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Stepdaughter and Daughter's Wedding

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WickedMotherofthebride · 29/04/2025 14:00

Decided to become a member as it seems to be Stepchildren and wedding season on Mumsnet and sobbing uncontrollably to my sister isn't giving me the unbiased opinions I am after.
For the first time in our 22 year marriage my husband's ex invited him to dinner. We were very curious thinking she must be ill or something. I admit after a couple of hours I used my iphone to track him and he was at Charing Cross, then an hour later in the pub around the corner from us, he rarely drinks but came home the worse for wear and completely ashen.
Essentially if he goes ahead to walk my daughter down the aisle he can say goodbye to a relationship with his own daughter who is apparently devastated by this. Something that has been confirmed by his son.
I am one of those women who let a loser impregnate her, I thought the odd splif wasn't a big deal but he turned into an absolute stonehead who was in and out of my daughter's life until she was 8 when I married my husband. I don't know if her father's absence and my getting married was a coincidence but I think it was.
My husband is to all intents and purposes her dad.
At 15 a strange man arrived at the door wanting me to talk to him without my daughter present., obviously I wouldn't but my husband went out. It was the husband of my daughter's aunt to tell us that her dad had died.
She was given the chance to have a relationship with her family but chose not to saying that my husband was her dad.
Stepdaughter has a long term partner but there are no wedding bells.
My husband is adamant now that he can't give my daughter away something that I will not forgive him for. In fact I will divorce him if he doesn't.
The wedding is in 18 weeks.

OP posts:
JenniferBooth · 20/05/2025 17:37

moveoveralice · 20/05/2025 17:21

There is a history of the step children declining to stay, the cruel quips about B-Tech Betty and now this demand... I would guess they have disliked the OP's dd since first meeting.

I do not lack imagination, I lack tolerance for petty bull shit.

You invest a lot of time in these threads @InterIgnis. I have recognised your name all over another similar thread too recently.

Even if pp's are making comparisons that aren't entirely the same, I suspect they are a lot more genuine on this that you are being. Just a hunch.

You can so tell the posters that would be blaming the victim for standing up to the bully if this was a school bullying scenario. The same mentality can be seen clearly.

moveoveralice · 20/05/2025 17:21

InterIgnis · 20/05/2025 15:25

Because he’d be sharing a special father-daughter moment with someone that isn’t his daughter. It has a deeper meaning for her than it does for you, clearly. That OP’s daughter fatherless is irrelevant, it doesn’t mean her stepdaughter is required to be okay with him doing that.

You failing to comprehend that her motivations could be anything other than spite and/or a desire to sabotage and control reflects only a lack of imagination on your part. Not even OP thinks this is about spite, and she actually knows the girl.

There is a history of the step children declining to stay, the cruel quips about B-Tech Betty and now this demand... I would guess they have disliked the OP's dd since first meeting.

I do not lack imagination, I lack tolerance for petty bull shit.

You invest a lot of time in these threads @InterIgnis. I have recognised your name all over another similar thread too recently.

Even if pp's are making comparisons that aren't entirely the same, I suspect they are a lot more genuine on this that you are being. Just a hunch.

commonsense61 · 20/05/2025 16:40

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Crazyworldmum · 20/05/2025 16:39

DontReplyIWillLie · 20/05/2025 14:38

These posts from people trying to be all no nonsense saying “Well DH and I would NEVER stand for that from our kids - they would be told straight!” make me laugh. Because they’re all immediately caveated with “But of course, my kids would never behave like that”. So if you’re 99% certain this situation would never happen to you, how do you actually know how you’d handle it?

I reckon a lot of you might feel very differently if your child actually told you they’d be really hurt by this, to the point of it being a deal breaker.

Yes do do know how I would handle it and I know how hubby would handle it , we also have adult children already , we are a united front when it comes to big decisions and hubby absolutely will not be blackmailed , in a case like this I would probably deal with better than him as there is no way he would put up with this sort of ridiculous behaviour .
If this was to happen in the future he 100% would reply , “ I love you very much but I’m still doing it “ , I don’t think the kids would cut contact with him that easily as they are very close to us anyway .

