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Stepdaughter and Daughter's Wedding

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WickedMotherofthebride · 29/04/2025 14:00

Decided to become a member as it seems to be Stepchildren and wedding season on Mumsnet and sobbing uncontrollably to my sister isn't giving me the unbiased opinions I am after.
For the first time in our 22 year marriage my husband's ex invited him to dinner. We were very curious thinking she must be ill or something. I admit after a couple of hours I used my iphone to track him and he was at Charing Cross, then an hour later in the pub around the corner from us, he rarely drinks but came home the worse for wear and completely ashen.
Essentially if he goes ahead to walk my daughter down the aisle he can say goodbye to a relationship with his own daughter who is apparently devastated by this. Something that has been confirmed by his son.
I am one of those women who let a loser impregnate her, I thought the odd splif wasn't a big deal but he turned into an absolute stonehead who was in and out of my daughter's life until she was 8 when I married my husband. I don't know if her father's absence and my getting married was a coincidence but I think it was.
My husband is to all intents and purposes her dad.
At 15 a strange man arrived at the door wanting me to talk to him without my daughter present., obviously I wouldn't but my husband went out. It was the husband of my daughter's aunt to tell us that her dad had died.
She was given the chance to have a relationship with her family but chose not to saying that my husband was her dad.
Stepdaughter has a long term partner but there are no wedding bells.
My husband is adamant now that he can't give my daughter away something that I will not forgive him for. In fact I will divorce him if he doesn't.
The wedding is in 18 weeks.

OP posts:
InterIgnis · 29/04/2025 16:27

Finallydoingit24 · 29/04/2025 16:12

Would you feel the same if the DH and the OP had had a child together so the DH was actually the child’s biological dad and this stroppy madam issued a similar ultimatum? Because according to Mumsnet, having a second family is also deeply traumatic for children, arguably more so than a stepfamily. The point is that you have to get over it when you are an adult. You can’t simply throw around ultimatums where you want to be the centre of the universe. As a child you don’t dictate how your parents live their lives or how many children they have.

I bet you anything this is jealousy about her not getting married first. Maybe her boyfriend has said he never wants to get married so she is intent on ruining her stepsisters wedding.

If he had a daughter with OP that would be his child, so a completely different scenario. OP’s DD isn’t his child.

She doesn’t have to get over anything, and she can and did ‘throw around ultimatums’. Not wanting people to be able to do things you don’t like doesn’t mean they can’t do them, any more than not thinking you should have to face any negative consequences means you can duck them.

Even if she is a ‘spoilt, stroppy madam’, she is his child and he loves her. He is not prepared to lose his relationship with her in order to act as a father to his stepdaughter.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 29/04/2025 16:26

The OP's dh's daughter is being immature and unreasonable. He should walk her down the aisle.

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 29/04/2025 16:24

Crazyworldmum · 29/04/2025 16:17

But what other thing is their man not allowed to do from here ? Will the ops grandchildren be able to call him grandad as a example or only her children , or will he from now on be conditioned by a spoiled adult brat ?

Those are good points. The old, "If you give a mouse a cookie...he'll want" type of behavior is difficult to stop once it starts. They think, it worked once, so I'll keep going, until life is unbearable for everyone except the one making the demands.

I still feel, though, that Mom could walk her down the aisle, both SD and OP can say, "we do" when asked who gives the bride away, and the OP's DH could be the father-of-the-bride for the rest of the evening (dance, toast, etc). I still, also feel, that OP's SD should not be invited to the wedding. Her behavior has already shown what type of person she is, and no one needs that kind of crazy-azzed antics at their wedding.

UndermyShoeJoe · 29/04/2025 16:24

I doubt ops going to give up the reason but his daughter is clearly very upset and to be a good parent he needs to talk to her about it but honestly I think most parents would put their biological child above another when push comes to shove.

Just like this father wants to put his child above ops when push comes to shove.

