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To not be happy that my new work lanyard has “she/her” on it without me asking?

264 replies

TheNavyAnt · 29/04/2025 09:03

I’ve just started a new job and noticed that my staff lanyard/pass automatically has my name and “she/her” printed underneath it. Nobody asked if I wanted pronouns added - it was just assumed and put there by default.

I don’t have anything against people sharing pronouns if they want to, but personally, I wouldn’t have chosen to have it printed on my pass. It feels a bit forced, like I’m being made to take part in something I didn’t ask for and I’m not sure why it needs to be there at all unless I choose it.

AIBU to feel slightly uncomfortable about this? Or should I just let it go as one of those “modern workplace” things?

OP posts:
Oddsocksanduglyshoes · 29/04/2025 10:32

MrsMappFlint · 29/04/2025 10:30

Tell them they have misgendered you. Your pronouns are He/His and they can look forward to being sued.

In the meantime, you will be going home immediately to recover and do not expect this recovery to take less than two weeks.

😂😂

Cycleaway · 29/04/2025 10:32

I wouldn’t be bothered about having my pronouns on my lanyard. I would be bothered that someone else assumed my pronouns to put them on my lanyard - it defeats the whole object of the exercise. For this reason I think you should feed back to hr

Oddsocksanduglyshoes · 29/04/2025 10:32

redphonecase · 29/04/2025 09:03

Sharpie.

Was literally thinking the exact same thing

MrsMappFlint · 29/04/2025 10:30

Tell them they have misgendered you. Your pronouns are He/His and they can look forward to being sued.

In the meantime, you will be going home immediately to recover and do not expect this recovery to take less than two weeks.

TheNavyAnt · 29/04/2025 10:30

gamerchick · 29/04/2025 10:20

On the pass or on the lanyard? Sharpie or sticker as has been suggested should do it.

If get a smiley sticker me.

It’s on the actual pass

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HobnobsChoice · 29/04/2025 10:28

TroysMammy · 29/04/2025 10:06

Why would you need pronouns on a work email? I roll my eyes when I see someone has done this. I don't care what they are or think they are as long as the email makes sense a reasonable request and no spelling mistakes.

I would not be wearing a lanyard with she/her on it.

All the "allies" at work have done this. And I think thanks Jane, thanks Matt, was so hard to tell if you were male or female with those incredibly gender neutral names. Of a thousand or so people in the organisation there's about 50 who have done it.

TheNavyAnt · 29/04/2025 10:28

Rewis · 29/04/2025 10:19

Did someone ask your preferred pronouns at some point? In the application or on boarding? If they didn't then assuming pronouns without asking about them is very odd.

No, nobody asked me at any point - not during the application, onboarding, or in person. That’s exactly what feels odd to me too. If pronouns are meant to be about respect and inclusion, surely asking should be part of the process rather than assuming and printing them automatically.

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Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 29/04/2025 10:28

Put a sticker over it

NoBinturongsHereMate · 29/04/2025 10:27

purplecorkheart · 29/04/2025 10:26

Does everyone lanyard have them. I would wonder if it previously belonged to someone else who got their own lanyard and work are just recycling.

Someone who happened to have the same name?

OchonAgusOchonOh · 29/04/2025 10:27

Ladybuglamp · 29/04/2025 09:51

Are you a she/her? If so, I don’t understand what the issue is?
It’s helpful for colleagues to know how you like to be referred to. No different from having your name printed on the badge.
I’m sure HR will remove it if you’re genuinely that bothered about people thinking you’re a woman.
I find it really helpful at work (There is a trans woman at my work and not to sound mean, but I would have just assumed she was a he/him if she didn’t have her pronouns in email sig - and I could have ended up really hurting her feelings)

There is a body of research showing that drawing attention to her sex, which inclusion of pronouns does, results in women being taken less seriously in the workplace with consequent negative impact on career progression.

So yeah, it is an issue.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 29/04/2025 10:27

Ladybuglamp · 29/04/2025 09:51

Are you a she/her? If so, I don’t understand what the issue is?
It’s helpful for colleagues to know how you like to be referred to. No different from having your name printed on the badge.
I’m sure HR will remove it if you’re genuinely that bothered about people thinking you’re a woman.
I find it really helpful at work (There is a trans woman at my work and not to sound mean, but I would have just assumed she was a he/him if she didn’t have her pronouns in email sig - and I could have ended up really hurting her feelings)

The issue is sterotype threat.

The issue is that announcing pronouns has been shown to increase sex discrimination.

The issue is co-opting all employees into a particular belief system, whether they want it or not. What if the lanyards were all automatically printed with 'God is great', or 'MAGA', or ' Om mane padme hum', or 'All property is theft'?

purplecorkheart · 29/04/2025 10:26

Does everyone lanyard have them. I would wonder if it previously belonged to someone else who got their own lanyard and work are just recycling.

