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Stepdaughter and Daughter's Wedding

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WickedMotherofthebride · 29/04/2025 14:00

Decided to become a member as it seems to be Stepchildren and wedding season on Mumsnet and sobbing uncontrollably to my sister isn't giving me the unbiased opinions I am after.
For the first time in our 22 year marriage my husband's ex invited him to dinner. We were very curious thinking she must be ill or something. I admit after a couple of hours I used my iphone to track him and he was at Charing Cross, then an hour later in the pub around the corner from us, he rarely drinks but came home the worse for wear and completely ashen.
Essentially if he goes ahead to walk my daughter down the aisle he can say goodbye to a relationship with his own daughter who is apparently devastated by this. Something that has been confirmed by his son.
I am one of those women who let a loser impregnate her, I thought the odd splif wasn't a big deal but he turned into an absolute stonehead who was in and out of my daughter's life until she was 8 when I married my husband. I don't know if her father's absence and my getting married was a coincidence but I think it was.
My husband is to all intents and purposes her dad.
At 15 a strange man arrived at the door wanting me to talk to him without my daughter present., obviously I wouldn't but my husband went out. It was the husband of my daughter's aunt to tell us that her dad had died.
She was given the chance to have a relationship with her family but chose not to saying that my husband was her dad.
Stepdaughter has a long term partner but there are no wedding bells.
My husband is adamant now that he can't give my daughter away something that I will not forgive him for. In fact I will divorce him if he doesn't.
The wedding is in 18 weeks.

OP posts:
theressomanytinafeysicouldbe · 30/04/2025 09:42

Anxioustealady · 30/04/2025 09:11

Did you ever actually ask her why? If my stepsiblings didn't want me at their weddings, I genuinely would think "oh, I wonder what I did that makes them feel that way?" and I would let them have their wedding day how they wanted. We're not close so I wouldn't push the issue.

You won, your stepfather abandoned his daughter for once and for all, to please you (or most likely your mother) and yet you're still angry and calling her a bitch, not thinking how she felt on her wedding day at all.

It was only my children, she said no children then invited other children - we were close, we grew up together in the same household, 44 years, she used to babysit my children, and I hers, and she had no relationship with the children she did invite. She was 52 years old at the time.

She has always been like this and it was in the garden of parents house.

And about how my children felt - his grandchildren - thats what he was thinking, not about me

Lurker85 · 30/04/2025 09:38

How ridiculous and what a brat. You don’t own your parents. Would he not be allowed to walk full blood siblings down the aisle either?

InterIgnis · 30/04/2025 09:16

Hollyhedge · 30/04/2025 07:03

I grew up in a blended family and I’d be talking to the daughter. I mean DH. Why is she devastated and also giving in doesn’t help her.

It could help her very much, and allow him the opportunity to rebuild a fractured relationship with her.

Not ‘giving in’ will cost him his relationship with her, potentially both his children if his son follows suit.

Anxioustealady · 30/04/2025 09:11

theressomanytinafeysicouldbe · 30/04/2025 08:12

I presume this has come from step daughter and not ex wife.

My stepsister is a selfish bitch just like your SD.

My Stepdad didn't go to my SS wedding - his own daughter - because she didn't want me there with my children - it was in my parents garden! She changed the venue but then invited other family members with their children.

Get her round and find out why she is objecting to this, she is obviously an adult. She doesn't see your DD as family. Has she and your daughter been close, got on or is it a strained relationship?

But this is on your SD not on your husband. Although he should be calling the shots - not his daughter and ex wife.

Did you ever actually ask her why? If my stepsiblings didn't want me at their weddings, I genuinely would think "oh, I wonder what I did that makes them feel that way?" and I would let them have their wedding day how they wanted. We're not close so I wouldn't push the issue.

You won, your stepfather abandoned his daughter for once and for all, to please you (or most likely your mother) and yet you're still angry and calling her a bitch, not thinking how she felt on her wedding day at all.

the7Vabo · 30/04/2025 09:10

IndigoViolent · 30/04/2025 08:56

Two highly contentious topics (weddings and stepfamilies) combined into one emotionally charged incident? Check. A bit of controlling behaviour (tracking phones) thrown in? Check. And most importantly, a one-post wonder OP? Check.

I think I can see where this is going. And actually, I hope it IS a wind-up. It’s pretty depressing to think someone would genuinely consider divorce over this. Imagine - you take on someone else’s child, even though it may be to the detriment of your own children, and knowing her pothead natural father could rear his head to cause trouble at any time… you raise that child for years and then boom - you are put in a horrendous dilemma and your partner, rather than recognising this and trying to support you, stamps her feet like a toddler and cries “divorce”.

This surely can’t be real.

I noted the phone checking. I doubt my husband would allow me to track him.