JenniferBooth · 20/05/2025 16:24

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 20/05/2025 11:26

I guess I feel sorry for DD. Her dad died and she has to watch her stepdad doing all the fatherly things with his dd, driving home the point she doesn’t have a dad.

my dad died as a child. These events which he should be there for, my wedding, my child, hit hard.

i didn’t want to walk down the aisle on my own. I didn’t want to walk with my mum either. If you’re going traditional, wrongly or rightly, this just seemed wrong. I have no brothers, no uncles I’m close to. They have their own kids anyway so from this thread it would have been a massive no no to ask them.

so right from the start I couldn’t have the wedding I wanted. We ended up at Gretna green with strangers as witnesses. I still mourn the lovely church wedding and wedding dress I never got to have.

i have missed out on so much with no dad. If the SD can’t see that she is lucky to still have a living dad and has no empathy for her step sibling, well it’s not someone I’d want a relationship with.

i know it’s not top trumps in these situations but come on, I’d have gone for my dad leaving over dying every day.

Hear hear Im so sorry about your dad Flowers I lost my lovely dad to prostate cancer last October. He was 88 so i had him until my fifties and he did give me away at my wedding. Miss him very much.

LunaMay · 20/05/2025 16:00

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 20/05/2025 15:38

And another child watching the other have a relationship with both her biological mum and dad. Which she doesn’t and can never have.

I understand the step sister may be pissed off, but she doesn’t appear have one scrap of empathy for a child who has lost her father as a teenager.

maybe she should think for one second how she’d feel if her dad had died.

Come on now, they weren't close She hadn't even seen him for 7 years? Again people are comparing different things.

StClabberts · 20/05/2025 15:54

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 20/05/2025 15:38

And another child watching the other have a relationship with both her biological mum and dad. Which she doesn’t and can never have.

I understand the step sister may be pissed off, but she doesn’t appear have one scrap of empathy for a child who has lost her father as a teenager.

maybe she should think for one second how she’d feel if her dad had died.

This doesn't relate to the post you've quoted, which is about how the posters who are talking about their own DHs are missing the point.

Regardless of what you think of the behaviour of any of the people in this situation, people citing men who are good fathers and good stepfathers are not comparing like with like. This DH isn't one of those.

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 20/05/2025 15:38

StClabberts · 20/05/2025 14:57

Yep! What we have here is a child who didn't get to live with her father whilst another child did. A man living with his DC and DSC and doing a good job with both is not the same thing.

And another child watching the other have a relationship with both her biological mum and dad. Which she doesn’t and can never have.

I understand the step sister may be pissed off, but she doesn’t appear have one scrap of empathy for a child who has lost her father as a teenager.

maybe she should think for one second how she’d feel if her dad had died.

InterIgnis · 20/05/2025 15:25

moveoveralice · 20/05/2025 09:02

Personally, I am baffled why anyone thinks DH is relegating his own DD to a lower status by simply walking the fatherless woman, he has helped raise, down the aisle.

Again, I really hope the OP's daughter uninvites the noxious SD and sibling.

The excuses trotted out over the feelings of the SD are stretches at best. This is about spite and exerting complete control over part of an event they wish to sabotage.

If either of my daughters behaved like this I would laugh and suggest they take themselves off for a proper think. However, I am certain that they aren't capable of this level of malice over what is, just a nice gesture.

Because he’d be sharing a special father-daughter moment with someone that isn’t his daughter. It has a deeper meaning for her than it does for you, clearly. That OP’s daughter fatherless is irrelevant, it doesn’t mean her stepdaughter is required to be okay with him doing that.

You failing to comprehend that her motivations could be anything other than spite and/or a desire to sabotage and control reflects only a lack of imagination on your part. Not even OP thinks this is about spite, and she actually knows the girl.

Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 20/05/2025 15:01

Crazyworldmum · 20/05/2025 12:22

Having discussed this post with my hubby ( he is a step dad to my daughter since she was 3 and we have another daughter together) he looked at me like if I was crazy for even asking . In his words if this was ever an issue then he would put her right in his place and would be told to get over herself . There is no way he would tolerate this level of blackmail but as you say none of our kids or stepkids would do this . They all have been brought up better and if they did then they would have the consequences for it .

