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Owen Lawrence - Leeds crossbow misogynist

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SmegmaCausesBV · 29/04/2025 21:03

I searched but couldn't find a thread discussing this. There was apparently a "hate filled" manifesto on facebook before the attack in Leeds, where Owen used a crossbow to hit two women. He is a self-described misogynist and interested in the far right. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3evygw383eo

Often on here we talk about young men and boys and their misogynistic online presence but this guy was 38 - old enough to be a father himself and clearly not a respectable role model. AIBU to think the idea of men who are older retraining into teaching roles isn't going to magically reverse this and may indeed make it worse? This violent behaviour against women clearly spans all ages and the right wing authoritarians in particular. Does anyone know how men are still getting hold of crossbows after Labour were supposed to be banning them? Is anyone else becoming increasingly worried about the growing threat these men are posing to women out in public?

A man looking down at the camera. He has short grey hair and is wearing a black jacket with a hood which is zipped up.

Otley run crossbow attack suspect dies, police confirm

The 38-year-old posted online before the planned violence and listed his targets.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3evygw383eo

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OlympicProcrastinator · 19/09/2025 08:24

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I am not sure why you are telling us you have an infection and are obese. It’s not relevant to the thread.

ByGiddyMentor · 19/09/2025 08:05

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Trolleydolley · 12/05/2025 00:18

This man was clearly very seriously mentally ill - I think that’s the issue.

Tauranga · 12/05/2025 00:14

CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone · 11/05/2025 23:35

Your statistics are wrong, (or Scotland is 10x more violent per capita).

In 2021-22, there were 16 female victims of homicide in Scotland, representing 30% of the total homicide victims. Between 2019-20 and 2020-21, the number of female victims decreased by nine from 19 to 10. In 2022-23, 25% of homicide victims were female, and in 2023-24, the number of homicide incidents recorded by the police increased by 12%.

One per month - not three per week.

In England and Wales, the number of female homicide victims in the year ending March 2024 was 156. This represents a 10% decrease from the previous year. The Femicide Census collects data on women killed by men in the UK, and in 2021, they documented 147 such deaths. A significant portion of these femicides, around 53%, occur at the hands of current or former intimate partners.

Males are more likely to be victims of homicide than females, with an overall rate of 16 victims per million population in 2023-24. The equivalent rate for females was five victims per million population

Well spotted.
3 women killed every week in the UK.
Not Scotland. Apologies.

www.spa.police.uk/publication-library/violence-against-women-and-girls-public-briefing-february-2024/prevalence/

CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone · 11/05/2025 23:35

Tauranga · 29/04/2025 21:53

Most murdered women are murdered by men.
Left wing, right wing and in-between.
Christian, Hindu and Muslim.
All colours and creed.

It is unfair to say Reform and Andrew Tate lot.
It makes me think you are posting in bad faith.
I could tell you many ghastly and high profile murders committed by men who do not fit that description.

In Scotland 3 women are murdered a week. Usually by men.

Your statistics are wrong, (or Scotland is 10x more violent per capita).

In 2021-22, there were 16 female victims of homicide in Scotland, representing 30% of the total homicide victims. Between 2019-20 and 2020-21, the number of female victims decreased by nine from 19 to 10. In 2022-23, 25% of homicide victims were female, and in 2023-24, the number of homicide incidents recorded by the police increased by 12%.

One per month - not three per week.

In England and Wales, the number of female homicide victims in the year ending March 2024 was 156. This represents a 10% decrease from the previous year. The Femicide Census collects data on women killed by men in the UK, and in 2021, they documented 147 such deaths. A significant portion of these femicides, around 53%, occur at the hands of current or former intimate partners.

Males are more likely to be victims of homicide than females, with an overall rate of 16 victims per million population in 2023-24. The equivalent rate for females was five victims per million population

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SmegmaCausesBV · 10/05/2025 15:40

Wow, the thread must have touched a nerve in his online wanking circle.

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pointythings · 09/05/2025 21:11

Killing someone because you can't get a date seems like a bit of an overreaction to me...

MurnsnetUsersAreFat · 09/05/2025 21:01

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PonyPatter44 · 09/05/2025 19:30

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Incisive, rapier-like wit. I bet you're fighting the women off with a stick, aren't you?

CheekyTealBiscuit · 09/05/2025 18:31

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pointythings · 09/05/2025 18:17

And the thing is that males like that genuinely can't see that if only they abandoned their attitude and behaved like normal human beings, they'd have dates and be so much happier.

Just world fallacy. No one wants "sad losers" as you call them irrespective of what they say

CheekyTealBiscuit · 09/05/2025 18:30

Pomegranatecarnage · 04/05/2025 22:36

What should we do about young autistic men on the path to becoming incels?

Nothing.

UrsulasHerbBag · 09/05/2025 18:20

Y’all not Yall.

Sidebeforeself · 09/05/2025 18:19

Reported this thread before I keel over with boredom at the sad losers comments

pointythings · 09/05/2025 18:17

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/05/2025 18:08

Probably can't type it because his mum won't disable the Kid Friendly filter on his tablet.

And the thing is that males like that genuinely can't see that if only they abandoned their attitude and behaved like normal human beings, they'd have dates and be so much happier.

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/05/2025 18:08

KingscoteStaff · 09/05/2025 18:03

I think you spell whore with an o, not a zero.

Probably can't type it because his mum won't disable the Kid Friendly filter on his tablet.

KingscoteStaff · 09/05/2025 18:03

I think you spell whore with an o, not a zero.

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TweetingHurricane · 05/05/2025 17:22

Grotesque scum, glad he’s dead and hope he had a miserable life. 38 year old man upset that student girls don’t want him, grim. So glad no-one died.

JHound · 05/05/2025 17:15

Tauranga · 05/05/2025 16:51

But I see left wing men as Tran supporting, right on, misogynistic twits.
Left wing men are horrific. Labour has never had a woman leader for eg. Labour will not investigate rapes by Pakastanis incase they are racist. Labour are not interested in supporting women.
Right wing men get all the intellectual papers saying they are awful but my experience is left wing men throw women under the bus even faster.

Why did the Tories never investigate then?

And how does not having a female leader mean they are sexist?

Left wing men can absolutely be sexist but looking at society it’s definitely a strong link between conservative / right-wing politics and wanting to roll back women’s rights.