StClabberts · 30/04/2025 09:02

IndigoViolent · 30/04/2025 08:56

Two highly contentious topics (weddings and stepfamilies) combined into one emotionally charged incident? Check. A bit of controlling behaviour (tracking phones) thrown in? Check. And most importantly, a one-post wonder OP? Check.

I think I can see where this is going. And actually, I hope it IS a wind-up. It’s pretty depressing to think someone would genuinely consider divorce over this. Imagine - you take on someone else’s child, even though it may be to the detriment of your own children, and knowing her pothead natural father could rear his head to cause trouble at any time… you raise that child for years and then boom - you are put in a horrendous dilemma and your partner, rather than recognising this and trying to support you, stamps her feet like a toddler and cries “divorce”.

This surely can’t be real.

One suspects not, but it's cleverly construed if fake.

I enjoy how OP has raised the possibility that he might be one of those who's only willing to parent kids whose mother he's in a sexual relationship with, but mixes it up with him evidently not seeing her DC as like his own when the ultimatum was given. Maximum reeling in!

IndigoViolent · 30/04/2025 08:56

Two highly contentious topics (weddings and stepfamilies) combined into one emotionally charged incident? Check. A bit of controlling behaviour (tracking phones) thrown in? Check. And most importantly, a one-post wonder OP? Check.

I think I can see where this is going. And actually, I hope it IS a wind-up. It’s pretty depressing to think someone would genuinely consider divorce over this. Imagine - you take on someone else’s child, even though it may be to the detriment of your own children, and knowing her pothead natural father could rear his head to cause trouble at any time… you raise that child for years and then boom - you are put in a horrendous dilemma and your partner, rather than recognising this and trying to support you, stamps her feet like a toddler and cries “divorce”.

This surely can’t be real.

InWalksBarberalla · 30/04/2025 08:35

Bellyblueboy · 30/04/2025 07:39

I am so sorry that happened. And it is frustrating that it is such a common tale.

A second wife is often looking for a replacement dad for her children. And, as mumsnet has shown, replacement grandparents.

we do have a tenancy to blame the step
mum in these cases. But it’s the dad who lets his children down, the dad who takes the easy path to keep his wife happy; as the expense of his own children:

this fairy tale blended family where parents love all children equally, no child feels rejected or sidelined and extended family form a deep and instant bond rarely happens in real life. Lovely when it does but so many examples of children feeling left behind.

Yes, I don't blame my step mother at all. She's quite nice just has unfortunate taste in weak spineless men. I have more contact with her than dad these days- she's the only reason I ever heard from him on my birthdays etc so we've given up on the effort of even pretending he cares!

InWalksBarberalla · 30/04/2025 08:28

petiteoeuf · 30/04/2025 07:50

Yeah he has two bio children and we’re all really close. We’ve had a lot of bereavement that’s given us quite a lot of determination to prioritise each other, and I totally get that’s not always the case. I also totally get that some dads are pretty shit, and it must be horrendous to watch your dad play happy families with someone else! My reading of the OP though was that wasn’t the case here.

Edited

Really - the fact of the ultimation makes me think it was the case here in the OP. We've had plenty of bereavement too, makes it even harder to see the level of support dad gives stepsister compared to the fuck all support he gave to bio sister.

Bellyblueboy · 30/04/2025 08:19

I would love to hear the other side of this.

i am not saying this is right or rational or mature - but the raw emotions are probably something along the lines of ……

My dad remarried when I was 6 to a woman who had an eight year old daughter. I really missed my dad already and then all of a sudden he had a new little girl who he lived with full time when I only saw him every other weekend.

He and my mum didn’t really get on so he didn’t go to my parents evenings or school events but he went to everything for this new little girl. They were an instant little unit of three people and my bother and I were firmly on the outside. His new wife and I didn’t really get on and so I hated going to their house.

his new wife kept saying how her daughter needed a dad because hers was useless - but I needed a dad too. No one seemed to understand she got the better deal.

I always thought dad and I would mend the relationship - but now she is getting married. He will be father of the bride and do all those things with her that should be for me - his only daughter. Then she will have children and I know the pattern will repeat. My dad will be an amazing grandparent to her children but when I have children it will be awkward because his wife and I aren’t close. He will be round there every week, he and my step mum will do childcare for them and he will have a really close bond with these other children and will see mine every few months. My children probably won’t even understand he is actually my dad!

i lost it a bit last week and went into a rage about everything I have missed out on and how this girl has basically stolen my dad. My mum and brother intervened and issued my dad an ultimatum. I am not sure what happens next. But I doubt he will pick me. Because he never picks me - always her.

theressomanytinafeysicouldbe · 30/04/2025 08:12

I presume this has come from step daughter and not ex wife.

My stepsister is a selfish bitch just like your SD.

