To shriek from the rooftops that there is No Such Thing as “preferred pronouns”?

Despite the fact it has nothing to do with her professional capabilities of a financial advisor and she could have been the best woman for the job?

I just can't take anyone who says "the pronoun people" seriously

No, that’s an illogical comparison to draw. What OP is saying is more along the lines of you can’t just go around calling a chair a table and expecting people to either agree or also call it a table.

I don’t think the PP is missing the point. I think what you are trying to exert has been worded incredibly badly, and is, as it stands, totally incorrect.

<and I don’t like this gender identity culture either>

Aren’t preferred pronouns what other people call you (unless you refer to yourself in the 3rd person singular)

There have been many time on here where someone has mentioned the "other girl" or "girl who was serving" and been corrected that this person is a woman. That's correcting a common noun about another person.

It’s no skin off my nose tbh. If someone want me to refer to them in a particular way I will try to accommodate them. It doesn’t bother me.

Surely pronouns are what other people call you?

Of course I don't. I use my title - Dr. Why should I have to downgrade myself?

You could argue that it would he better to get rid of he/she altogether because gender stereotypes help noone.

My name is Caroline but I prefer Carol. So you would call me Carol. Why make this the hill to doe on.

We didn't "dump" her. We didn't engage her. I don't want to deal with someone who doesn't believe in the most basic facts of life.

I disagree - nothing wrong with having a preference or with following it in the majority of circumstances- there are some limited circumstances when it shouldn’t be followed but even then it is properly described as a preference.

I generally find that people who want to “shriek from the rooftops” about something are using talking bollocks.

I remember a thread during Covid where someone wanted all the schools closed yet again in preference to numerous less onerous limitations, and they wanted to shriek it from the rooftops too.

I’m assuming she writes Doctor or Professor.

You are participating in their delusions if you call a man "she". It's stupid and it gives them a "thrill". Don't do it.

Then you write Ms or Mr. People are laughing at the pronoun people.

You're the one denying reality ITT op

Of course they exist. People can have a preference of what pronouns people use to refer to them. They can request or even demand that those particular pronouns can be used for them, even. Of course they can do that.

Whether someone else grants that request or complies is a different matter. But an individual can certainly have preferred pronouns, and demand other people use them when referring to them. Just like I can prefer being called my full name instead of a shortened version, or prefer being called "darling" over "dear", and request cake whenever I like, or make demands for strangers to give me their money... As long as I don't do with a weapon or violence, I can demand other people treat me however I want to.

People will either comply because they like me and it's not big deal to them, or refuse and call me silly and a bully because they disagree with my preferences and demands.

Youre the one getting your own preferences confused with facts. You would prefer that people didn't even try to choose their pronouns, so youre jumping straight to that they cannot even try to do that and that it "doesn't exist" .

Well, they can try, and preferred pronouns do exist - because some people do prefer some pronouns over others to be used for them (whether they fit or not in other people's eyes) . You don't own language any more than they do, and they can have their preferences. Sorry I guess?

Pronouns are just substitutions for proper nouns, so if you’re happy to address people/refer to them by their preferred names and titles, why not their preferred pronouns? It makes no sense. Trying to suggest there’s a logic to your reasoning by differentiating between pronouns, nouns and proper nouns doesn’t alter the fact that you object to this practice because - well, you just do. And that’s fine, as long as you’re not deliberately disrespectful to those that prefer to be addressed/referred to using gender neutral pronouns (I’m not one of them, btw. There are young people in my life who are, and I confess to struggling to remember sometimes, particularly when I knew them for years as girls; they’re quite tolerant of my slips and I’m quite tolerant of their preferences). As the youth say, ‘you do you, bro’ (actually, probably not ‘bro’ - too gendered!)

I get what you mean and I would go for sex based pronouns. In the absence of being able to comply people to do the same I can only make the decision over which pronouns I use.

You see it on here, a nonsense article with preferred pronouns and posts with correct sex pronouns about the same person. Gender ideology has made a mess of language and hopefully things will change. The SC ruling a first step.

Yep! Not surprising.

Yep, that’s a rational response. Nothing childish at all about ignoring someone’s qualifications and experience because of your own prejudices.

Husband sounds utterly fed up of it too!

I am very happy to use people’s preferred pronouns, as long as they are words which exist as pronouns within the English language.

The only bit I object to is having to share my own pronouns in this way - which, so far, hasn’t happened anyway.

I think it’s an easy adaptation, if someone really wants it.

I can't believe someone would actually dump a financial advisor because they have their pronouns on the bottom of their email 🙄