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DS’s school friend made a mess of our toilet and his Mum has defended him

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LeahYoga · 29/04/2025 22:49

DS had a friend round after school today (they are secondary school age). When he left, I had reason to use the upstairs bathroom and the toilet was completely covered in crap, skid marks everywhere. I immediately asked DS if he knew anything about this and he told me it was his friend who used it but he hadn’t mentioned any mess afterwards.

There’s a toilet brush in there and I don’t think it should be beyond the ability of a young teenager to clean up after themselves. My DS certainly would.

I messaged his Mum to politely say that if her son was to visit again, I’d appreciate him cleaning up after himself if/when needed. She sent me a bit of a shitty reply (pun not intended), along the lines of I should be glad I’ve only got one DS rather than the three she has as she has to put up with all sorts as the only female in the household. Then she had the cheek to say I could have cleaned it in the time it took me to message her! With two laughing emoji’s. Which isn’t the point. No apology at all.

AIBU to tell my DS he isn’t to invite him round again?

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AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 30/04/2025 00:09

In an ideal world they would do this, but my DH occasionally fails to use the toilet brush, so I can forgive a teen. He might have been nervous to do it (kids can get nervous about weird things).

This thread has opened my eyes a bit though... decorative brush?! And I also think that brushes are pretty unhygienic - I don't know if I'd like just anybody using them as they can catch on the rim and spray grossness around.

I thought you meant shit on the walls and stuff, but in the toilet, well, it's the place for it.

happyhermione · 30/04/2025 00:09

SouthLondonMum22 · 29/04/2025 23:57

I wonder if any of the responses would be different if it was a teen girl. Girls seem to be held up to a higher standard than boys and boys are taught that girls/women will just clean up after them. Girls are taught to be quiet and accept it.

Those arguing that OP made a feminist move are forgetting that … OP texted his mum about the shit. Not his dad! Obviously it’s the woman’s fault!

Having worked a lot with teenage girls - and been one - I can confirm they are just as gross. Nobody’s parent of either sex should be texted though!

shuggles · 30/04/2025 00:06

@324GG And it will surprise you that most teens can clean up their own shitty skid marks, and if not, deserved to be called out on their disgusting, lazy behaviour

Perhaps the teen is more hygienic than OP, and simply decided not to use the disgusting toilet brush.

Screamingabdabz · 30/04/2025 00:06

What a shame that it’s still the social norm for women to have to clear up the literal faeces of males that people are baffled it’s even an issue and that op should just clean and stfu. His parents should be teaching him these things YANBU.

Haveacuppaandwaitforthistoblowover · 30/04/2025 00:05

Shitty reply had me 🤣

Nah you are not being unreasonable at all, basic manners!
His mums reply is mental! I'd be sweating apologies had I received such a message!

JandamiHash · 30/04/2025 00:00

I’m assuming people saying the DS should “Have a word” with his mate have never met a teenager. If I told my 11yo to talk to her mates about shot stains I think she’d sooner throw herself out of her window

JandamiHash · 29/04/2025 23:58

SouthLondonMum22 · 29/04/2025 23:57

I wonder if any of the responses would be different if it was a teen girl. Girls seem to be held up to a higher standard than boys and boys are taught that girls/women will just clean up after them. Girls are taught to be quiet and accept it.

I said that earlier and I reckon nobody would be saying she’d deserve to be humiliated over it

JifNtGif · 29/04/2025 23:58

LeahYoga · 29/04/2025 23:11

Me mentioning it to him myself would be the more embarrassing option, so I don’t think that’s appropriate and a polite message to the Mum sufficed.

You are completely wrong to message his mum. It's unnecessary and embarrassing. 81% of people here also think this.

Imonlyhappywhenitrains · 29/04/2025 23:58

Yep its gross and no you shouldn't have to deal with it, but it would have been better to get your son to deal with it. Both the cleaning and having a word.
I bet the family will be chuckling about this for years to come, it will become part of their family lore, 'Hey do you remember that time when that mate of your's mum texted Mum because you left a...'

EmeraldShamrock000 · 29/04/2025 23:57

This all reminds me of my DDs friend, he used several of my mothers giant 1980s sanitary pads to wipe his arse, my DF had to unblock the toilet, neither parent happy.
Classic. 😅

SouthLondonMum22 · 29/04/2025 23:57

AliceMcK · 29/04/2025 23:53

Agree with @SouthLondonMum22 , if my 7yo dd can clean her own skid marks and shit up it shouldn’t be a problem for a teenager.

All my DDs have been taught to check the toilet and clean it if they do a shit, even if it involves multiple flushes.

Before anyone starts on my 7yo DDs using bleach, she dosnt, I keep washing up liquid in the bathroom cabinet, she put some in a jug fills with hot water and pours into the toilet washing off skid marks.

This all reminds me of my DDs friend, he used several of my mothers giant 1980s sanitary pads to wipe his arse, my DF had to unblock the toilet, neither parent happy.

