Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To not be happy that my new work lanyard has “she/her” on it without me asking?

264 replies

TheNavyAnt · 29/04/2025 09:03

I’ve just started a new job and noticed that my staff lanyard/pass automatically has my name and “she/her” printed underneath it. Nobody asked if I wanted pronouns added - it was just assumed and put there by default.

I don’t have anything against people sharing pronouns if they want to, but personally, I wouldn’t have chosen to have it printed on my pass. It feels a bit forced, like I’m being made to take part in something I didn’t ask for and I’m not sure why it needs to be there at all unless I choose it.

AIBU to feel slightly uncomfortable about this? Or should I just let it go as one of those “modern workplace” things?

OP posts:
Jadorelabrador · 29/04/2025 11:08

Xiaoxiong · 29/04/2025 09:05

If asked, you could say that it's against the Yogyakarta principles to force people to disclose their pronouns.

This and indeed I have and I’ve also linked to research like this https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/06/220610120216.htm
showing it can have the opposite effect of being more inclusive. If we point out an engineer is a she or lady engineer it makes it seem less ‘normal’.

I’m female my name is very female eg Emma and I clearly am a a woman - no one needs to point it out to me.

Words matter: How to reduce gender bias with word choice

In the workplace, even subtle differences in language choice can influence the perception of gender, for better or worse. These choices fall into two main categories: minimizing the role of gender by using gender-neutral terms or emphasizing an individ...

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/06/220610120216.htm

Shadowsunray · 29/04/2025 11:05

It's an ideological statement that supports the destruction of women's rights, no chance in hell I would wear it.

Whoistheeasterbunny · 29/04/2025 11:01

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 29/04/2025 10:55

Just makes you look like an utter knob.
Hope anyone doing this from now on in calls you he and his, bet your hilarity would soon wear thin.

But they're making their own music and starting their own dance ?

Bbq1 · 29/04/2025 11:01

It would insult me because I am clearly she/her and think that the whole of my workplace understands that. Obviously other posters are more annoyed that their preferred pronouns have been assumed but I'd I'd refuse to wear it on the basis they felt the need to print them on my lanyard.

Hwi · 29/04/2025 11:01

Madness encroaches bit by bit - you can make your own contribution to fighting madness by using a sharpie.

Whoistheeasterbunny · 29/04/2025 11:00

İf I ever end up in a similar situation, I'm going to request that they change it to Her Royal Highness and Her Majesty, and yes my ego is fluid....

JoyousEagle · 29/04/2025 10:58

This is so stupid. Not asking will mean that anyone who does use different pronouns to the ones someone might assume will be annoyed. And it reveals that the company is one that only wants to pretend to care about this (“look at us, we’re so inclusive we put pronouns on our badges”) while actually not caring enough to check whether those pronouns are correct. So who are they satisfying with this?

TinyTear · 29/04/2025 10:58

redphonecase · 29/04/2025 09:03

Sharpie.

I was going to say tipex

luckylavender · 29/04/2025 10:55

skippy67 · 29/04/2025 09:06

I'd Sharpie over it.

Depends on the company. The lanyard is not your property so defacing it could result in a disciplinary

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 29/04/2025 10:55

MrsMappFlint · 29/04/2025 10:30

Tell them they have misgendered you. Your pronouns are He/His and they can look forward to being sued.

In the meantime, you will be going home immediately to recover and do not expect this recovery to take less than two weeks.

Just makes you look like an utter knob.
Hope anyone doing this from now on in calls you he and his, bet your hilarity would soon wear thin.

rosemarble · 29/04/2025 10:54

NoBinturongsHereMate · 29/04/2025 10:52

Doesn't apply to work passes, though. If you can see the pass, you can see the person.

Yes - I was answering "Why would you need pronouns on a work email?"

luckylavender · 29/04/2025 10:54

DiaAssolellat · 29/04/2025 09:04

Hell would freeze over before I wore this.

Then you probably wouldn't be able to get into your workplace

JoyousEagle · 29/04/2025 10:52

Surely not asking completely undermines the point of doing it? You could easily be someone who wanted to use they/them.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 29/04/2025 10:52

rosemarble · 29/04/2025 10:48

Here's an example:

email from author with a Chinese name that I am not familiar with. They have she/her in their signature.

I forward email to colleague saying e.g. "See email below, I'm not what she's asking".

I don't care what sex they are, it just makes the grammar easier.

In the event I don't have a pronoun, I might Google the name. Sometimes it's very clear, other times it's not. Sometimes Chinese authors use their last name when communicating in a professional setting so that can make things more difficult.

If I don't find out it doesn't matter, I would just say "See email below, I'm not sure what they're asking" or "I'm not sure what Xiaoming means".

