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To not help my Mum change Grandads bedding?

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NimbleBee · 30/04/2025 09:30

My DM is taking care of my grandad in his final months.
I helped twice this week change his bedding, because he is double incontinent now with his age and illness.
My DM asked for help yesterday, I have said I can not help no more.
Aibu? My Grandad has other family who could help but do not.
My step Dad was not happy yesterday when I declined to help my DM.
I said to my retired step Dad, that he should go and change the bedding as it is his wife who is 70yr old that needs help with her Dad's bed change and he has lots of free time.
Yesterday step Dad was sunbathing and sleeping in the garden instead of helping.

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dogcatkitten · 30/04/2025 16:31

You're a relative your step dad isn't. He should help his wife, but I can see that might be difficult if the GD doesn't like an unrelated man giving very personal care. You should help, don't you have feelings for your poor GD in his final days, or compassion for your DM having to deal with it all by herself.

Motheroffive999 · 30/04/2025 16:25

You have already helped twice this week , I think her husband should help more ,I have done this for my dying mother but I wouldn't want my 20 year old son helping me as my mother would not like it.
The district nurse / GP surgery can perhaps advise your mum on what help is available.
I know how much hard work it is and you have already been helping but if you are unable to continue you have every right to say so.

Holesintheground · 30/04/2025 16:24

placemats · 30/04/2025 15:07

If it took minutes and was easy then why does a 70 year old not frail or elderly woman need help?

Word to the wise. Looking after frail, elderly end of life requires help from carers.

Anyone posting 'it only takes minutes' is showing their ignorance of what caring for an elderly incontinent person is like.

Lavender14 · 30/04/2025 16:23

Also op just to clarify are you saying you can only provide ongoing care and help twice a week or that you cannot help at all - this isn't clear from your posts. I initially read it as the latter and thought it was a bit harsh but if you're dedicating twice a week ongoing to help while there are others who are doing nothing then I think it's fair to be annoyed and put it on them. The key here is making sure your mum isn't left holding everything with noone.

Holesintheground · 30/04/2025 16:21

lifeonmars100 · 30/04/2025 15:35

He is dying, it is not as if you are going to face endless years of this. Yes. I understand that is not pleasant but think about your mum, step up and help her.

Ask some of the people, usually daughters, who've been caring for a 'dying' elderly parent for two years, five years, ten years even, about that. It happens. It's not the tense overnight deathbed scene with tears as the sun rises that Hollywood suggests. It can grind on and on.

softwater · 30/04/2025 16:19

Grow up. It’s annoying that your step dad is being unhelpful but how awful for your poor mum that you’re not willing to support her long term

Lavender14 · 30/04/2025 16:18

You're getting a lot of very direct replies here op but honestly I think you probably need to provide a bit more context to this if you want people to judge fairly.

I guess I'm wondering things like if there is a backstory between you and your grandad that means you don't feel comfortable providing him care or if there is a backstory between you and your mum?

If your resistance is due to other people not stepping up in which case could you address it with them directly?

If you are physically able to help or if there is a practical reason as to why you can't?

If you live close by enough to be able to help?

If you are refusing all help or if you provide care in other aspects?

I think if you are fit and able then I would set things aside in order to help your mum. It's not so much you looking after your grandfather as it is you looking after your mum who is in the process of losing her parent. If you have kids, this is a way to teach them accountability, care and empathy as well as the importance of treating elderly people with respect and upholding dignity of others. You resent your step dad for not helping but presumably he's of a similar age to your mum - they are both older and less able.

If you are physically unable then I think you need to think of how you can challenge your mother's siblings or husband to step up.

Wonderingwhyyy · 30/04/2025 16:18

Ohnobackagain · 30/04/2025 16:16

@Wonderingwhyyy I was talking about the intimate care. Of course she can try and get her DH to help with the rest, but that doesn’t seem to have worked so far.

OP only mentioned bedding - we do not know about intimate care.

nomas · 30/04/2025 16:17

Wishywashylaundry · 30/04/2025 16:14

Her op says she changed a bed twice this week. It's not too much really is it to help a relative. Maybe it is in your books.

Yes, I’d say going to her grandfather’s twice in one week to help care for him is a lot actually.

Why no criticism of the step-father who has been lying on his arse in the sunny garden and done fuck all to help?

Holesintheground · 30/04/2025 16:17

Wonderingwhyyy · 30/04/2025 13:56

He got the choice who did his personal care? I have known several people who had no choice with council carers.

Don't assume that is the case for everybody.

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My dad didn't get a choice.

Ohnobackagain · 30/04/2025 16:16

@Wonderingwhyyy I was talking about the intimate care. Of course she can try and get her DH to help with the rest, but that doesn’t seem to have worked so far.

nomas · 30/04/2025 16:16

Wishywashylaundry · 30/04/2025 16:14

Her op says she changed a bed twice this week. It's not too much really is it to help a relative. Maybe it is in your books.

Quoted wrong post.

Wonderingwhyyy · 30/04/2025 16:16

Wishywashylaundry · 30/04/2025 16:14

Her op says she changed a bed twice this week. It's not too much really is it to help a relative. Maybe it is in your books.

