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What should I have done? (almost hit horse and rider with my car)

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Redstorm2807 · 30/04/2025 12:06

Posting for traffic as feeling really shaken up by this incident and honestly not sure what I should have done differently.

Driving yesterday afternoon, come out of a village with a 30 limit onto a country road section which is a 60 limit. Accelerated out of village so probably doing 40 ish when I come round a corner and find a large horse with a rider walking very slowly in the road in front of me. There is a car coming in the other direction so I do an emergency stop and thankfully come to a stop a few metres away. The car behind also has to do emergency stop.

The horse thankfully was not spooked by this and continues walking on but the rider is very angry, shouting and waving his hands at me.

I slowly drive past the horse and continue on my way. I always drive very slowly near horses

I don't speed, I'm one of those people who do 30 until the speed sign in a village (we live fairly rurally so lots of journeys are short stretches of 30 through villages then stretches of 60 between).

Thinking about it I'm not sure there was anything else I could have done differently apart from drive at slowly all the time which obviously isn't a sensible option. I could have been doing 50 or 60 by that point if I had accelerated harder in which case I would have likely killed the horse, rider and possibly myself.

I'm still feeling quite shaken the day after and worried about it happening again - is there something I'm missing or is this just the risk we take when driving??

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Talkwhilstyouwalk · 30/04/2025 16:34

I think you just need to put this down to a live and learn situation...no harm done. I do find horses annoying on roads though I must say.

PicklesMacGraw · 30/04/2025 16:27

OP
Thinking about it I'm not sure there was anything else I could have done differently apart from drive at slowly all the time which obviously isn't a sensible option.

You don’t have to drive slowly all the time but you do have to be driving slowly enough to stop if there is an obstruction. I do lots of driving in our local lanes and I always slow right down when I can’t see around a corner. It’s scarey to think that you think it’s ok to drive fast around corners.

It’s not just horses, cyclists or pedestrians there are lots of other potential hazards. The deer around where I live have a habit of jumping straight out of hedges in front of cars, you see a lot of dead deer.

Have a look at some of your normal routes and see how much time you would actually save by going fast rather than just going at a sensible speed. It probably isn’t going to save you that much time and driving slower is much more relaxing. Chill and enjoy the ride. 🧘🏻‍♀️

If a bend is particularly tight, especially one on a single lane road, I sometimes give a pip of my horn.

WiddlinDiddlin · 30/04/2025 16:23

Eggsinthewhoopsiebasketalready · 30/04/2025 13:20

Genuinely question to horse riders..
Why do you choose to ride your horse amongst tons of metal which need more than a few seconds to come to a stop?

Because horses require exercise, roads are a means of getting from a to b, many bridlepaths are out of use or gone completely, because going round and round in circles in a school is fairly boring and not good for the horse...

Because it isn't legal to just 'ride in the fields' as those fields belong to other people who likely don't want them churned up with horses.

Why do any road users use roads - the road takes them where they need to go.

Maisiewilks · 30/04/2025 16:02

I'm a horse rider (and I drive) and there are things both rider and driver can do to help stop this sort of thing from happening.
Firstly the corner is the issue. If you can not see around it go slow, you never know who or what might be around the bend secondly what was the horse rider wearing?
I wear a hiz Viz hat cover so I can be seen over hedges at much as possible, my horse wears high Viz too or a zebra stripes fly riding rug in the summer. I do everything I can to be seen. Riders who don't do this are asking for trouble!
I'd say if your on a narrow country lane at least expect so meet a horse, dog walker, cyclist or car and be going slow enough to stop easily.

ProfessionalPirate · 30/04/2025 15:56

thischarmimgwoman · 30/04/2025 15:31

Thank goodness. No fun having a car bonnet up your backside.
No, not anti horses or anti horses being ridden, though you may like that to be my angle.
I love to see them out and about, just not on narrow roads with a 60 limit, no footpath and nowhere to go out of the way of a loon 🤷‍♀️

As a horse rider, why on earth would I like that to be your angle? I’m pleased that it’s not.

unfortunately, riding on country roads is usually unavoidable in order to get said horses out and about. It’s illegal to ride horses on footpaths or pavements so that wouldn’t help much. Wide grass verges are wonderful when they are there but often they aren’t. Country roads can be, almost by definition, narrow and national speed limit. It is what it is 🤷🏻‍♀️

RanchRat · 30/04/2025 15:48

Read the road matey. Accelerating out of a village onto a blind bend just because speed limit says you can is reckless and foolish.