@CrazyCatMom that is different. Both girls are your daughters and they are legitimately sisters. They have been raised together, in the same house with the same father. There is no need for resentment.

Op's stepdaughter was at least partially abandoned by her father, while he was a full-time, live-in parent to another girl. He is tolerating her behaviour because he knows he fucked-up and let her down. It doesn't sound like your husband has any compensating to do, and under your girls' circumstances it doesn't sound like anyone has been hard done by because of your husband's actions.

If OPs husband were to pick his stepdaughter over his real daughter (in her mind), it would understandably be the final nail in the coffin. He might be a good stepfather, but he would be an absolute bastard of a father if he didn't concede this to her now. She clearly has been damaged by the situation and this is how it is manifesting. It's weird how so many people are glossing over the fact that he may have been a bit of an inadequate father in order to judge this poor woman for the trauma she has suffered because of him, OP and OPs daughter usurping her, in her mind.

StClabberts · 20/05/2025 14:57

Anxioustealady · 20/05/2025 14:41

Also a lot of them are misunderstanding the situation and comparing it to themselves and their cousins, or older stepsister, when they were raised with their dad living with them full time. So completely irrelevant!

Yep! What we have here is a child who didn't get to live with her father whilst another child did. A man living with his DC and DSC and doing a good job with both is not the same thing.

SerafinasGoose · 20/05/2025 14:46

JenniferBooth · 19/05/2025 23:08

I think its lovely too, But im merely pointing out that the rest of the world doesnt think the same way that MN feminists do Im simply being realistic

The whole of the 'rest of the world' doesn't hold one hegemonic viewpoint. In many cultures it's not customary for women to relinquish their names on marriage, for example. It's now far more common for couples to retain their names, double-barrell or portmanteau into a new one. Same with brides walking into venues with their mums, together with their grooms or on their own, or to make speeches at their own receptions rather than sitting in silence looking decorative.

That it's expected in some quarters for 'traditions' to be upheld is to my mind good enough reason for not upholding them. As modern weddings show , they are increasingly not being upheld, because there is no one 'correct' way to do these things. In 2025, I suspect that the absence of a male to walk a bride to her groom is unlikely to invite comment, gossip and speculation.

Cultures evolve.

Anxioustealady · 20/05/2025 14:41

DontReplyIWillLie · 20/05/2025 14:38

These posts from people trying to be all no nonsense saying “Well DH and I would NEVER stand for that from our kids - they would be told straight!” make me laugh. Because they’re all immediately caveated with “But of course, my kids would never behave like that”. So if you’re 99% certain this situation would never happen to you, how do you actually know how you’d handle it?

I reckon a lot of you might feel very differently if your child actually told you they’d be really hurt by this, to the point of it being a deal breaker.

Also a lot of them are misunderstanding the situation and comparing it to themselves and their cousins, or older stepsister, when they were raised with their dad living with them full time. So completely irrelevant!

DontReplyIWillLie · 20/05/2025 14:38

Crazyworldmum · 20/05/2025 12:22

Having discussed this post with my hubby ( he is a step dad to my daughter since she was 3 and we have another daughter together) he looked at me like if I was crazy for even asking . In his words if this was ever an issue then he would put her right in his place and would be told to get over herself . There is no way he would tolerate this level of blackmail but as you say none of our kids or stepkids would do this . They all have been brought up better and if they did then they would have the consequences for it .

These posts from people trying to be all no nonsense saying “Well DH and I would NEVER stand for that from our kids - they would be told straight!” make me laugh. Because they’re all immediately caveated with “But of course, my kids would never behave like that”. So if you’re 99% certain this situation would never happen to you, how do you actually know how you’d handle it?

I reckon a lot of you might feel very differently if your child actually told you they’d be really hurt by this, to the point of it being a deal breaker.

Diarygirlqueen · 20/05/2025 13:31

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 20/05/2025 12:40

It’s in the o/p

At 15 a strange man arrived at the door wanting me to talk to him without my daughter present., obviously I wouldn't but my husband went out. It was the husband of my daughter's aunt to tell us that her dad had died

Apologies.
I feel sorry for the daughter having no relationship since she was young with her father, although I do disagree with you on your point you made feeling sorry she sat watching her stepdad doing things with his own daughter. I don't get that vibe that this is what happened in this blended family. If anything, it sounded as if the SD has little to do with her father.

