To think everyone needs to prepare for cybercrime as the new war

i agree but also I am pretty sure windows would be getting broken and people would be grabbing food from supermarkets very quickly after power goes off for everyone. Anyone without food to feed their family won’t care about tne legalities of stealing from the supermarket in an emergency situation like this.

Reporting now that it was because of "rare atmospheric conditions" "temperature fluctuations" and oscillations. Well that's alright then.....🥴🧐🤨🤔

I also have a best friend who is South African (get me being all international) and they have scheduled and unscheduled power cuts every day. It can be managed- at a government level, not by Doris’ tea light coffee- but is obviously not ideal.

You have confused me with someone else- I have never posted or had an agenda about 72 hours. I do have both a Norwegian and Swedish best friend of 30+ years though and don’t find their reality as sensible and level headed as British people seem obsessed with

If there's no electricity, the supermarkets won't be opening as they won't be able to light, ventilate, heat the place, the tills won't work, there'll be no CCTV cameras for security etc. They simply won't be "open" to sell the perishables.

Even our train station shut down because without electricity, they couldn't illuminate the platforms, light or heat the ticket office, light the dark underground subway, nor could they power the CCTV systems for security/safety, etc. Trains just ran through and didn't stop. (Power to signalling etc came from the main signal box operating centre in a different city so wasn't affected).

So, yes, power cuts affect far more than people realise.

We were doing this, thankfully, for years, as our city was badly hit by Storm Desmond in 2015 when the city was without electricity for around 3/4 days and suffered haphazard interrupted power for another 3/4 days afterwards. Shops were closed, no trains/buses, no petrol stations, and both landline phone and mobile phone networks were "down" for the first couple of days.

Luckily we had an old battery radio so we could listen to our wonderful local radio who managed to carry on broadcasting by diesel generators, lots of loose wires around their studio and torches/candles, and they managed to keep everyone updated.

We've always had a bit of "stock", i.e. candles, torches, bottled water, and lots of tins/packet foods, so we managed fine, cooking on a camp stove.

We also had cash, but it really was useless because the shops were closed anyway, so there was nothing to buy.

We were very glad to have reserves, and have built them up even more ever since - we're not in "tin hat" territory, but we could be self sufficient for a couple of weeks if whatever happens, whether another bad weather incident, or cyber attack, or whatever really.

It's actually frightening seeing how literally everything closed down when there's not electric. Cash really won't help if the buses aren't running, the shops are closed, etc.

If I've confused you as someone on a previous thread I apologize. However, I am in Denmark and I can assure you that the government's recommendations are not performative. You may not freeze in 72 hours but you may die of thirst. Especially the young, elderly, and sick and vulnerable. There is no harm in being prepared.

I think you’ve mistaken me for someone else. I have no feelings about 72 hours

You were posting heavily on the other thread a while back on being prepared for 72 hours along the vein of how everything is pointless. You've started up again here. What's your agenda? If you don't agree with this, why keep spamming the thread?

Humans really can not live without electricity. It shuts down everything and the essentials, food and water will run out very quickly. Without fuel there would be no means to transport anything. We probably wouldn't last much longer than a few months.

I think hospitals have e a certain amount of back up supply.

I wouldn’t worry about that- the real worry is whether they have enough tea lights to boil a mug of water for coffee

Do you know how long Russia has been a hostile neighbour to these countries?!?
They’re not sensible and level headed, they’re leaflet dropping. A performative and easy way of getting an untested message across.

and no I don’t think being self sufficient for 72 hours is all that. You wont freeze or starve in 72 hours, and you wont be able to take your cash to get a takeaway as the take away will be closed 🤣 I think it’s just a bit daft tbh

Cash is always useful. If the entire banking system goes down I can still buy food and takeaway. Our sainsbury's have infrequent but regular days where the cards don't work but they still take cash. The cashmachine by the door is then empty.

Eg say visa or Mastercard goes TU for 24 hours Sainsbury's would rather the inconvenience of cash over thousands of pounds of food going out of date and in the bin.

Most companies would rather take cash than loose a day's trade.

I worry about the people on oxygen, dialysis machines etc

Food for thought

I agree it would be quite hard on people such as yourself but hopefully you have access to empty bottles that you can fill up with excess boiled water. Keep cool and in the dark for several months before emptying (onto plants) and re-doing. As and when you can buy in an extra tin of food that doesn't need cooking such as fruit or ham (unless you like cold rice pudding or baked beans). Spare loaf of bread in freezer etc.

What do you do when you are poor though? And can’t create these reserves? I live payday to payday, I can’t make a store of food and water as I barely get by anyway!

I find it interesting how big of an issue fraud is, and how little prosecution happens / the frauds are shut down.

I get non-stop phone calls, emails, texts trying to defraud me. No one seems bothered about doing anything.

It was before the invasion of Ukraine. Those countries have always been sensible and level headed in general. Although I don't know what point you are trying to make surely getting everyone (of any country) to be self sufficient for 72 hours is a good thing, don't you agree?

@Swirlythingy2025 when you say 'Smart money's already moved' what do you mean exactly? Moved where? Is there a viable everyday alternative? It's hard to bank offline now all the banks are closed. Are you recommending keeping cash in the house to pay for emergencies?

dont you? Finland literally do it due to the threat from Russia. Have you seen the Norwegian and Swedish leaflets? They say the same. Isn’t it sort of obvious?

Hi @EmeraldRoulette 😊 hope you're doing ok x

I didn't realise Sweden, Norway, Finland and Germany were being threatened with immediate war (and those were the countries I was referring to). Do you know something their citizens don't?