RareGoalsVerge · 30/04/2025 15:41

thischarmimgwoman · 30/04/2025 15:31

Thank goodness. No fun having a car bonnet up your backside.
No, not anti horses or anti horses being ridden, though you may like that to be my angle.
I love to see them out and about, just not on narrow roads with a 60 limit, no footpath and nowhere to go out of the way of a loon 🤷‍♀️

The horses (well, their umpty-great grandparents) were using those narrow roads long before the loons started driving motor vehicles. The reason they are narrow is because that's all the width a horse needs. Perhaps the narrow roads should all be made out-of-bounds for any motor-vehicle driver not holding an advanced driving qualification that includes a significant element of content on safe driving on rural roads (renewable every 5 years min) and anyone who doesn't invest their time and effort in learning appropriate road safety for such road types can just restrict themselves to destinations and routes where the roads are wide enough and straight enough to not need additional skill and good sense. Drivers do not own the roads.

thischarmimgwoman · 30/04/2025 15:31

ProfessionalPirate · 30/04/2025 15:24

I’m not sure what your angle is - perhaps you are anti- horses being ridden or existing altogether. But I can say with confidence that the majority of horses would much prefer to be taken out on a nice hack than going around in endless circles inside a small boring school. Accidents are thankfully very rare.

Thank goodness. No fun having a car bonnet up your backside.
No, not anti horses or anti horses being ridden, though you may like that to be my angle.
I love to see them out and about, just not on narrow roads with a 60 limit, no footpath and nowhere to go out of the way of a loon 🤷‍♀️

ProfessionalPirate · 30/04/2025 15:27

OldLondonDad · 30/04/2025 14:18

It's pretty simple - you drive at a speed from which you can stop within the distance you can see is clear. Assume the road is not clear until you can see it is.

What should have done? Been driving slower.

This - and also on single track roads you need to be able to stop in half the distance you can see is clear (to account for possible traffic heading towards you)

CautiousLurker01 · 30/04/2025 15:26

Scary incident that at least no-one was hurt in, but the guidance is regardless of the statutory speed limit you only go as fast as the road conditions and visibility allow, and blind corners should be approached very very slowly. 20mphr would be the max I’d take those.

That said, if it changes immediately from 30mph to 60 at that point, it might be worth writing to the local council and/or your MP because it sounds as though it should be a max of 40 on the approach to a sharp bend AND that perhaps a ‘beware of horses’ sign also be placed there? They tend to only change things where there have been actual accidents, but if you explain that one was very narrowly avoided they may take notice.

ProfessionalPirate · 30/04/2025 15:24

thischarmimgwoman · 30/04/2025 14:59

I can see it would be more stressful
for you. I just cringe regularly for the horses. They’ve no choice where they’re ridden.

I’m not sure what your angle is - perhaps you are anti- horses being ridden or existing altogether. But I can say with confidence that the majority of horses would much prefer to be taken out on a nice hack than going around in endless circles inside a small boring school. Accidents are thankfully very rare.

AliBaliBee1234 · 30/04/2025 15:20

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 30/04/2025 14:45

A lot of rural roads have 60mph limits, the stables that I use is in beautiful countryside but the road outside it, although pretty much single track, is a 60mph road, so riders don’t have a choice.

I don't even like driving on 60mph country roads

MrsJoanDanvers · 30/04/2025 15:13

If I’m approaching a corner on a rural road, I always slow down no matter what the speed limit. You never know what’s round there. I was taught to always drive defensively. You were lucky this time and maybe a bit of a shakeup is a valuable lesson.

cryinglaughing · 30/04/2025 15:04

As a rider, it can be terrifying hearing someone coming really fast behind you and realising there is nowhere for you to tuck in.

thischarmimgwoman · 30/04/2025 15:00

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 30/04/2025 14:45

A lot of rural roads have 60mph limits, the stables that I use is in beautiful countryside but the road outside it, although pretty much single track, is a 60mph road, so riders don’t have a choice.

This is the trouble where we live. Ridiculous being a 60 limit. So dangerous.

PhilippaGeorgiou · 30/04/2025 14:59

Redstorm2807 · 30/04/2025 12:14

I suppose that summarises it pretty well! I think I've become too familiar with these roads - alarmingly I see so many people take corners as fast as they can rather than as fast as is sensible. Thanks

I moved to a similar area last year, and I see this all the time. People familiar with lanes that have lots of twisty bends going far too fast for the conditions, taking bends wide because of their speed, hanging on my bumper because they want to go faster, etc. I also see lots of cars in the ditches, some upside down. The bottom line is that if you can't see around a corner, assume there's an idiot lorry at 50mph in the centre of the road. It concentrates the mind on the correct speed to be doing.