StClabberts · 20/05/2025 12:56

Crazyworldmum · 20/05/2025 12:22

Having discussed this post with my hubby ( he is a step dad to my daughter since she was 3 and we have another daughter together) he looked at me like if I was crazy for even asking . In his words if this was ever an issue then he would put her right in his place and would be told to get over herself . There is no way he would tolerate this level of blackmail but as you say none of our kids or stepkids would do this . They all have been brought up better and if they did then they would have the consequences for it .

Your situation is quite different. Not only does your DH not have another bio daughter elsewhere outside the household who he spends much less time with than a DSC, but you say he's been a very involved father.

There have been a number of posts from people in blended families saying this would never happen with them and their DH is a great dad/stepdad. They're all missing the point, because this DH isn't.

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 20/05/2025 12:40

Diarygirlqueen · 20/05/2025 11:39

@Whatsgoingonherethenagain I don't think the DD dad has died, he is just not in her life.
From what I interpret, it's the SD who had to watch her dad doing things with the DD.

It’s in the o/p

At 15 a strange man arrived at the door wanting me to talk to him without my daughter present., obviously I wouldn't but my husband went out. It was the husband of my daughter's aunt to tell us that her dad had died

Crazyworldmum · 20/05/2025 12:22

moveoveralice · 20/05/2025 09:02

Personally, I am baffled why anyone thinks DH is relegating his own DD to a lower status by simply walking the fatherless woman, he has helped raise, down the aisle.

Again, I really hope the OP's daughter uninvites the noxious SD and sibling.

The excuses trotted out over the feelings of the SD are stretches at best. This is about spite and exerting complete control over part of an event they wish to sabotage.

If either of my daughters behaved like this I would laugh and suggest they take themselves off for a proper think. However, I am certain that they aren't capable of this level of malice over what is, just a nice gesture.

Having discussed this post with my hubby ( he is a step dad to my daughter since she was 3 and we have another daughter together) he looked at me like if I was crazy for even asking . In his words if this was ever an issue then he would put her right in his place and would be told to get over herself . There is no way he would tolerate this level of blackmail but as you say none of our kids or stepkids would do this . They all have been brought up better and if they did then they would have the consequences for it .

LunaMay · 20/05/2025 11:56

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 20/05/2025 11:26

I guess I feel sorry for DD. Her dad died and she has to watch her stepdad doing all the fatherly things with his dd, driving home the point she doesn’t have a dad.

my dad died as a child. These events which he should be there for, my wedding, my child, hit hard.

i didn’t want to walk down the aisle on my own. I didn’t want to walk with my mum either. If you’re going traditional, wrongly or rightly, this just seemed wrong. I have no brothers, no uncles I’m close to. They have their own kids anyway so from this thread it would have been a massive no no to ask them.

so right from the start I couldn’t have the wedding I wanted. We ended up at Gretna green with strangers as witnesses. I still mourn the lovely church wedding and wedding dress I never got to have.

i have missed out on so much with no dad. If the SD can’t see that she is lucky to still have a living dad and has no empathy for her step sibling, well it’s not someone I’d want a relationship with.

i know it’s not top trumps in these situations but come on, I’d have gone for my dad leaving over dying every day.

Not to sound harsh, it's not the same thing.
It does not involve the same feelings and resentment to people that are around and involved in your life.
I actually wouldn't have had any issues with my dad walking a cousin down the aisle because again it's just different.
Perhaps proper expectations should have been explained to OP's daughter when she 'chose' to have nothing to do with her fathers family because she decided SF was 'her' dad. Maybe there was a few uncles on that side who could have done the deed....

Also i think you'll find that it was the daughter watching her father have a normal life with the step daughter going by OP posts.

Diarygirlqueen · 20/05/2025 11:39

@Whatsgoingonherethenagain I don't think the DD dad has died, he is just not in her life.
From what I interpret, it's the SD who had to watch her dad doing things with the DD.

