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To not be happy that my new work lanyard has “she/her” on it without me asking?

264 replies

TheNavyAnt · 29/04/2025 09:03

I’ve just started a new job and noticed that my staff lanyard/pass automatically has my name and “she/her” printed underneath it. Nobody asked if I wanted pronouns added - it was just assumed and put there by default.

I don’t have anything against people sharing pronouns if they want to, but personally, I wouldn’t have chosen to have it printed on my pass. It feels a bit forced, like I’m being made to take part in something I didn’t ask for and I’m not sure why it needs to be there at all unless I choose it.

AIBU to feel slightly uncomfortable about this? Or should I just let it go as one of those “modern workplace” things?

OP posts:
TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 29/04/2025 14:08

Ladybuglamp · 29/04/2025 09:51

Are you a she/her? If so, I don’t understand what the issue is?
It’s helpful for colleagues to know how you like to be referred to. No different from having your name printed on the badge.
I’m sure HR will remove it if you’re genuinely that bothered about people thinking you’re a woman.
I find it really helpful at work (There is a trans woman at my work and not to sound mean, but I would have just assumed she was a he/him if she didn’t have her pronouns in email sig - and I could have ended up really hurting her feelings)

How blind you are not to see the issue.

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 29/04/2025 14:06

ilovesooty · 29/04/2025 09:24

If everyone else has them and it's company policy I don't see what the big deal is. I certainly wouldn't be making waves in a new job. They should have confirmed them with you though not made assumptions.

If it'ß company policy then it should be mentioned on application forms and at interview.
I wouldn't even consider working for anyone that forced such nonsense upon their employees.
My pronouns are me/fucking mad at the world and its nonsense

randoname · 29/04/2025 14:05

Ladybuglamp · 29/04/2025 09:51

Are you a she/her? If so, I don’t understand what the issue is?
It’s helpful for colleagues to know how you like to be referred to. No different from having your name printed on the badge.
I’m sure HR will remove it if you’re genuinely that bothered about people thinking you’re a woman.
I find it really helpful at work (There is a trans woman at my work and not to sound mean, but I would have just assumed she was a he/him if she didn’t have her pronouns in email sig - and I could have ended up really hurting her feelings)

You're describing a situation where you colluded with a lie.

Throckmorton · 29/04/2025 14:02

Inthebitterend · 29/04/2025 13:53

I wish I had the energy to care about something so inconsequential to how I live my every day life. Getting so caught up in pronouns that seeing your own written down makes you "uncomfortable" is just bizarre to me.

I wish I had the naivete to think this was inconsequential

AspiringChatBot · 29/04/2025 14:01

There's plenty of evidence that women are placed at a systemic disadvantage to men when attention is called to their sex in the workplace. No one should be forced to have something on their work ID or gear that indicates their sex unless their job responsibilities make it necessary to differentiate or specify sex. The egalitarian and democratic best practice is to leave gendered pronouns and titles (Ms., Mr., Lady, Sir, etc.) off unless functionally necessary.

Genevieva · 29/04/2025 13:55

Inthebitterend · 29/04/2025 13:53

I wish I had the energy to care about something so inconsequential to how I live my every day life. Getting so caught up in pronouns that seeing your own written down makes you "uncomfortable" is just bizarre to me.

It’s the imposition of transgender theory by the back door. I think we do need to stand up to it.

CandidRaven · 29/04/2025 13:54

I don't understand why it's needed, surely people just call you by your name not she or her? Seems like a pointless addition when a name is enough

Genevieva · 29/04/2025 13:54

TheNavyAnt · 29/04/2025 10:30

It’s on the actual pass

Go directly to the person who prints the pass and ask for a new one without the pronouns.

Inthebitterend · 29/04/2025 13:53

I wish I had the energy to care about something so inconsequential to how I live my every day life. Getting so caught up in pronouns that seeing your own written down makes you "uncomfortable" is just bizarre to me.

Genevieva · 29/04/2025 13:52

xanthomelana · 29/04/2025 09:05

I feel the same, we had to add our pronouns to our signature on our work email. As you said it feels a bit forced and I don’t see what difference it makes having it there.

We were told to at one point. I never did. No one ever noticed. Or if they did they didn’t say anything.

