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To not be happy that my new work lanyard has “she/her” on it without me asking?

264 replies

TheNavyAnt · 29/04/2025 09:03

I’ve just started a new job and noticed that my staff lanyard/pass automatically has my name and “she/her” printed underneath it. Nobody asked if I wanted pronouns added - it was just assumed and put there by default.

I don’t have anything against people sharing pronouns if they want to, but personally, I wouldn’t have chosen to have it printed on my pass. It feels a bit forced, like I’m being made to take part in something I didn’t ask for and I’m not sure why it needs to be there at all unless I choose it.

AIBU to feel slightly uncomfortable about this? Or should I just let it go as one of those “modern workplace” things?

OP posts:
mugglewump · 29/04/2025 11:39

If this is company policy, then just accept it. Check the company hand-book. If it is, and you still feel it's a cause for concern, then you might find you are not a good for the organisation.

SueSuddio · 29/04/2025 11:37

WhatDidIComeInThisRoomFor · 29/04/2025 09:06

Go back to HR and say you’re very upset that someone made an assumption about your preferred pronouns.

Brilliant. Coined in one.

Of course it's fine to assume pronouns without dare of offence if you're a boring normie of a certain age.

Yes this is utterly silly, I wouldn't wear it.

BoredZelda · 29/04/2025 11:35

Pluvia · 29/04/2025 09:43

You didn't have to do it and in light of the Supreme Court ruling the other day you can quite confidently remove it again. They have forced you to express an allegiance to an ideology you don't share. Your employers should be the ones who should be worrying.

That ruling has nothing to do with this situation.

I find it very difficult to believe an HR department taking this route into inclusion would do something so crass as to issue these lanyards without checking with individuals what their preferred pronouns are. If they aren’t getting that basic thing right, I’d be concerned what other parts of HR they don’t understand

Ryeman · 29/04/2025 11:34

Bbq1 · 29/04/2025 11:01

It would insult me because I am clearly she/her and think that the whole of my workplace understands that. Obviously other posters are more annoyed that their preferred pronouns have been assumed but I'd I'd refuse to wear it on the basis they felt the need to print them on my lanyard.

This is my stance as well. I'm actually happy for people to 'assume' because it's so obvious. No need to spell it out.

JamieCannister · 29/04/2025 11:34

MimiGC · 29/04/2025 11:26

If you are working for a large company or public service with a proper HR dept, you can be direct and go in all guns blazing, as they should know better. If it’s a very small outfit, a Community Interest Company or similar, with no HR dept, I would be more gentle in my approach. Just say you weren’t asked, don’t want it and can you please have a new ID pass. If there is any assumption or pressure to add your pronouns to your email signature, the same applies.

Surely it depends on all sorts of things, not least attitudes of friends and how much you need the money. If you cannot risk your job at all then being silent maybe best. If you are rich and can easily find other work then an all guns blazing "I don't want people to think I am a homophobic misogynistic clown" might be more appropriate.

Lascivious · 29/04/2025 11:33

I’d ask for a new one. No one should be forced to comply with this utter nonsense. The more people that shrug it off, the more accepted it becomes.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 29/04/2025 11:32

Chungai · 29/04/2025 11:25

Same. Assuming they are your actual pronouns.

Pronouns aren't just a trans issue. It can be useful for lots of reasons especially on email - if someone's sex isn't clear from looking at them, if they have a name that can be used for all sexes, if someone from a different culture or country is contacting you.

But they should have checked with you first, that's very presumptuous.

You left out one of the main uses of pronouns when displayed in email signatures/on badges/etc by women. They draw attention to the woman's sex and perpetuate stereotype threat which frequently results in detrimental effects on the woman's career. Not a use I'm happy with.

Darkgreendarkbark · 29/04/2025 11:32

I would email HR and say, I wasn't asked about this, and if I had been asked, I would have chosen not to display pronouns. Please can you reissue my pass, without pronouns.

They can't really insist on it, and if you work somewhere big enough that you have a printed pass, the people who make said passes are not going to give you a second thought. It will just be "Oh, the temp has cocked up the passes again, we'll have to send this one off to the printer again, right, what's next".

LittleBitofBread · 29/04/2025 11:31

Chungai · 29/04/2025 11:25

Same. Assuming they are your actual pronouns.

Pronouns aren't just a trans issue. It can be useful for lots of reasons especially on email - if someone's sex isn't clear from looking at them, if they have a name that can be used for all sexes, if someone from a different culture or country is contacting you.

But they should have checked with you first, that's very presumptuous.

Let's be real, though: before the trans thing started, no one was worrying about whether they might use the wrong sex for someone with an unfamiliar or ambiguous name and no companies were issuing lanyards or diktats about email signatures about it.

ArabellaScott · 29/04/2025 11:29

That is really unfair, OP.

It will mean that people who interact with you make assumptions.

I steer clear of anyone who advertises their pronouns.

MimiGC · 29/04/2025 11:26

If you are working for a large company or public service with a proper HR dept, you can be direct and go in all guns blazing, as they should know better. If it’s a very small outfit, a Community Interest Company or similar, with no HR dept, I would be more gentle in my approach. Just say you weren’t asked, don’t want it and can you please have a new ID pass. If there is any assumption or pressure to add your pronouns to your email signature, the same applies.