Finallydoingit24 · 29/04/2025 16:23

Crazyworldmum · 29/04/2025 16:19

And will just be the start of it . The step daughters kids will never be able to be grandchildren either I bet . I can’t grasp this sort of crap from a adult woman

Of course they won’t. There will be tears and devastation if they ever call him grandad. If he visits his stepdaughter in hospital after birth, the DD will be heartbroken. I’m quite shocked that people think this is normal behaviour and justified. It’s very much not normal and extremely disturbing/horrible for her to put her dad in that position. It’s clearly being done purely to cause maximum hurt.

CrazyCatMom · 29/04/2025 16:23

Finallydoingit24 · 29/04/2025 16:18

Lol as if the DD will accept that. And I’m pretty sure a registrar doesn’t ask this (it’s incredibly archaic for a vicar to ask it too).

Got married 2.5 years ago and it was part of our wedding service, and a proud moment for my parents.

I suspect after this the SD won’t be attending the wedding anyway, so as long as he isn’t walking DD down the aisle then it is none of her business 🤷🏼‍♀️

InterIgnis · 29/04/2025 16:22

Finallydoingit24 · 29/04/2025 16:16

Also those who are suggesting he gives a speech instead - obviously Miss MeMeMe won’t like that either and will be “devastated”. If he gives in to this then I bet you anything he won’t even attend the wedding because she will know that her threats work. He should have calmly shut it down and said “that is ridiculous and it’s a shame that you are prepared to take this drastic action over this but it’s your choice”. And then let her choose. Not given into it. There will be more ultimatums down the line - guaranteed. She sounds very bitter.

Obviously he isn’t prepared to live with the consequences of doing that. Feeling righteous about ‘not giving in’ is not worth losing his child for.

Bushmillsbabe · 29/04/2025 16:22

Cynic17 · 29/04/2025 14:34

A modern woman doesn't need to be given away by a man, FFS. Just let your daughter walk down the aisle solo/with bridesmaids/with her fiance. There doesn't need to be all this ridiculous drama.

It's not ridiculous if it's something OP's daughter genuinely wants. I am a 'modern women' but I still wanted my Dad to walk my down the aisle. Maybe not the 'giving away' part, but definitely the walking part, it was really important to me, it was symbolic of my transition from my unmarried life to my married life, and also the part where my Dad hugged my DH at the top of the aisle felt like him welcome DH into our family. Yes, it's a bit twee and traditional, but it's not ridiculous

InterIgnis · 29/04/2025 16:19

Crazyworldmum · 29/04/2025 16:13

Only one of them is being a brat ? Sorry why does it have to be one or the other ? And why do you think he doesn’t see her a daughter too ? My husband treats his exs son as his own and they had one together , he is treated the same way as his brother is and the same way he now treats my own children his step kids and none of the kids would even bat an eyelid about him doing any expected fatherly duty because they all know they share him and his love . Why is this daughter behaving so badly ? Because if he was a terrible dad then for sure she ou isn’t what him walking her down the aisle either .

Because those are the circumstances. If he chooses to walk his stepdaughter down the aisle, he loses his daughter. He doesn’t get to have both, regardless of whether you think he should be able to.

Why isn’t the stepdaughter performing happy families like you think she should in an ideal world? Because this is the world that is, not the world that ‘should’ be.

He isn’t the father of OP’s DD, biologically or legally. He has chosen his daughter. He’s adamantly told OP that he won’t be walking her daughter down the aisle.

Crazyworldmum · 29/04/2025 16:19

Finallydoingit24 · 29/04/2025 16:16

Also those who are suggesting he gives a speech instead - obviously Miss MeMeMe won’t like that either and will be “devastated”. If he gives in to this then I bet you anything he won’t even attend the wedding because she will know that her threats work. He should have calmly shut it down and said “that is ridiculous and it’s a shame that you are prepared to take this drastic action over this but it’s your choice”. And then let her choose. Not given into it. There will be more ultimatums down the line - guaranteed. She sounds very bitter.

