To shriek from the rooftops that there is No Such Thing as “preferred pronouns”?

I agree. They also seem to lack the ability to understand the word 'preferred' and get irate if someone doesn't do what they prefer. I'd prefer to not wait in a queue or always have my coffee at a certain temperature and sometimes life goes in my favour but mostly it doesn't. That's the way it is.

Christ this is so not an issue. Mum's Mumsnet is absolutely obsessed

The point you were explicitly clear about was that prefered adjectives, adverbs, nouns and pronouns don't exist in the english language

My point was that's very obviously nonsense

You're now trying to change things. Of course pushing your prefernces on others isn't right, but that's not the same as them not existing!

Absolutely. And women shouldn't be allowed to have a preference over whether they're referred to as Miss, Ms, Mrs etc either. Down with personal preferences!

I agree 100% with the ruling and about time too, but afaic, people can call themselves (and dress/live) as they please.

Well, quite. I have my pronouns in my signature block. We don't have to.

I get called all sorts of adjectives, mostly by my adult DC. What matters is tone, intent and context.

Cross posted 🫣.

100% this. Perhaps the OP should request a dictionary for their next birthday 🤣

Well look at it like this:

The amount of people who can't read and understand names is astonishing. My name is a girls name but remove the E at the end and it becomes a boys name - think Simone/Simon or Louise /Louis- I get called or referred to the boys version all of the fcking time and it's super annoying and might be a good enough reason to add my preferred pronouns in my signature.

Languages evolve all the time, to the utter frustration to those who struggle with change.

I really really really don't care what people want to call themselves. I don't feel overprotective over the She and Her adverbs.

I have a name which can be given to people of either sex, and a title which is awarded to anyone who has achieved it and isn't different if awarded to a male or female person.

Unless you had met me in person (unlikely in a professional context), you would have absolutely no way of inferring my gender unless I specify my pronouns. Which I do, because, as a woman who fought flipping hard to get to where I am, I am proud to identify myself.

Ah fuck, where did those goal posts go?

Shrieking from rooftops is what turns people off the GC movement. Ditto TRAs.

It's no skin off your nose how someone would like to be referred to. Maybe devote your energies to working out how we redesign our public spaces so that they work for everyone.

So you are allowed to bleat about the ‘mental load’ it puts on you for other people to have a preference in pronoun…but the mental load, anguish and upset gender dysphoria causes doesn’t matter? And you think trans people are the self centred ones here?

Of course you can have preferences. I prefer she to they but ultimately it makes little difference to me. However I appreciate it is a lot more emotive for other people and I wouldn’t choose to upset someone over the sake of a few letters.

This is a bit of a mad take. I'm pretty gender critical but I do think words, as in noises made by rubbing vocal cords together or characters written or typed on a page exist, and I would say that assertion is reasonably uncontroversial outside a meta-physics classroom. Given that we agree words exist, it follows that some of those words are used to refer to people, either concretely e.g. names used to refer to specific people or abstractly I e. Pronouns. And if you agree that, it seems reasonably obvious people do have feelings, reasonable or otherwise about how those words are used. E.g. I prefer to be addressed as Noctua, and do not very much like being addressed as ShitFace. Neither as it happens are my legal birth name, nor the current name on my passport or my work email address or my electricity bill, so we can argue ad infinitum about your right to address me as ShitFace if you choose to do so, and the various socio-psychological structures that may have led to your feeling / belief /decision that I am indeed designated by the noise/characters signifying ShitFace and to my taking offence at the same, and whether I can legally insist the electricity board and my work colleagues address me as Noctua and the political and societal and practical implications of all of that but to try and say the words Noctua and ShitFace don't exist isn't really very useful in furthering debate or anyone's understanding or agreement?

@MagpiePi You do realise that you can also call them whatever you want.

You don’t get to tell other people that they don’t have a pronoun they prefer to be referred to with. So scream away, it’s not going to make people stop.

You think someone would call you a man because they didn't know English very well? Ok then. Most people would be somewhat insulted I'd say.

The people who insist on this self-centred nonsense are oblivious to the additional mental load it inflicts on others. In some cases that seems to be the objective, so they can draw attention to themselves when someone 'mispronouns' him or her.

What a load of tripe. When you say a preferred adjective of yours is 'lush', I presume you use the word to describe your garden as you do seem to have an excess of manure.

I don't think people can change sex. I don't believe transgender females should compete against women in women's sport.

But whether someone wants to be called he or she totally doesn't bother me..it's up to them! If a man wants to be called 'she' I'm happy to call them 'she' if it makes them happy. Doesn't mean I believe they are a women.

I don't want to have to state my pronouns. I don't want to wear a badge that says 'im she/her' etc.. but if someone else does, what difference does it make? Let them crack on! Each to their own! As long as I don't have to participate in their delusions, I don't care about calling them what they want to be called. It's kind and decent.

They can call themselves whatever they want. Insisting everyone calls them that when it is based on a lie is plain old narcissism.