It depends how the far the OP is, whether she works, has young children, whether she is married or single.

It depends on so many factors so it might not be a lot to you but OP could be at breaking point.

Wishywashylaundry · 30/04/2025 16:14

ButterCrackers · 30/04/2025 14:05

So you think ok that other family opt out but that the OP can’t say I’ve done this too much and others should pull their weight?

Her op says she changed a bed twice this week. It's not too much really is it to help a relative. Maybe it is in your books.

Flossflower · 30/04/2025 16:12

Iceandfire92 · 30/04/2025 16:00

I personally think most people would prefer it if unrelated professionals oversaw dealing with bodily fluids and soiled pads if they became elderly and doubly incontinent. It is far more dignified for most people to have carers take care of these things, their family doesn't have to see them in that state and they are free to spend quality time with them. I see no reason why the OP's grandad is being solely cared for by his daughter, was a plan of care not put in place? Unless of course carers have been refused?

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Totally agree. There is no way we would want our adult children or grandchildren doing this for us. Carers should be brought in.
Depending on how unwell the grandfather is, it might involve some issues with lifting him or rolling him over. This is best dealt with professionals and hoists.
This is not a situation that can carry on.

BlueLegume · 30/04/2025 16:11

@Iceandfire92 excellent post. Lots of us dealing with very stubborn elderly parents who absolutely refuse external help and eventually the family have zero option but to step up. Horrible situation. Lots of stories over on Elderly Parents thread. All this nonsense about it being a privilege to care for a doubly incontinent person when their are professionals to assist so family can have quality time really annoys me.

mydamnfootstuckinthedoor · 30/04/2025 16:10

I sympathise with your position and think other posters have been rather harsh. I wouldn’t want to do it either. However, your mum clearly needs some help . Can you contact health/social services and see if she can get some?

chattyness · 30/04/2025 16:05

Wonderingwhyyy · 30/04/2025 13:53

The MEN CAN HELP.

It will be them who could be dying one day,

I didn't dispute that

Iceandfire92 · 30/04/2025 16:00

I personally think most people would prefer it if unrelated professionals oversaw dealing with bodily fluids and soiled pads if they became elderly and doubly incontinent. It is far more dignified for most people to have carers take care of these things, their family doesn't have to see them in that state and they are free to spend quality time with them. I see no reason why the OP's grandad is being solely cared for by his daughter, was a plan of care not put in place? Unless of course carers have been refused?

Pastit12 · 30/04/2025 15:54

Wonderingwhyyy · 30/04/2025 13:29

This is what keeps women as carers. Men are cut so much slack they get off scot free.

It’s not a question of “keeping women of carers or cutting men slack” l said in my post I could understand her being angry with her stepfather sitting on his lazy arse.
She wants to know if I think she is being unreasonable not giving her mum some help when she is obviously at one of the lowest points in her life and I think she is.
Not everything is about comparing wether men get it easier than women and scoring points it’s about doing what you think is right whatever sex you are I also think it would be better for her, her mum and her dying grandfather to see if any there is some professional help they could obtain.
At the end of the day you either support someone who needs it or you don’t and the fact that she has posed the question on here says to me that she may think she is being unreasonable.

Wonderingwhyyy · 30/04/2025 15:50

Women in the UK put in thousands more hours looking after elderly relatives than men do

www.healthmatters.org.uk/BLOG/rndblog/blog1-a.php?pid=674

BernardButlersBra · 30/04/2025 15:46

2JFDIYOLO · 30/04/2025 13:20

Your poor, poor mum.

Having to cope with this while the pair of you squirm out of helping her.

Words fail me.

OP isn't squirming out of helping -she's already done it twice this week and she only posted this morning

Wonderingwhyyy · 30/04/2025 15:42

Ohnobackagain · 30/04/2025 15:40

I was going to say this @LegoTherapy @NimbleBee - it isn’t women’s work, but many men would not want an unrelated man helping with intimate care. But obviously OP, your Mum needs help!

The Mum can get help from her sunbathing husband. He can easily put a wash on and help with other non intimate care tasks.

He can help his wife!

ButterCrackers · 30/04/2025 15:42

lifeonmars100 · 30/04/2025 15:35

He is dying, it is not as if you are going to face endless years of this. Yes. I understand that is not pleasant but think about your mum, step up and help her.

Do you think that the op hasn’t helped at all? How sad that you can’t acknowledge that she’s been helping. That’s women kicking other women down and helping men stay away from getting involved.

Wonderingwhyyy · 30/04/2025 15:42

Epidote · 30/04/2025 15:37

As you had said your grandad is terminally ill and incontinent your mum needs help to change the bed.
I would help her. This is not about what others doesn't do. It is about what you can do about it. Unless you live like 20 miles away or have a something that doesn't allow you to move bedding around I think you are making the wrong decision.

The OP's mum seems to think this is women's work too. She is asking OP for the third time this week and not her sunbathing husband. He is clearly making the wrong decision not to help.

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