Tbrh · 20/05/2025 11:38

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 20/05/2025 11:26

I guess I feel sorry for DD. Her dad died and she has to watch her stepdad doing all the fatherly things with his dd, driving home the point she doesn’t have a dad.

my dad died as a child. These events which he should be there for, my wedding, my child, hit hard.

i didn’t want to walk down the aisle on my own. I didn’t want to walk with my mum either. If you’re going traditional, wrongly or rightly, this just seemed wrong. I have no brothers, no uncles I’m close to. They have their own kids anyway so from this thread it would have been a massive no no to ask them.

so right from the start I couldn’t have the wedding I wanted. We ended up at Gretna green with strangers as witnesses. I still mourn the lovely church wedding and wedding dress I never got to have.

i have missed out on so much with no dad. If the SD can’t see that she is lucky to still have a living dad and has no empathy for her step sibling, well it’s not someone I’d want a relationship with.

i know it’s not top trumps in these situations but come on, I’d have gone for my dad leaving over dying every day.

That's fair, and I totally see where you're coming from. Tbh the adults here are the ones at fault for creating such a dysfunctional family, and I think it's safe to say that there won't be any relationship between the stepsiblings anyway, not that there ever was. I'm sorry for your loss.

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 20/05/2025 11:26

Tbrh · 20/05/2025 10:07

I guess it's because I feel sorry for SD. It must be really hard to lose your Dad and see him playing happy families with someone else. Adults are messed up later in life over much more trivial things than this. This really demonstrates there are some major underlying issues that haven't been resolved. It was also the OPs way she spoke of the whole situation and about SD. Initially I did think SD was a bitch, and I still think it's sad she couldn't be the bigger person but I wonder how your upbringing was to end up like that 🤷🏼‍♀️

I guess I feel sorry for DD. Her dad died and she has to watch her stepdad doing all the fatherly things with his dd, driving home the point she doesn’t have a dad.

my dad died as a child. These events which he should be there for, my wedding, my child, hit hard.

i didn’t want to walk down the aisle on my own. I didn’t want to walk with my mum either. If you’re going traditional, wrongly or rightly, this just seemed wrong. I have no brothers, no uncles I’m close to. They have their own kids anyway so from this thread it would have been a massive no no to ask them.

so right from the start I couldn’t have the wedding I wanted. We ended up at Gretna green with strangers as witnesses. I still mourn the lovely church wedding and wedding dress I never got to have.

i have missed out on so much with no dad. If the SD can’t see that she is lucky to still have a living dad and has no empathy for her step sibling, well it’s not someone I’d want a relationship with.

i know it’s not top trumps in these situations but come on, I’d have gone for my dad leaving over dying every day.

Tiswa · 20/05/2025 10:45

No one is being a bitch and no one is being nasty this is just what happens when blended family issues are not properly addressed. It’s clear the OP DH has buried his head in the sand about his responsibilities in blending them together and has never probably fixed the obvious issues his children has.
the OP clearly understandably favours her daughter and what’s her needs to be

leaving a broken family with a lot of issues and weddings have a habit of bringing them to the surface

Tbrh · 20/05/2025 10:07

moveoveralice · 20/05/2025 09:02

Personally, I am baffled why anyone thinks DH is relegating his own DD to a lower status by simply walking the fatherless woman, he has helped raise, down the aisle.

Again, I really hope the OP's daughter uninvites the noxious SD and sibling.

The excuses trotted out over the feelings of the SD are stretches at best. This is about spite and exerting complete control over part of an event they wish to sabotage.

If either of my daughters behaved like this I would laugh and suggest they take themselves off for a proper think. However, I am certain that they aren't capable of this level of malice over what is, just a nice gesture.

I guess it's because I feel sorry for SD. It must be really hard to lose your Dad and see him playing happy families with someone else. Adults are messed up later in life over much more trivial things than this. This really demonstrates there are some major underlying issues that haven't been resolved. It was also the OPs way she spoke of the whole situation and about SD. Initially I did think SD was a bitch, and I still think it's sad she couldn't be the bigger person but I wonder how your upbringing was to end up like that 🤷🏼‍♀️

CandiedPrincess · 20/05/2025 09:46

@moveoveralice 👏 Couldn't agree more.

I have my own children and I have SC. I can hand on heart say that none of the children would ever act like this, and neither would we allow it.

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