I wonder if any of the responses would be different if it was a teen girl. Girls seem to be held up to a higher standard than boys and boys are taught that girls/women will just clean up after them. Girls are taught to be quiet and accept it.

JandamiHash · 29/04/2025 23:55

AliceMcK · 29/04/2025 23:53

Agree with @SouthLondonMum22 , if my 7yo dd can clean her own skid marks and shit up it shouldn’t be a problem for a teenager.

All my DDs have been taught to check the toilet and clean it if they do a shit, even if it involves multiple flushes.

Before anyone starts on my 7yo DDs using bleach, she dosnt, I keep washing up liquid in the bathroom cabinet, she put some in a jug fills with hot water and pours into the toilet washing off skid marks.

This all reminds me of my DDs friend, he used several of my mothers giant 1980s sanitary pads to wipe his arse, my DF had to unblock the toilet, neither parent happy.

Sorry but your last paragraph really made me laugh! Could he not find the toilet roll?!

BusyMum47 · 29/04/2025 23:55

@LeahYoga

You're clearly sure you haven't been unreasonable at all so not sure why you even bothered posting.

He's a teenage boy - they don't notice stuff like that - he didn't do it on purpose & wasn't intentionally disrespectful. Your reaction was ridiculous.

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CookieCrumbles23 · 29/04/2025 23:53

OP, can I give you my MIL’s number please? My Husband leaves skids in our toilet, drives me bloody mad! I think his Mum should know. TIA

AliceMcK · 29/04/2025 23:53

Agree with @SouthLondonMum22 , if my 7yo dd can clean her own skid marks and shit up it shouldn’t be a problem for a teenager.

All my DDs have been taught to check the toilet and clean it if they do a shit, even if it involves multiple flushes.

Before anyone starts on my 7yo DDs using bleach, she dosnt, I keep washing up liquid in the bathroom cabinet, she put some in a jug fills with hot water and pours into the toilet washing off skid marks.

This all reminds me of my DDs friend, he used several of my mothers giant 1980s sanitary pads to wipe his arse, my DF had to unblock the toilet, neither parent happy.

EndlessTreadmill · 29/04/2025 23:51

I think you did the right thing, but not having him round again is probably overkill.

She probably mentioned it to him, and he may be more careful next time.
I would give him the benefit of the doubt one more time. If he does it again, then no (maybe check the loos discretely before he leaves your house, so you can speak to him directly if need be.)

EmeraldShamrock000 · 29/04/2025 23:51

I wouldn't have texted his mother.
I'd either stop him visiting or direct him towards the bleach and antibacterial wipes.
I couldn't trust him to clean a toilet brush afterwards, my toilet brush is a decorative piece, not for use, I'd be more angry if someone used my brush.

VK456 · 29/04/2025 23:49

I’d have been so embarrassed if my Mum had done anything like this.
Your poor son!

JandamiHash · 29/04/2025 23:49

Cardamompelly · 29/04/2025 23:48

I have honestly never encountered skid marks of the variety that feature heavily on Mumsnet, and I have a large family. I’ve never really met a skid mark that isn’t resolved by a squirt of bleach and an extra flush ?
The Mumsnet ones always sound as if they’re made of concrete or tar or something 🤔
Usually on here , a tradesman is the culprit.

I remember years ago a woman on MN actually cried and said she was experiencing trauma because a workman had a poo in her toilet 🤣 so inconsiderate of him not to just defy gravity it’s and hold it in as he worked.

Cardamompelly · 29/04/2025 23:48

I have honestly never encountered skid marks of the variety that feature heavily on Mumsnet, and I have a large family. I’ve never really met a skid mark that isn’t resolved by a squirt of bleach and an extra flush ?
The Mumsnet ones always sound as if they’re made of concrete or tar or something 🤔
Usually on here , a tradesman is the culprit.

StScholastica · 29/04/2025 23:48

I'm surprised you aren't getting more grief about having a toilet brush!.
I think it's very sweet that you think your own son would never do this! How would you know? Most people would never tell you. 😆

beesandstrawberries · 29/04/2025 23:46

From your title I got the impression that it was a primary school kid flinging poo around the room. Not a secondary school kid who used the bathroom as normal and left a few marks from where the toilet didn’t flush it all properly. You are massively unreasonable and a control freak. Your poor son is likely embarrassed that his friend is not going to want to come to his home again. You thought you was humiliating the poor boy but instead, you’ve only humiliated yourself

SouthLondonMum22 · 29/04/2025 23:46

JandamiHash · 29/04/2025 23:43

They’re not babies but they’re still very young in terms of social development - don’t be tricked into thinking they’re basically adults. They’re not.

Im pleased I’m not a germophobe who couldn’t get over something like this. Sounds like a stressful life

They are old enough to know that you don't leave your shit for others to clean.

I'm not a germaphobe but I'm also not a teenage boys maid.

Intranslation · 29/04/2025 23:45

So would I use the loo brush in someone else's house? Possibly, if it was easy to find. Would I use bleach etc in someone else's house? Definitely not, it's like going through someone's possessions.