakewench · 30/04/2025 18:28

You're bothered and now irritated with her that she won't just raise the issue with you, but you are also an adult who could also just raise the issue with her. You're the one who brought in the source of the issue. She's wound up about the cat, obviously (given the spikes) but doesn't want the confrontation about it. Maybe she feels outnumbered, given that there's two of you and she lives alone. Honestly she might also just be resigned to the shitting cat, given that they have right to roam in this country and there's nothing she can do about it.

I’ve tried to talk to her but she pretends that I don’t exist

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Sweaterbag · 30/04/2025 18:34

I imagine having neighbours who you've gone out of your way to be nice, to letting their cat destroy your garden without any discussion, is pretty upsetting, but she hasn't spoken to you because she doesn't want a scene. Afterall, you must know what it's doing, if you are reasonable and able to stop it, surely you'd have already done it.

UndermyShoeJoe · 30/04/2025 18:33

If you’d be willing to keep it in for shitting why did you not just cat proof your garden to start with to keep it in.

fiveIsNewOne · 30/04/2025 18:32

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 18:26

I haven’t, but I absolutely would be willing to. As I’ve said 100 times I WANT to talk to her about it. But every time I go near her she either runs back indoors or acts like she can’t hear me.

And if she talks to you, what can you offer to her? Practical suggestion which would improve the situation, not just a polite chat expecting her to say "no problem"?

You decided to bring a nuisance to your neighbourhood, not everyone will love you for it.

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 18:31

TheHerboriste · 30/04/2025 18:23

You said it's going into her garden but you won't keep it indoors, so what would you have done?

She sized you up as an inconsiderate clod and decided to wash her hands of you, and now she is taking steps to protect her plants & birds, and keep cats and catshit out. What's it to you?

I would keep it indoors, I mistyped.

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APurpleSquirrel · 30/04/2025 18:30

Flamingo68 · 30/04/2025 17:52

Who owns the fence? It’s not likely to be a shared fence, someone owns it.

Not necessarily - on our estate fences between properties are shared ownership & only boundary fences have one owner - found that out when our fence blew down in a storm.

WiddlinDiddlin · 30/04/2025 18:29

If it is definitely your fence, take the spikes down if they pose an actual threat to your cat, and replace with a suitable cat proofing option.

If it is not your fence, still put up a sensible cat proofing option.

Safe cat spikes tend not to be effective - rollers or netting (put up by you!) are - dangerous cat spikes (ie close together and actually sharp) can cause injury to an unsuspecting cat and are not appropriate, regardless of whose fence it is (similarly you can't stick up broken glass or razor wire on a shared boundary or a boundary to which the public have access to and the legal methods like anti-vandal paint or electric fencing must have warning signs every few metres).

She is a dick for not speaking to you and just asking you to put up something to stop the cat coming across to her garden. But if you know your cat wanders and likely shits in others gardens, you're also a dick for not pre-empting this.

cakewench · 30/04/2025 18:28

You're bothered and now irritated with her that she won't just raise the issue with you, but you are also an adult who could also just raise the issue with her. You're the one who brought in the source of the issue. She's wound up about the cat, obviously (given the spikes) but doesn't want the confrontation about it. Maybe she feels outnumbered, given that there's two of you and she lives alone. Honestly she might also just be resigned to the shitting cat, given that they have right to roam in this country and there's nothing she can do about it.

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 18:28

TheHerboriste · 30/04/2025 18:25

She's decided to grey rock you, and I don't blame her.

Some neighbours here next door let their dogs shit on my front garden every day, regardless of requests from me and the people on the other side to leash them. They also put up a basketball net about eight feet from my living room windows, several years ago. The noise was to the point I couldn't hear my own televsion or audiobooks. They knew it and didn't care. It was as though I didn't exist. What they and their kids wanted was priority.

I never spoke to them again or acknowledged their existence. The husband tried to talk with me a few times and I just walked away. Thankfully everyone else hated them too, and they finally moved.

One reaps what one sows.

I think comparing me to that is a bit extreme, you don’t even know me. I’m not an antisocial hooligan terrorising her 🙄

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MyNameIsX · 30/04/2025 18:27

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 18:26

I haven’t, but I absolutely would be willing to. As I’ve said 100 times I WANT to talk to her about it. But every time I go near her she either runs back indoors or acts like she can’t hear me.

Send a card perhaps?

Preferably not a feline-themed one.

SeaShellsSanctuary1 · 30/04/2025 18:27

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 17:39

It’s the fact it’s out of nowhere. She’s never mentioned having an issue with the cat - yes if she said something I wouldn’t tried to prevent it by cat proofing or even keeping him indoors. She’s literally not even given us eye contact for 3 years. I think it’s rude to put spikes on my fence with no warning at all. If she had a conversation with me to say the cat is bothering me can we do something about it of course I would have cooperated!

Did you tell her warn her you were getting a "garden destroying shit machine". Looks like she's just matching your silence.

It didn't come out of nowhere it came out of the introduction of the cat which she clearly doesn't like. It was inevitable the cat would visit her garden, but you didn't give it consideration at the time

Aprilweather · 30/04/2025 18:27

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 30/04/2025 18:11

If you're aware that your cat is probably shitting in her garden, why didn't you do something to prevent it in the first place? You could have got roller for the tops of your fence to stop the cat getting out of your own space - then she wouldn't have had to get spikes.

I am actually planning the rollers for my garden. I love cats, but they don't even come for a cuddle. Just shit, trample over things when quickly fucking off. Would probably be more forgiving if they were friendlier.
It can also get really ridiculous when you have few cats trying to claim your garden sadly

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 18:26

Riaanna · 30/04/2025 18:24

Have you approached her directly and apologised for your cat?

I haven’t, but I absolutely would be willing to. As I’ve said 100 times I WANT to talk to her about it. But every time I go near her she either runs back indoors or acts like she can’t hear me.

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TheHerboriste · 30/04/2025 18:25

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 18:22

I’ve tried, she won’t even look at me when I try interact with her.

She's decided to grey rock you, and I don't blame her.

Some neighbours here next door let their dogs shit on my front garden every day, regardless of requests from me and the people on the other side to leash them. They also put up a basketball net about eight feet from my living room windows, several years ago. The noise was to the point I couldn't hear my own televsion or audiobooks. They knew it and didn't care. It was as though I didn't exist. What they and their kids wanted was priority.

I never spoke to them again or acknowledged their existence. The husband tried to talk with me a few times and I just walked away. Thankfully everyone else hated them too, and they finally moved.

One reaps what one sows.

Liverpool52 · 30/04/2025 18:25

SunnyLuny · 30/04/2025 18:16

Did you miss the part of my post where I said I smile at her, say hello, and try interact but she completely and utterly pretends I don’t exist? There’s been plenty of opportunities

Presumably then there were lots of opportunities before you got the cat to say "hi neighbour we're getting a cat, if it becomes a nuisance in your garden as they so often do let me know".

But you didn't.

MyDeftDuck · 30/04/2025 18:25

Sorry OP but if you lived next door to me I would be doing exactly the same as your neighbour with regard to keeping your cat off my garden! There is nothing worse than working in your own garden and either standing in or putting your hand in cat poo! It carries disease and stinks!

BobbyBiscuits · 30/04/2025 18:25

She's entitled to put spikes on her fence. She doesnt want to speak to you so just ignore her.

If your cat is pooing in her garden then she knows you can't really stop it, so she's taking her own measures rather than getting into confrontation.

Just accept that she's no longer friendly and don't have any contact with her.