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notsureyetcertain · 29/04/2025 09:28

outlanderish · 29/04/2025 08:35

In hindsight, surely it will do the opposite and encourage the people who do not work but are physically able to work, to work? No?

What an ignorant response. How many people do you think are claiming pip that are actually not entitled to it? I’d guess a very low amount. Firstly you can work and get pip it’s not means tested do the argument that disabled people are lazy is flawed. Secondly the application process is brutal and requires significant evidence from professionals to back up what you are saying. And lastly the basic rate is £73 a week, could you live on that ? Would you go to the trouble of deceiving the government and risking being taking to court for that?

Maybe ask yourself why all the propaganda about the disabled and the poor is constantly being fed to us? Maybe because if we look closely it’s not the poor that’s fleecing the country at all.

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MistressoftheDarkSide · 29/04/2025 09:06

https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/minister-suggests-cuts-are-coming-to-access-to-work-scheme/

This suggests putting the onus on employers to take on more challenging candidates for jobs, which I agree should be the case. But how many will? Small and medium businesses are being squeezed by new and increased overheads and costs all the time, and big corporations are purely profit driven.

If financial incentives come from the government to business, it's still just public money being driven into corporate hands, and I doubt that employees taken on for such reasons would be necessarily catered for appropriately. But then, I am rather cynical.

Sir Stephen Timms giving evidence in a Commons committee room

Minister suggests cuts are coming to Access to Work scheme

Ministers appear to be set to announce cuts to a flagship disability employment scheme, just as the government is trying to push more disabled people towards the workplace. Sir Stephen Timms (pictu…

https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/minister-suggests-cuts-are-coming-to-access-to-work-scheme/

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Hyteffsxg · 29/04/2025 09:05

All these reports and analysis can be done to make it fit your narrative. If it was the IEA they'd be all about the "efficiency savings"

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MistressoftheDarkSide · 29/04/2025 08:58

WellINeverrr · 29/04/2025 08:55

What do we do about the benefit bill though? How do we ensure that those genuinely in need get the right support while those who can work do work?

Well not axing all the programmes that helped those who did want to work despite challenges in alot of cases might be helpful.

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Viviennemary · 29/04/2025 08:55

I disagree. Benefits need to be cut. Absolutely ridiculous the amounts some folk are raking in.

WellINeverrr · 29/04/2025 08:55

What do we do about the benefit bill though? How do we ensure that those genuinely in need get the right support while those who can work do work?

Ablondiebutagoody · 29/04/2025 08:52

I would say the opposite. Benefits and the state in general are far too large. Slashing them both and reducing the tax burden would be better for stimulating the economy. With the current situation, its no wonder all the NEETS don't fancy working. It's a perfectly rational decision for them.

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PickAChew · 29/04/2025 08:41

outlanderish · 29/04/2025 08:35

In hindsight, surely it will do the opposite and encourage the people who do not work but are physically able to work, to work? No?

Based on repeated attempts by governments to achieve the same thing - no.

Fraudornot · 29/04/2025 08:39

I agree with this - the impact of disability benefits cuts is going to be huge. Many families will no longer be able to care for adult disabled children if their support is cut and the burden will fall on social services. There is no subtlety to their cuts and they still haven’t outlined what they are going to do to get all these people into work. So they are generating widespread fear with no explanation of the plan. Appalling

Toootss · 29/04/2025 08:38

I thought it was only new benefit applicants that are affected so don’t see much changing for years.

StMarie4me · 29/04/2025 08:38

outlanderish · 29/04/2025 08:35

In hindsight, surely it will do the opposite and encourage the people who do not work but are physically able to work, to work? No?

And let’s not worry about the genuinely disabled who will die? No?

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MistressoftheDarkSide · 29/04/2025 08:36

outlanderish · 29/04/2025 08:35

In hindsight, surely it will do the opposite and encourage the people who do not work but are physically able to work, to work? No?

Did you read the article? Because apparently not.

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outlanderish · 29/04/2025 08:35

In hindsight, surely it will do the opposite and encourage the people who do not work but are physically able to work, to work? No?