WimbyAce · 29/04/2025 13:50

I would ask if it's compulsory and if it can be reprinted with no pronouns. I have seen it creeping into emails at work but no way will I be partaking.

footballfan1963 · 29/04/2025 13:41

Gretnaglebe · 29/04/2025 13:00

Tippex

Is that a new gender we haven’t heard about? 😂

footballfan1963 · 29/04/2025 13:40

LittleBitofBread · 29/04/2025 12:30

Some people do have bollocks like 'she'/'they' 🙄

What the hell do they mean by that??

TroysMammy · 29/04/2025 13:37

I've managed 57 years without people stating they are a she/her, him/he, they/them or whatever they want to be. I have a first name and it can be used by anyone without them getting in knots about titles, surname or whether I have a vagina or penis.

Gettingbysomehow · 29/04/2025 13:33

I'd be furious and I'd be sending it right back. They don't even know what your pronouns are and they didn't ask your permission to share them with all and sundry.

Jeezitneverends · 29/04/2025 13:30

DiaAssolellat · 29/04/2025 09:04

Hell would freeze over before I wore this.

Perfectly put. I’d see them at a tribunal before I’d accept this nonsense.

MyZippyLemonBiscuit · 29/04/2025 13:30

Are you a female?

OutandAboutMum1821 · 29/04/2025 13:29

It is ridiculous OP, stating the obvious and completely over the top. I think the onus to have pronouns on a badge should be on people who are not using the obvious, not everybody who is perfectly happy with the status quo.

I would not like this, firstly because I was not even asked, and secondly, because it may make people assume that I am actually a biological male. Confusing and ridiculous!

YankeeDad · 29/04/2025 13:29

To all the posters suggesting any sort of snarky or even polite complaint, what if @TheNavyAnt needs / wants to keep this new job? There is clearly a power dynamic being exploited by someone by including these on a pass for a new joiner, because any sort of reaction could label her as a “difficult person” and lead to her being quickly managed out.

The power dynamic will shift somewhat in her favour when the probationary period has passed, especially if she also has strong performance reviews. But it does also depend on who wanted the pronouns on the badges, and whether senior leadership has bought in to doing this.

A pragmatic solution might be to cover the pronouns with a Sharpie or a white sticker, but only after the probationary period has ended.

LillyPJ · 29/04/2025 13:27

Sharpie, tipped or sticker. I feel similarly annoyed about having to provide a title on forms. It's unnecessary and unhelpful.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 29/04/2025 13:15

I’d also ask HR if it could be issued without the pronouns

HPFA · 29/04/2025 13:15

Yet again a case of people not really believing the thing they're told to believe.

Anyone who really did believe it would not dream of assigning pronouns to you without asking.

BlueRaincoat1 · 29/04/2025 13:13

I really don't agree with the compulsory sharing of pronouns on lanyards or emails.
We don't share any other identifying data about ourselves in general on email signatures or on lanyards, most people don't use a title (like Ms /Mr) although perhaps that would be a better idea if people wanted to signal their gender preference, rather than pronouns.
We don't state our sex, nationality, race, if we are disabled (unless relevant for communication purposes), our sexual orientation etc on emails or lanyards. As has been repeatedly observed above, we don't tend to use third person pronouns when speaking to someone directly, so really how relevant is this for most people. If it is important to an individual then they can have it but it is weird and inappropriate to force 'identifiers' on people without reason or consent.

Darkgreendarkbark · 29/04/2025 13:10

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 29/04/2025 12:52

The issue is that we aren't asked to add any other protected characteristics to our emails or work passes.

Pronouns aren't a protected characteristic. I know gender reassignment is, but if someone has that protected characteristic and is already signing themself off as "Samantha", then adding "she/her" gives nothing new away.

Disclaimer, I hate the whole pronoun business and don't partake in it.

Trabbling · 29/04/2025 13:10

CaptainAwkward · 29/04/2025 09:06

It's the equivalent of being ascribed a religious title when you're an atheist in my opinion, drawn into a belief framework without consent.

And just silly

"Drawn into a belief framework without consent" - this is so perfectly put. I love it when someone articulates my feelings so well ❤️