BTW, if you are one of the drivers on my bumper, that doesn't make me speed up, it makes me slow down. If you won't observe stopping distances then I am always happy to help you out.

thischarmimgwoman · 30/04/2025 14:59

Paganpentacle · 30/04/2025 14:34

If you know the law... dont be on here advocating for horse to go on footpaths.
We cant, we wont and to have people shouting at us to get off the road and onto the footpath just adds another layer of stress....

I can see it would be more stressful
for you. I just cringe regularly for the horses. They’ve no choice where they’re ridden.

NoctuaAthene · 30/04/2025 14:58

ProfessionalPirate · 30/04/2025 13:49

Lack of any other options. To get to the nearest bridlepath. I don’t know anyone who loves riding on the roads and does it for pleasure. It is a necessary evil. Thankfully most drivers are sensible and considerate, but of course it only takes one…

Yes like others have said, we do it because we have no choice - I don't know any rider that finds being on the roads relaxing, between speedy drivers, hoardes of cyclists suddenly zooming up silently behind you, kids on scooters darting out into your path, loose aggressive dogs chasing you, it's not much fun out there. If we all had the option to ride exclusively on bridlepaths or on private land I suspect we'd all take it and you'd never see another horse on the roads again! But sadly outside very fancy private estates and a few lucky souls who live inside national parks or with extensive bridlepaths on their doorstep, pretty much everyone has to do at least a stretch of road to get to somewhere safe to ride...

TheGoogleMum · 30/04/2025 14:57

Glad this has been helpful for you and an important lesson learnt with no harm done :)
I live in the suburbs and there is a blind bend in the road near my house that always has a car parked on it (tbh this is the main problem and they really shouldn't park there) and people always take the bend really fast, I am certain one day there will be a nasty accident

BumpyWinds · 30/04/2025 14:53

Well done @Redstorm2807 .

You came, you asked if you were being unreasonable, posters confirmed (nicely!) that you were, supplied supporting evidence as to why and you accepted it graciously so you and plenty others that read the post will learn from it!

And, all within the first page!

shockthemonkey · 30/04/2025 14:49

I'm a rider and hate being on the road as I'm always imagining this scenario.

A rider from a stables I rode at long ago was killed, and so was her horse. It was slightly different in that they were negotiating a turn across a fast road, but still.

Lesson learned. I'm not going to pile on. You were thoroughly shaken by this, and of course, so was the rider. Luckily the horse was sensible about it! Mine would not have been. That's why I moved him to a stable where no road work was needed, even though it added a half hour to my commute. It's just terrifying what can happen on the roads.

Wigglytails · 30/04/2025 14:48

If you were doing 40 out of a village on a blind corner sounds like you could have hit the animal and rider or anyone else in your way and you are at fault. Just slow down. It’s perfectly acceptable to do less than 30 in a village and when leaving one. Most people would thank you for being sensible. Im sure the rider and horse are more shaken up than you

Pricelessadvice · 30/04/2025 14:47

Eggsinthewhoopsiebasketalready · 30/04/2025 13:20

Genuinely question to horse riders..
Why do you choose to ride your horse amongst tons of metal which need more than a few seconds to come to a stop?

Lack of places to ride, have to use roads to reach bridleways.. etc. We aren’t allowed on footpaths, pavements or in random fields (as everyone thinks!)
I am fortunate to have a farm to ride around. I rarely use the roads nowadays as they terrify me. If I do I go out early on quiet roads. My horses are my whole world, I hate putting them in danger.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 30/04/2025 14:45

AliBaliBee1234 · 30/04/2025 14:28

We all make mistakes when driving OP. Like others have said, take care on bends especially country roads. 40ph doesn't seem fast but if you come across an obstacle it is tricky to slow down quickly.

Horserider is also taking a bit of a risk riding on a 60mph right enough!

These near misses make us better drivers usually and they happen to the best of us.

Edited

A lot of rural roads have 60mph limits, the stables that I use is in beautiful countryside but the road outside it, although pretty much single track, is a 60mph road, so riders don’t have a choice.

Manxexile · 30/04/2025 14:44

@Redstorm2807 - "... Thinking about it I'm not sure there was anything else I could have done differently apart from drive at slowly all the time which obviously isn't a sensible option..."

Well of course that is a sensible - and legally correct - option!

You sound like a really dangerous driver if the moment you leave a 30mph limit you are looking to accelerate up to the permitted maximum despite not knowing what is around the corner ahead. You and the driver behind you should not have needed to make emergency stops to avoid hitting the horse and rider.

The rider was 100% justified in displaying their anger