And will just be the start of it . The step daughters kids will never be able to be grandchildren either I bet . I can’t grasp this sort of crap from a adult woman

Finallydoingit24 · 29/04/2025 16:18

CrazyCatMom · 29/04/2025 16:16

How about you walk her down the aisle, but when the vicar/registrar asks who brings your daughter to be married you both stand with her and say “we do”?

My dad walked me down the aisle, we met my mom at the altar and they both gave me away. My preference

Lol as if the DD will accept that. And I’m pretty sure a registrar doesn’t ask this (it’s incredibly archaic for a vicar to ask it too).

AthWat · 29/04/2025 16:18

If your husband's ex pulled a gun on him and threatened to shoot him unless he said he always loved her most, would your reaction be to pull your own gun and threaten to shoot him if he did say it?
That's pretty much what you are doing here. Not attempting to help him find a way out of it, just making it a situation where he can't possibly win.

Crazyworldmum · 29/04/2025 16:17

gannett · 29/04/2025 16:11

On the face of it the stepdaughter is wildly unreasonable.

But symbolic things like this just aren't worth causing so much drama over, let alone threatening divorce.

If he doesn't give the daughter away, take a step back and ask yourself: does that really matter?

What matters is that he loves her and supports her. That's shown in his actions 365 days per year, not in one gesture on one day. What's important is that her marriage is a strong one. Your happiness and her happiness don't rest on a 5-minute ritual.

But what other thing is their man not allowed to do from here ? Will the ops grandchildren be able to call him grandad as a example or only her children , or will he from now on be conditioned by a spoiled adult brat ?

CrazyCatMom · 29/04/2025 16:16

How about you walk her down the aisle, but when the vicar/registrar asks who brings your daughter to be married you both stand with her and say “we do”?

My dad walked me down the aisle, we met my mom at the altar and they both gave me away. My preference

Finallydoingit24 · 29/04/2025 16:16

Also those who are suggesting he gives a speech instead - obviously Miss MeMeMe won’t like that either and will be “devastated”. If he gives in to this then I bet you anything he won’t even attend the wedding because she will know that her threats work. He should have calmly shut it down and said “that is ridiculous and it’s a shame that you are prepared to take this drastic action over this but it’s your choice”. And then let her choose. Not given into it. There will be more ultimatums down the line - guaranteed. She sounds very bitter.

unlikelywitch · 29/04/2025 16:15

There’s definitely a huge backstory here. I suspect this is the straw that broke the camel’s back after many years of being second best to a part-time dad.

BreadInCaptivity · 29/04/2025 16:14

nomas · 29/04/2025 15:46

Yet another thread that proves MN hypocrisy. Step-mums are always told that once they take on a step-child they have to treat them like their own, but here a step-dad is being excused of treatIng his step-dd as his own.

Yes….the double standards are quite apparent.

Crazyworldmum · 29/04/2025 16:13

InterIgnis · 29/04/2025 16:06

Very easy to say when you’re not facing it being a reality. This is his daughter, his only daughter, and despite him being in OP’s daughter life for 22 years, she isn’t his child, and he isn’t prepared to lose his own child/ren to walk her down the aisle.

It’s also easy to dismiss this as a childish strop that of course she’ll get over, rather than see it as years of hurt reaching a boiling point.

Only one of them is being a brat ? Sorry why does it have to be one or the other ? And why do you think he doesn’t see her a daughter too ? My husband treats his exs son as his own and they had one together , he is treated the same way as his brother is and the same way he now treats my own children his step kids and none of the kids would even bat an eyelid about him doing any expected fatherly duty because they all know they share him and his love . Why is this daughter behaving so badly ? Because if he was a terrible dad then for sure she ou isn’t what him walking her down the aisle either .

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 29/04/2025 16:13

Finallydoingit24 · 29/04/2025 15:41

It’s not understandable at all. Most people wouldn’t dream of acting like this woman is. As the OP and her DH have been married 22 years, the DD is presumably at least mid 20s and probably older. It’s ridiculous. It sounds like she’s planning on attending the wedding too but she wants to mess it up.