Miaowzabella · 29/04/2025 10:25

Tell them you will need several lanyards, because you are genderfluid and your pronouns vary from day to day.

MysteriousUsername · 29/04/2025 10:25

How did they know you are she/her? You can’t tell by looking at people at all you know. 🙄 How dare they assume your gender, and maybe they’ve misgendered you.
I would definitely go to HR with all these points. It works both ways.

My DP was also given a name badge with he/him on for his volunteering role. Unfortunately he wasn’t bothered enough to complain. I would have done.

NeedToChangeName · 29/04/2025 10:23

Tell them you prefer not to disclose your own pronouns in case it pressures others to disclose theirs when they're not yet ready to do that. You think it's best if people can choose to share what they want to, when they're comfortable

NeedToChangeName · 29/04/2025 10:21

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/04/2025 09:31

Go back to HR and ask if you can have a lanyard without pronouns on it because you don't feel comfortable displaying this information for personal reasons.

Good approach

Watch them squirm

And how dare they assume that Ellen, clearly female, likes to be known as "she"?!

Anon517 · 29/04/2025 10:20

In my opinion it should only be there if requested and I’d think it would only be used by people who would be insulted to be misgendered surely.

gamerchick · 29/04/2025 10:20

On the pass or on the lanyard? Sharpie or sticker as has been suggested should do it.

If get a smiley sticker me.

rosemarble · 29/04/2025 10:20

Ladybuglamp · 29/04/2025 09:51

Are you a she/her? If so, I don’t understand what the issue is?
It’s helpful for colleagues to know how you like to be referred to. No different from having your name printed on the badge.
I’m sure HR will remove it if you’re genuinely that bothered about people thinking you’re a woman.
I find it really helpful at work (There is a trans woman at my work and not to sound mean, but I would have just assumed she was a he/him if she didn’t have her pronouns in email sig - and I could have ended up really hurting her feelings)

I have been on this planet for nearly 55 years.
My dint of my name and how I look and sound not a single colleague has had a problem knowing that I am a woman with the associated pronouns.
My name identifies me as an individual.

If other individuals feel their colleagues may not know what sex they are then it's on them to make it clear...if it's even important.

I communicate with people via email and don't know what sex they are (someone call Pat or many of the Chinese names I am not familiar with); I just tailor my message.

Ohthatsabitshit · 29/04/2025 10:19

Get some stickers and decorate your badge with them. One will cover unwanted pronouns. If they were purple, white and green it would be very pretty.

Rewis · 29/04/2025 10:19

Did someone ask your preferred pronouns at some point? In the application or on boarding? If they didn't then assuming pronouns without asking about them is very odd.

BlueCleaningCloth · 29/04/2025 10:18

YANBU. That's pretty bad that they've assumed your pronouns are she/her without asking and then put them on a publicly visibly lanyard.

Pronouns should be optional also. Not everybody wants to use them, and forcing everyone to use them can out and other people who are non-binary or trans who don't really want attention drawing to it.

TropicofCapricorn · 29/04/2025 10:16

ThisWOMANWontWheesht · 29/04/2025 10:12

Whilst I like the directness of this, saying this would imply you actually had preferred pronouns in the first place. I don’t. I’m she/her because I’m female. Not choice or preference.

well, you fdo have a choice. and all this pronoun bullshit means you can not assume or force someone to reveal their pronouns.

because it's forcing those that are struggling to "come out" or whatever.

NowYouSee · 29/04/2025 10:16

This would piss me off too.

Ob a practical level I would go in person to the people who create them - often security - and ask brightly with a smile if you can please have one without pronouns. I wouldn’t be giving reasons WHY, if they ask would just say it would be my preference, if they push you could say something like for your personal circumstances this would b your preference. I would be surprised if the security office is a hotbed of trans activism. But even it is is, an implication that this is around YOUR gender identity or lack thereof should make them back off

AnSolas · 29/04/2025 10:15

ilovesooty · 29/04/2025 09:24

If everyone else has them and it's company policy I don't see what the big deal is. I certainly wouldn't be making waves in a new job. They should have confirmed them with you though not made assumptions.

It is also about not allowing your company create policy which can harm the company.

Harm comes with financial loss which can cost you money in reduced salary or benefits.

Gender falls with in a number of PC which can lead to harm (to the company)

Should the company provide a method to prove harm may have happened or where possible avoid giving the employee evidence which then has to be rebutted.
Eg I meet jo he/him with no badge an i bullying him if I say say I met her to a third party or jo is here she will be doing X
If I am actively bullying anyone who uses other sex pronouns has the company given me a way to create a list of employees who meet my criteria

If its a company card what data is needed

Company logo is an issue if it its a keycard or people attach work keys to the card

Name and company can be used to ID additional public data.

So asking why something is as it is can help the company assess if a change would be better or why the current set up work best for their needs