This is NOT an argument for putting in pronouns in emails, absolutely not, I am just giving an example where it can be helpful.

Doesn't apply to work passes, though. If you can see the pass, you can see the person.

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 29/04/2025 10:51

I wouldn't have a problem with wearing it.
With you not knowing it was going to be on there though - were you asked what your pronouns were? If not it's a bit 🙄 that they've just presumed!

AnSolas · 29/04/2025 10:51

Ladybuglamp · 29/04/2025 09:51

Are you a she/her? If so, I don’t understand what the issue is?
It’s helpful for colleagues to know how you like to be referred to. No different from having your name printed on the badge.
I’m sure HR will remove it if you’re genuinely that bothered about people thinking you’re a woman.
I find it really helpful at work (There is a trans woman at my work and not to sound mean, but I would have just assumed she was a he/him if she didn’t have her pronouns in email sig - and I could have ended up really hurting her feelings)

Its rather different because it is a notification that the person thinks they are a woman and not about what you or others think.

You think that the worker in your job is a man your employer adding a pronoun line to the email field has not changed the fact that you dont place that employee into the class woman.

rosemarble · 29/04/2025 10:48

TroysMammy · 29/04/2025 10:06

Why would you need pronouns on a work email? I roll my eyes when I see someone has done this. I don't care what they are or think they are as long as the email makes sense a reasonable request and no spelling mistakes.

I would not be wearing a lanyard with she/her on it.

Here's an example:

email from author with a Chinese name that I am not familiar with. They have she/her in their signature.

I forward email to colleague saying e.g. "See email below, I'm not what she's asking".

I don't care what sex they are, it just makes the grammar easier.

In the event I don't have a pronoun, I might Google the name. Sometimes it's very clear, other times it's not. Sometimes Chinese authors use their last name when communicating in a professional setting so that can make things more difficult.

If I don't find out it doesn't matter, I would just say "See email below, I'm not sure what they're asking" or "I'm not sure what Xiaoming means".

This is NOT an argument for putting in pronouns in emails, absolutely not, I am just giving an example where it can be helpful.

SerafinasGoose · 29/04/2025 10:48

Ladybuglamp · 29/04/2025 10:00

Many scenarios in the workplace.

In a team meeting
eg. “I agree with what Rachel just said, I think she had a very valid point”

It's very easy to avoid using sex/gendered pronouns. You simply switch to the passive voice. This takes some reframing in the mind, but after a while it becomes habit.

I work in an organisation with a clear policy that disciplinary action could be taken over any slips, however unintentional. So to me it became like a game of linguistic contortionism. This has the twofold benefit: no one gets inadvertently offended, and I don't have to compromise my principles (which are that I don't hold with regressive gender stereotypes).

Therefore: 'I agree with what Rachel just said. That was a very valid point'.

orangegato · 29/04/2025 10:41

Over my frosty corpse would my pronouns be going on anything. The nerve!

heathspeedwell · 29/04/2025 10:40

I would be furious about this. Women have worked so hard and risked so much to break free of this idiotic ideology that puts women and young people at risk.

I would write a strongly worded letter and point out that gender critical beliefs are protected by law.

notatinydancer · 29/04/2025 10:40

Sharpie and complain. How dare they.

Twiglets1 · 29/04/2025 10:39

WhatDidIComeInThisRoomFor · 29/04/2025 09:06

Go back to HR and say you’re very upset that someone made an assumption about your preferred pronouns.

This and if they ask what pronouns you want to be known by say you're still deciding so please can it remain blank while you think about it.

GreenwayHouse · 29/04/2025 10:37

MrsMappFlint · 29/04/2025 10:30

Tell them they have misgendered you. Your pronouns are He/His and they can look forward to being sued.

In the meantime, you will be going home immediately to recover and do not expect this recovery to take less than two weeks.

I love this!
You could ask for several lanyards and say that your gender is fluid and that you never know how you are going to feel from one day to the next. You could be like Eddie Izzard and be in 'boy mode' one day and 'girl mode' the next and another day could be feeling non binary. So could they supply you with all the different options to suit that particular day.

BlackWhiteCircle · 29/04/2025 10:35

If ever asked to put my pronouns down, I would say I hadn’t finished deciding if I wanted to be Dave or davina and by making me choose they were forcing me to put myself as Dave when I wasn’t ready but I wasn’t davina. Or some bullshit like that

GreenwayHouse · 29/04/2025 10:35

I would ask for a new one without pronouns. You're absolutely not being unreasonable. I'd be far too embarrassed to go around wearing a lanyard with pronouns on and it's not right that anyone has to display them. It's all absolute nonsense.