Benefit cuts will cost the economy.

for the love of Christ, I posted a full breakdown per month, and what this would total per year. Nobody else has struggled to understand this, only you, and you keep repeating nonsensical things I didn’t even write. Go back and read my post.

Here it is.

The entitlements per month, which over 12 months (as there are 12 months in a year), add up to around £40,000.

Do you understand this?

If these figures aren’t monthly, where is that high total coming from? Because the total of those figure is 8 thousand and some thing and, annually, that’s not a lot.

Of course it’s possible.

I just used the ‘Entitled To’ calculator.

A family with 2 non working parents, where 1 is a carer and 1 on PIP, with 2 kids claiming DLA, is entitled to £40,000 in benefits per year.

£2300 UC
£360 carers
£145 council tax support
£262 child benefit
£4000 PIP

In the handful of families I mentioned above, there is a bit more at play (such as 3 DC on DLA, or both parents receiving PIP, or 1 parent caring for the other). So that would in theory be more.

Do you dispute the figures above?

I bow to your better mental maths. 😁

It’s certainly not £40k, is it. I don’t know how you’d even feed and house a family on that. Let alone have spare funds.

If these figures aren’t monthly, where is that high total coming from? Because the total of those figure is 8 thousand and some thing and, annually, that’s not a lot.

You said families get £40,000 a year and then listed benefits that add up to £7,067.

Because I never did claim an adult gets 4k in PIP a month. I said 4k a year, yet no matter how much I repeat this, they just ignore it and keep making up something I never said.

Because I never did claim an adult gets 4k in PIP a month. I said 4k a year, yet no matter how much I repeat this, they just ignore it and keep making up something I never said.

The cost of a disability is not always much higher. My deaf friend says her only extra cost is hearing aid batteries. She got any other equipment for free.

I wouldn't hold your breath!

Well no. What is increasingly common is for anonymous posters to make unbelievable claims.

I’ve asked you to post screenshots of the benefits calculation that you say you did on entitled to. The one you say shows a single adult receiving £4k in PIP (which isn’t possible).

Please would you post the screenshot so that we can unravel that?

4!!!! What even are the odds? It used to be unusual to have 1 child in receipt of disability benefits - 4 would’ve been unheard of. Yet it seems so common now, to have 2 or 3 out of 3 or 4 kids on DLA!

Can you provide some figures as to how you would tax the rich who are already very taxed?

Ok, so

statement:

most people claiming don’t need specialist equipment.

as of Jan 25 there are approx 3.6 million people getting PiP.

1.8 million of them cannot walk 20 metres. They will definitely need a wheelchair.

an additional 1.1 million can walk 20 metres but not 50. They almost certainly have a wheelchair as well as 50 metres really is not far.

1.1 plus 1.8 gives 2.9

so 2.9 million out of the 3.6 million are almost certainly using a wheelchair.

probably some of the rest are as well, but if you can walk 50 metres you don’t get the mobility component.

so, yes, the vast majority of people getting PIP in this country need equipment.

data from the government statistics.

I know two families getting dla for four children. Their children aren’t any higher needs than mine (all have asd). It’s a huge amount of money to get from the state. I don’t see that we should award such significant amounts to people just because they have something we consider a disability unless there are actually additional costs.

Maybe it’s an idea to move to a voucher system to cover costs only. As a disabled person i can say its a good thing to work if at all possible and most disabled people can do some work

Also, UC has a LHA component which usually falls several hundred pounds short of actual market rents in an area, so a good chunk goes straight to landlords with a top up from the "what you need to live on" bit. Which has to cover all bills plus food. So what sort of rent did you put in for that calculation?

The cost of a disability is not always much higher. My deaf friend says her only extra cost is hearing aid batteries. She got any other equipment for free.

I know two families getting dla for four children. Their children aren’t any higher needs than mine (all have asd). It’s a huge amount of money to get from the state. I don’t see that we should award such significant amounts to people just because they have something we consider a disability unless there are actually additional costs.

Maybe it’s an idea to move to a voucher system to cover costs only. As a disabled person i can say its a good thing to work if at all possible and most disabled people can do some work

Where did your £4k figure for PIP come from?

Anyway, as @MistressoftheDarkSide said, unless you have the entitlement letters of the people you know, you have no proof what their income is. The figure of £4k for PIP you quoted shows you have no idea what you are talking about.