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What should I have done? (almost hit horse and rider with my car)

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Redstorm2807 · 30/04/2025 12:06

Posting for traffic as feeling really shaken up by this incident and honestly not sure what I should have done differently.

Driving yesterday afternoon, come out of a village with a 30 limit onto a country road section which is a 60 limit. Accelerated out of village so probably doing 40 ish when I come round a corner and find a large horse with a rider walking very slowly in the road in front of me. There is a car coming in the other direction so I do an emergency stop and thankfully come to a stop a few metres away. The car behind also has to do emergency stop.

The horse thankfully was not spooked by this and continues walking on but the rider is very angry, shouting and waving his hands at me.

I slowly drive past the horse and continue on my way. I always drive very slowly near horses

I don't speed, I'm one of those people who do 30 until the speed sign in a village (we live fairly rurally so lots of journeys are short stretches of 30 through villages then stretches of 60 between).

Thinking about it I'm not sure there was anything else I could have done differently apart from drive at slowly all the time which obviously isn't a sensible option. I could have been doing 50 or 60 by that point if I had accelerated harder in which case I would have likely killed the horse, rider and possibly myself.

I'm still feeling quite shaken the day after and worried about it happening again - is there something I'm missing or is this just the risk we take when driving??

OP posts:
LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 30/04/2025 14:41

Redstorm2807 · 30/04/2025 12:06

Posting for traffic as feeling really shaken up by this incident and honestly not sure what I should have done differently.

Driving yesterday afternoon, come out of a village with a 30 limit onto a country road section which is a 60 limit. Accelerated out of village so probably doing 40 ish when I come round a corner and find a large horse with a rider walking very slowly in the road in front of me. There is a car coming in the other direction so I do an emergency stop and thankfully come to a stop a few metres away. The car behind also has to do emergency stop.

The horse thankfully was not spooked by this and continues walking on but the rider is very angry, shouting and waving his hands at me.

I slowly drive past the horse and continue on my way. I always drive very slowly near horses

I don't speed, I'm one of those people who do 30 until the speed sign in a village (we live fairly rurally so lots of journeys are short stretches of 30 through villages then stretches of 60 between).

Thinking about it I'm not sure there was anything else I could have done differently apart from drive at slowly all the time which obviously isn't a sensible option. I could have been doing 50 or 60 by that point if I had accelerated harder in which case I would have likely killed the horse, rider and possibly myself.

I'm still feeling quite shaken the day after and worried about it happening again - is there something I'm missing or is this just the risk we take when driving??

Speed limits are advisory, it’s not mandatory that you drive at 60mph, you drive according to the conditions.

I’m a horse rider and a driver, the stables that I use are on a 60mph rural road, but I am always cautious because of horses but also slow moving farm vehicles and oncoming vehicles.

It sounds like a genuine error, the only advice I can give is to drive more cautiously in future, if it isn’t a straight clear road ahead then reduce your speed.

Doyouthinktheyknow · 30/04/2025 14:34

This is basically how my dbro died! He was a pedestrian crossing the road beyond a bridge with a blind summit. The car came over at speed and couldn’t stop in time. The footpath came out to the road and continued the other side so it was inevitable he crossed where he did.

As others have said, if you can’t see around the bend you need to slow in anticipation. There could have been a stationary vehicle, group of pedestrians, anything!

It’s good you are shaken up, hopefully it will make you more cautious in future. Our family has been devastated by the loss of my dbro, be thankful you were able to stop and didn’t inflict that pain on another family.

Paganpentacle · 30/04/2025 14:34

thischarmimgwoman · 30/04/2025 14:31

I know what the law is - I’m merely commenting from what I’ve observed about the practicalities. I live rurally and am horse/cycle/tractor etc aware. But not everyone is and the animals should be protected.

If you know the law... dont be on here advocating for horse to go on footpaths.
We cant, we wont and to have people shouting at us to get off the road and onto the footpath just adds another layer of stress....

LakieLady · 30/04/2025 14:31

Strangeworldtoday · 30/04/2025 12:46

Agree with the slow on the bend advice. If you can't see then go slow. It could be a hiker, a cat, a horse, bycylce round the corner. Just take the corners slowly :)

I won't travel in my friend's car any more, after the day she hurtled round a bend far too fast and nearly slammed into a post office van. She's a truly appalling driver and it terrifies me. She seems truly oblivious to what's going on around her half the time.

thischarmimgwoman · 30/04/2025 14:31

Paganpentacle · 30/04/2025 14:17

we are not allowed on footpaths.
we ARE however allowed on the road.
The expectation and obligation i for other road users not to kill us.