My Stepdad didn't go to my SS wedding - his own daughter - because she didn't want me there with my children - it was in my parents garden! She changed the venue but then invited other family members with their children.

Get her round and find out why she is objecting to this, she is obviously an adult. She doesn't see your DD as family. Has she and your daughter been close, got on or is it a strained relationship?

But this is on your SD not on your husband. Although he should be calling the shots - not his daughter and ex wife.

the7Vabo · 30/04/2025 07:56

petiteoeuf · 30/04/2025 07:50

Yeah he has two bio children and we’re all really close. We’ve had a lot of bereavement that’s given us quite a lot of determination to prioritise each other, and I totally get that’s not always the case. I also totally get that some dads are pretty shit, and it must be horrendous to watch your dad play happy families with someone else! My reading of the OP though was that wasn’t the case here.

Edited

Curious what did you read in the OP’s post? There s not much detail

Bellyblueboy · 30/04/2025 07:55

petiteoeuf · 30/04/2025 07:50

Yeah he has two bio children and we’re all really close. We’ve had a lot of bereavement that’s given us quite a lot of determination to prioritise each other, and I totally get that’s not always the case. I also totally get that some dads are pretty shit, and it must be horrendous to watch your dad play happy families with someone else! My reading of the OP though was that wasn’t the case here.

Edited

OP’s one and only only post was focused on her daughter - what happened with her daughter’s father and how her husband stepped in to fill the void.

there is no information about his relationship with his daughter. No indication if he had 50-50 custody, saw her every other week or indeed once a year. We have no idea if he showed up at school events, hobbies, met her friends growing up. Whether he was there when she was sick or helped with homework.

This is a step mother understandably forcing on her own child. Even if she comes back and clarifies it will not reflect how her step daughter felt - just how she saw it and how she wanted everybody to feel.

petiteoeuf · 30/04/2025 07:50

InWalksBarberalla · 30/04/2025 05:30

It's quite easy for you to say as the step daughter with the closenfather figure in your step dad.
Does your step dad have biological children who he sidelined in favour of his new family?
Because it stings to see your father forming a super close relationship with a child he lives with whilst you get to see him every second weekend and sit on the side with all their in jokes etc. My dad is way, way closer to my step sister than hw is is to my sister and I. I don't really care and barely see him these days - my step sister moved a few hours flight away and her mum and my dad followed to stay nearby. But I do think it has impacted my sister quite badly who never really got over the rejection.

Yeah he has two bio children and we’re all really close. We’ve had a lot of bereavement that’s given us quite a lot of determination to prioritise each other, and I totally get that’s not always the case. I also totally get that some dads are pretty shit, and it must be horrendous to watch your dad play happy families with someone else! My reading of the OP though was that wasn’t the case here.

CloverPyramid · 30/04/2025 07:43

It depends on the relationship between your husband and his daughter, surely, as to whether the ultimatum is unreasonable. If she feels he’s been a crap or barely present dad to her while raising your daughter as his own, it’s reasonable that she is angry and hurt about that. If he’s been a great dad to her (and truly, in every way, not favoured your daughter at all) then she is completely unreasonable.

I mean, I guess framing it as an ultimatum is unreasonable. But the sentiment behind it might not be. It might be less a real ultimatum she expects him to follow, and more just the final proof she needs to justify cutting him off. Which is unreasonable but understandable in some scenarios.

Bellyblueboy · 30/04/2025 07:39

InWalksBarberalla · 30/04/2025 05:30

It's quite easy for you to say as the step daughter with the closenfather figure in your step dad.
Does your step dad have biological children who he sidelined in favour of his new family?
Because it stings to see your father forming a super close relationship with a child he lives with whilst you get to see him every second weekend and sit on the side with all their in jokes etc. My dad is way, way closer to my step sister than hw is is to my sister and I. I don't really care and barely see him these days - my step sister moved a few hours flight away and her mum and my dad followed to stay nearby. But I do think it has impacted my sister quite badly who never really got over the rejection.

I am so sorry that happened. And it is frustrating that it is such a common tale.

A second wife is often looking for a replacement dad for her children. And, as mumsnet has shown, replacement grandparents.

we do have a tenancy to blame the step
mum in these cases. But it’s the dad who lets his children down, the dad who takes the easy path to keep his wife happy; as the expense of his own children:

this fairy tale blended family where parents love all children equally, no child feels rejected or sidelined and extended family form a deep and instant bond rarely happens in real life. Lovely when it does but so many examples of children feeling left behind.

Anxioustealady · 30/04/2025 07:23

JenniferBooth · 30/04/2025 00:10

The MN first wives club hypocrites are so easy to spot.

Edited

Same with the 2nd wives happy to push out his children from his first marriage.

Lots of the people trying to see the daughters perspective were stepchildren themselves, not stepmothers.