If the OP's DD has someone else walk her down the aisle, I do hope OP's DD is smart enough to not invite her "lovely, deranged, mentally unhealthy" step-sister to her wedding. After all, according to many posters here, she isn't REALLY family, so no need to invite her. Avoid her drama and possible temper tantrums and have the stepdaughter/sister stay home.

OP--I would walk your DD down the aisle as I think that's a very special token of how close the two of you are. I wouldn't hold it against your DH, because he is between a rock and a hard place. I would, however, think a lot less of my SD and not bend over backwards for her if the need ever arose.

Finallydoingit24 · 29/04/2025 16:12

InterIgnis · 29/04/2025 16:06

Very easy to say when you’re not facing it being a reality. This is his daughter, his only daughter, and despite him being in OP’s daughter life for 22 years, she isn’t his child, and he isn’t prepared to lose his own child/ren to walk her down the aisle.

It’s also easy to dismiss this as a childish strop that of course she’ll get over, rather than see it as years of hurt reaching a boiling point.

Would you feel the same if the DH and the OP had had a child together so the DH was actually the child’s biological dad and this stroppy madam issued a similar ultimatum? Because according to Mumsnet, having a second family is also deeply traumatic for children, arguably more so than a stepfamily. The point is that you have to get over it when you are an adult. You can’t simply throw around ultimatums where you want to be the centre of the universe. As a child you don’t dictate how your parents live their lives or how many children they have.

I bet you anything this is jealousy about her not getting married first. Maybe her boyfriend has said he never wants to get married so she is intent on ruining her stepsisters wedding.

gannett · 29/04/2025 16:11

On the face of it the stepdaughter is wildly unreasonable.

But symbolic things like this just aren't worth causing so much drama over, let alone threatening divorce.

If he doesn't give the daughter away, take a step back and ask yourself: does that really matter?

What matters is that he loves her and supports her. That's shown in his actions 365 days per year, not in one gesture on one day. What's important is that her marriage is a strong one. Your happiness and her happiness don't rest on a 5-minute ritual.

Neveragain35 · 29/04/2025 16:11

What is the relationship between your DD and SD like? Perhaps they need to discuss it between themselves.

Could an option be that you and DH walk DD down the aisle together?

Genevieva · 29/04/2025 16:10

Your emotions are not unreasonable, but you have to think about what you can and cannot control and how best to manage what you can control. You, your husband and your daughter can be a team in how you handle this.

  1. Your husband hasn’t spoken to his daughter yet. Only her Mum. He needs to keep communications with her open. He needs to hear what her reasoning is and explain why he thinks he should walk his stepdaughter down the aisle.
  2. Is stepdaughter coming? I’d assume not if she hates her step sister so much that she would seek to deny her this.

I am now going to suggest another option. Wonderful as her step dad had been to her, he is not her dad. You are her Mum. You should walk her down the aisle. Your husband should be there in the pews waiting for you and looking in proudly at his wife and stepdaughter.

InterIgnis · 29/04/2025 16:07

Crazyworldmum · 29/04/2025 16:04

Why ? Can’t he walk both ?

Obviously not.

InterIgnis · 29/04/2025 16:06

Biker47 · 29/04/2025 15:58

Yes, like I said, it's manipulative, and childish and I can't abide that, he's known this girl and for all intents and purposes sounds like he's been her dad for at least 22 years, and the other daughter wants to have a childish strop because he's going to do something as innocuous as walk his step-daughter down the aisle at her wedding.

What's the daughter going to do next, disown him if he's seated at the top table, has a dance with his step daughter?

Very easy to say when you’re not facing it being a reality. This is his daughter, his only daughter, and despite him being in OP’s daughter life for 22 years, she isn’t his child, and he isn’t prepared to lose his own child/ren to walk her down the aisle.

It’s also easy to dismiss this as a childish strop that of course she’ll get over, rather than see it as years of hurt reaching a boiling point.