I know what the law is - I’m merely commenting from what I’ve observed about the practicalities. I live rurally and am horse/cycle/tractor etc aware. But not everyone is and the animals should be protected.

TicTac80 · 30/04/2025 14:30

I’m v glad that you’re ok and no one was hurt! Definitely in future, limit your speed to keep yourself safe.

I was actually driving on some rural/country roads near me this morning - speed signs say 60 (frankly insane) but I won’t drive above 30 on them (and I slow right down on bends): that probably pisses people off, but I know these roads well - there are blind corners, bends, horse riders, walkers, cyclists, farm vehicles etc. Every so often, I’ll pull in a lay-by to let others pass me. In the end, I want to get from A to B safely, and if that takes a few more minutes, then so be it.

AliBaliBee1234 · 30/04/2025 14:28

We all make mistakes when driving OP. Like others have said, take care on bends especially country roads. 40ph doesn't seem fast but if you come across an obstacle it is tricky to slow down quickly.

Horserider is also taking a bit of a risk riding on a 60mph right enough!

These near misses make us better drivers usually and they happen to the best of us.

Maddy70 · 30/04/2025 14:25

Do you always drive fast around country bends? Thete could have been a broken down car, farm machinery, horses , kids on ponies etc. Sorry you need to keep your speed down the national speed isn't a target

LakieLady · 30/04/2025 14:21

Lacoutine · 30/04/2025 12:14

You should always be able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear (have just checked the Highway Code and it is rule 126):
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/general-rules-techniques-and-advice-for-all-drivers-and-riders-103-to-158
You were clearly going too fast - the speed limit is a maximum not a guide.
Sorry, I probably sound a bit harsh but I am a rider and fed up of people coming round corners too fast.

Thanks, I was minded to post similar but then wondered if perhaps it had changed in the 50 years since I passed my test! Anyway, it's common sense and also one of the reasons why they have signs warning that a bend is coming up so that you have time to slow down.

Learn your lesson, OP, and approach bends more slowly in future.

Paganpentacle · 30/04/2025 14:20

Dotjones · 30/04/2025 13:03

You did nothing wrong - nothing actually happened. When going round a blind corner you need to be driving at a speed that you can stop if there's a hidden obstruction, which is what you did. Try not to overthink it, the horse rider should not have shouted at you. It's as much their responsibility not to create a hidden hazard as it is yours to be on the look out for one. You fulfilled your responsibility and the horse rider didn't.

Simply being on the road is not being a hazard
They have every right to be there...

YOLOPPL · 30/04/2025 14:19

You def need to be going round blind corners slow enough that you stop, which you actually did. If you screeched to a halt inches off the horse's arse, needs to be a bit slower. The rider was likely just spooked and took it out on you if you werent near him, its REALLY nerve wracking riding on roads, i cant do it anymore.

OldLondonDad · 30/04/2025 14:18

It's pretty simple - you drive at a speed from which you can stop within the distance you can see is clear. Assume the road is not clear until you can see it is.

What should have done? Been driving slower.

Paganpentacle · 30/04/2025 14:17

thischarmimgwoman · 30/04/2025 14:03

They shouldn’t be on the road. How more of them aren’t maimed or injured, I don’t know. I think it’s cruel to put the horses at risk myself.
They should be ridden on the footpath if there are no other pedestrians and if there’s no footpath on twisty country roads they shouldn’t be there IMO.

we are not allowed on footpaths.
we ARE however allowed on the road.
The expectation and obligation i for other road users not to kill us.

Purpleisnotmycolour · 30/04/2025 14:16

The rider will have been angry because a near miss is incredibly stressful, even if you think nothing happened, an emergency stop right behind your horse is hard to get over. My pony is rock steady on the roads but would still be shaken. Please just assume there's a horse round every corner. My companion would have taken a picture of you and reported to the police. We have had two near misses this year and one person got an informal police telling off, the other driver was sent on a reeducation course through work.

Paganpentacle · 30/04/2025 14:16

Redstorm2807 · 30/04/2025 12:18

This has been really helpful - I needed a head wobble. Thanks everyone :)

As a horse rider... thank you.
Also a heads up... we wear helmet cams these days, and we have a portal to upload incidents like this to the police.
I've submitted on two occasions and both ended up with either fine or court

beardediris · 30/04/2025 14:15

Horses are legally not allowed on footpaths or the pavement for that matter.
Lije other slow moving things bicycles quad bikes tractors pedestrians they have a legal right to be in the road and drivers have a legal requirement to drive around them safely.
https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/rules-about-animals-horse-riders.html
www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/other-road-users.html

Rules about animals - Horse riders (49 to 55)

Safety equipment. Children under the age of 14 MUST wear a helmet which complies with the Regulations. It MUST be fastened securely.

https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/rules-about-animals-horse-riders.html

rosemarble · 30/04/2025 14:12

DaysEndConfused · 30/04/2025 14:11

What is a carless driver? I am aware there is an error but can't work out what you really mean.