Hollyhedge · 30/04/2025 07:03

InterIgnis · 29/04/2025 23:48

He’s already decided that he isn’t going to go ahead and do something that will cost him his relationship with his child, and has told OP as much.

I grew up in a blended family and I’d be talking to the daughter. I mean DH. Why is she devastated and also giving in doesn’t help her.

Funnytaste · 30/04/2025 06:45

Funnytaste · 29/04/2025 19:11

?

so to be clear op, burning building with your step children and bio child…. You wouldn’t automatically go first to your bio?

and you think your husband would also do the same ie not automatically go first to save his biological child?

@Crazyworldmum i never did get a response

which I suppose really… is a response in itself

of course you can deeply love a step child. Of course you can treat them the same in every day life. And of course that when push came to shove in an emergency… you’d save your biological child over step child

the7Vabo · 30/04/2025 06:43

InWalksBarberalla · 30/04/2025 05:30

It's quite easy for you to say as the step daughter with the closenfather figure in your step dad.
Does your step dad have biological children who he sidelined in favour of his new family?
Because it stings to see your father forming a super close relationship with a child he lives with whilst you get to see him every second weekend and sit on the side with all their in jokes etc. My dad is way, way closer to my step sister than hw is is to my sister and I. I don't really care and barely see him these days - my step sister moved a few hours flight away and her mum and my dad followed to stay nearby. But I do think it has impacted my sister quite badly who never really got over the rejection.

This. It’s fantastic for a girl to have a close relationship with her step dad, unless it means his own children are sidelined.

And descanting a girl as “weird and possessive” in respect of her own father is isnt something id agree with.

Ivymom · 30/04/2025 06:04

As someone whose bioparent sidelined them for their spouse's children, I think there may be more to the story than the OP has shared. Until the OP comes back and answers some questions, it is difficult to tell who is unreasonable here. It seems really extreme that she is ready to divorce her DH if he doesn't walk her DD down the aisle. Like many PP's have pointed out, they all need to have some rational conversations. Instead everyone seems to be having tantrums.

Did DH sideline his DD for OP and her DD?
What kind of relationship does his DD have with him, OP and her DD?
Is ex a troublemaker or is she standing up for her DD?
Are there other marital problems and this is just the final straw for OP?

InWalksBarberalla · 30/04/2025 05:30

petiteoeuf · 29/04/2025 19:21

As the step daughter of someone who has been in my life my whole life, and the biological daughter of a man I loved very much, but who had issues with addiction and died when I was 11, this post really hit home for me. I’m surprised by the lack of sympathy from others, because from my (and my step dad’s) perspective, he’s an extremely important person in my life. He also walked me down the aisle and it was very special for me to be walked by someone who stepped up and loved me like he has done. He chose me and welcomed me into his heart and gave me a paternal figure that I wouldn’t have had otherwise, and that’s really special. It makes me a bit sad for your daughter that others are being so quick to buy into the idea that his biological daughter takes priority here. That’s not for a second to suggest he shouldn’t consider her feelings - I really do appreciate that it can be an incredibly complicated situation - but she’s also being weird and possessive and I don’t think that’s fair, or right. Father figures come in many forms and she should be proud to have a dad with a heart big enough to choose to parent a daughter he didn’t create!

All that to say, I think it’s kind of cool you feel so strongly about making sure your daughter isn’t sidelined. It really hurts when people pull the “biological” card. Although I guess even from my fairly biased perspective, it does sound like a SD problem rather than a DH problem, so I guess maybe it’s not totally fair to make it his fault. ❤️

It's quite easy for you to say as the step daughter with the closenfather figure in your step dad.
Does your step dad have biological children who he sidelined in favour of his new family?
Because it stings to see your father forming a super close relationship with a child he lives with whilst you get to see him every second weekend and sit on the side with all their in jokes etc. My dad is way, way closer to my step sister than hw is is to my sister and I. I don't really care and barely see him these days - my step sister moved a few hours flight away and her mum and my dad followed to stay nearby. But I do think it has impacted my sister quite badly who never really got over the rejection.

BruceAndNosh · 30/04/2025 05:01

Hopefully the OP s failure to return to the thread is because the 2 families have spent the evening discussing this like adukts instead of flinging ultimatums around

Tbrh · 30/04/2025 04:40

I think your own guilt has taken over OP, because her biological father isn't going to do it

Starlight7080 · 30/04/2025 03:19

Has the relationship with your step daughter been good? Does she resent her father getting married and bringing up your dd?
I think as others have said you should give her away. Getting divorced because of this is very silly. You cant be in a good marriage if such an old fashioned tradition can break you up.
Also imagine how tainted your daughters marriage will be from the start. It will always be associated with your divorce.
That's a lot worse then him not walking her down the isle.
And you essentially blackmailing him into picking your daughter over his daughter is very cruel