DialSquare · 29/04/2025 11:26

You’ve been put in the pronoun wanker camp against your will. I’d be absolutely fuming and would be making a fuss, new job or not.

5128gap · 29/04/2025 11:25

I'd ask for them to be removed. I'd say that I don't feel comfortable with telling other people how they should refer to me, and that my preference is to allow them to use the pronoun they consider appropriate.

Chungai · 29/04/2025 11:25

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 29/04/2025 10:51

I wouldn't have a problem with wearing it.
With you not knowing it was going to be on there though - were you asked what your pronouns were? If not it's a bit 🙄 that they've just presumed!

Same. Assuming they are your actual pronouns.

Pronouns aren't just a trans issue. It can be useful for lots of reasons especially on email - if someone's sex isn't clear from looking at them, if they have a name that can be used for all sexes, if someone from a different culture or country is contacting you.

But they should have checked with you first, that's very presumptuous.

LittleBitofBread · 29/04/2025 11:24

By the TRA movement's own lights, that's outrageous; they've made an assumption about your gender.
I'd say to HR you object to the presumption and you want a new lanyard.

AnSolas · 29/04/2025 11:19

Thiscouldbefun · 29/04/2025 10:13

I think you should say nothing. You do not want to be that person HR are talking about in day 1.

I get the whole assumption / choice argument. I also get that probation periods, promotions and redundancies don’t happen by accident

True but...
Here is the fun part for "True Believer" companies :

@MissScarletInTheBallroom 👋 · Today 09:31
Go back to HR and ask if you can have a lanyard without pronouns on it because you don't feel comfortable displaying this information for personal reasons.

^ This puts the OP into the trans but not saying yet class and faith/belief so HR would be foolish to give the OP a reason to sue under the EA

LuckyOrMaybe · 29/04/2025 11:18

Whoistheeasterbunny · 29/04/2025 11:00

İf I ever end up in a similar situation, I'm going to request that they change it to Her Royal Highness and Her Majesty, and yes my ego is fluid....

That's a great one. If I ever have to write down pronouns I'll probably go with either Fee Fi Fo Fum or Hi Ho Hi Ho. (not likely though - I'm self-employed)

SerafinasGoose · 29/04/2025 11:17

Shadowsunray · 29/04/2025 11:05

It's an ideological statement that supports the destruction of women's rights, no chance in hell I would wear it.

I agree. I've been put on the spot more than once when asked for 'my' pronouns in a meeting situation.

On some occasions, maintaining a comfortable silence can work until they move on. On one, they actually asked on a second occasion. My response was 'that's not a practice I follow'.

MrsMappFlint · 29/04/2025 11:15

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 29/04/2025 10:55

Just makes you look like an utter knob.
Hope anyone doing this from now on in calls you he and his, bet your hilarity would soon wear thin.

Maybe you could ask work for a couple of weeks off too!

Calm down, there's a good chap!

OchonAgusOchonOh · 29/04/2025 11:14

JamieCannister · 29/04/2025 11:10

"I am upset that you have assumed my pronouns and do not wish to have she/her on my lanyard. Can I have a new lanyard please?"

"What are your pronouns then?"

"I do not feel comfortable sharing my pronouns"

Except that is implying the op has preferred pronouns.

I would go with something similar:

"I don't want to have she/her on my badge. Can I have a new one without pronouns please?"

If asked what you pronouns are: "I prefer not to have pronouns on my badge"

SerafinasGoose · 29/04/2025 11:14

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 29/04/2025 10:55

Just makes you look like an utter knob.
Hope anyone doing this from now on in calls you he and his, bet your hilarity would soon wear thin.

I wouldn't care in the slightest. My sex is pretty damned obvious to anyone glancing at me for a mere second. Calling me by some daft pronoun isn't going to change it, and will doubtless just make them look a buffoon.

The world isn't going to stop turning if someone calls me 'he'. I don't rely on others for affirmation.

TallulahBetty · 29/04/2025 11:13

They've missed the WHOLE point of what they were trying to achieve, by assuming that yours are she/her. What a pantomime!

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 29/04/2025 11:13

I agree but you are in a new job and I’d just seethe inwardly and crack on. In two years time you might want to readdress it.

PullTheBricksDown · 29/04/2025 11:12

Cycleaway · 29/04/2025 10:32

I wouldn’t be bothered about having my pronouns on my lanyard. I would be bothered that someone else assumed my pronouns to put them on my lanyard - it defeats the whole object of the exercise. For this reason I think you should feed back to hr

Yes this. Even if you're fine with it, it's totally contrary to the purpose of it to just assume them and put them on!

JamieCannister · 29/04/2025 11:10

MidnightPatrol · 29/04/2025 09:09

And - how did they know you are she/her if they haven’t asked you?

Are they making assumptions?

"I am upset that you have assumed my pronouns and do not wish to have she/her on my lanyard. Can I have a new lanyard please?"

"What are your pronouns then?"

"I do not feel comfortable sharing my pronouns"