A driver not paying full attention to the road?

DaysEndConfused · 30/04/2025 14:11

NovemberMorn · 30/04/2025 12:13

If you can't see what's in front of you, you drive with caution.
Obviously you could not see what was round the corner, so you should have been driving slower than you were.
Thankfully no one was hurt.
I knew a girl who was horse riding and a carless driver knocked down the horse, killed it, and the girl was badly hurt.

What is a carless driver? I am aware there is an error but can't work out what you really mean.

TheignT · 30/04/2025 14:09

Redstorm2807 · 30/04/2025 12:14

I suppose that summarises it pretty well! I think I've become too familiar with these roads - alarmingly I see so many people take corners as fast as they can rather than as fast as is sensible. Thanks

I live in an area with lots of these sort of roads and I avoid them if I can, it is because of the over confident local drivers who think because it is a 60 mph road they can do 60 regardless. I swear some of them really believe they can see round a blind bend. Glad you can see the issue and I wish everyone could.

beardediris · 30/04/2025 14:08

Eggsinthewhoopsiebasketalready · 30/04/2025 13:20

Genuinely question to horse riders..
Why do you choose to ride your horse amongst tons of metal which need more than a few seconds to come to a stop?

Because contrary to what many think horses are only allowed to be ridden on bridle ways or land where they have permission from the land owner and many will charge for this. They cannot just be ridden say on any old field running parallel to a road just as in England walkers do not have the right to roam so cannot walk in any field/open space they come across and like the look of. The vast majority of riders do not wish to ride on roads but only a lucky few have access to good off road riding and never have to put a hoof on a road to get to it. Many will ride on roads the majority of the time because whoever rural they might be there are simply no bridle paths or land with permission for horses to cross it.

snowmichael · 30/04/2025 14:06

What should you have done?

Slowed down for a blind corner, obviously

housemaus · 30/04/2025 14:05

There's a national speed limit section of country roads near me where there isn't a single bit you could actually get up to 40 safely, never mind 60 - just have to take it easy unless it's a straight.

thischarmimgwoman · 30/04/2025 14:03

They shouldn’t be on the road. How more of them aren’t maimed or injured, I don’t know. I think it’s cruel to put the horses at risk myself.
They should be ridden on the footpath if there are no other pedestrians and if there’s no footpath on twisty country roads they shouldn’t be there IMO.

Meadowfinch · 30/04/2025 14:00

Katemax82 · 30/04/2025 13:31

You could have given the rider the middle finger, he shouldn't have shouted at you! I lived in an area where there were always horses and it's bloody annoying

You need a serious change of attitude @Katemax82 , before you do someone serious harm. Horse riders, cyclists and dog walkers have as much right to be on the road as you do.

As do the slow moving (and very solid) tractors, hay wagons and combine harvesters that move along country lanes.

The rider in this case should not have shouted but 'giving the finger' is a motoring offence. You also need to reread and understand the hierarchy of risk if you wish to keep your licence.

beardediris · 30/04/2025 13:57

BlahBlahBittyBlah · 30/04/2025 12:17

No harm done this time thankfully, but lesson learned. Always assume there may be something around a corner when you can’t see. A half tonne horse landing on a windscreen is as likely to kill the driver as the horse and rider. It’s easy to get complacent when it’s a familiar route.

There have been few if any horse related accidents in the UK where the driver was killed.
Lots of accidents where horses were either killed or seriously injured and their ridden careers were ended. Sadly also some accidents where riders were killed or seriously injured.
What many none horsey people also don’t seem to appreciate is that a horses first reaction to being really frightened (yes a car coming too fast around a corner can be enough to frighten even a normally sensible horse) is to run away, they are flight animals, often in a blind panic unaware of what dangers are around it, bolting horses have hit cars walls etc. Stopping it takes a level of skill not possessed by many riders.
This can also long term problems some horses once frightened by a car may never be safe in the road again this impacts on their owners ability to ride them and their resale value few will purchase a horse that’s not safe on the road.
A friends horse was very lightly clipped by a car coming too close no physical damage was done but again was never good in traffic.
Horses are allowed on roads and it’s a legal requirement for drivers to acknowledge and remember this at all times and drive responsibly.