Lorries across 3 lanes of a 4 lane motorway.. surely this is wrong?

The lorries pull in to the left and the cars carry on in the outer lanes going slower than the lorries and the lorries cannot pull out to the outer most lane to overtake the cars hogging the middle lanes. It is legal to undertake in solid traffic, otherwise the lefthand lane would be empty half of the time with cars refusing to pull in to it. I very much doubt the lorries were speeding, their livelihoods depend on having a licence, it goes back to the cars indicated speed being higher than their actual speed, so an indicated 50 is probably 47/48. The lorries will be driving to the limit or their governed speed.

Ok so it’s not officially the ‘fast lane’ but it always has been known as that. My point is they’re a bloody menace slowing down all the traffic or making everyone go round them.

If you were to complain about the fact that they just indicate and pull out regardless of whether there is a gap or not and just expect car drivers to get out of the way I’d agree with you.

Or on smart motorways them bowling along at 55 regardless of the speed limit so coming up behind cars that are sticking to the limit at terrifying pace I’d also agree.

Or when they are taking miles to overtake, their inability to stay in their lane and encroaching into your lane and making you shit yourself if you are overtaking them.

I hate lorries, they seem to be a law unto themselves nowadays, and are really frightening when you are in a small car. But they are allowed to be in those three lanes.

Not where I was today. Everyone pretty much sticking to 50mph (lots of cameras) with HGVs weaving in and out to over / undertake. I always wonder if the cameras can’t read their plates?

Oh no they don’t. Run Waze or Google maps when you’re in the car. Mostly they are 3-4 miles out about 60 mph. Does vary car to car. Only police and tacho vehicles have calibrated Speedo. They can’t show you slower than you are but nearly all show you slightly faster.

Pretty much like car drivers then really.

That's because it takes longer for the lorry to pick up speed and get through the "slipstream" of the one it's overtaking. Once they have over taken then it takes a mile or so for the gap to open up between the front and rear lorries.
Also the reason that the lorry will "click, click and move" as 1 PP put it is because the driver most likely hasn't seen you. Rule of thumb when travelling behind an HGV with a high trailer is, if you can't see their LH wing mirror then the driver can't see you (RH for drivers from other countries), so either be prepared for them to pull out with little notice, or don't drive too close directly behind it.

That's because it takes longer for the lorry to pick up speed and get through the "slipstream" of the one it's overtaking. Once they have over taken then it takes a mile or so for the gap to open up between the front and rear lorries.
Also the reason that the lorry will "click, click and move" as 1 PP put it is because the driver most likely hasn't seen you. Rule of thumb when travelling behind an HGV with a high trailer is, if you can't see their LH wing mirror then the driver can't see you (RH for drivers from other countries), so either be prepared for them to pull out with little notice, or don't drive too close directly behind it.

If we’re talking about impatience let’s talk about the lorry drivers… it takes ages for them to overtake… seems like miles… just for them to basically swap places. I mean they’ll get there a second or two quicker.

my DH wonders if they’re on some fuel saving agreement by tucking in behind one another so closely

I’m half way through a long motorway journey and I too was surprised to see HGVs in three out of four lanes in roadworks on the m4.

None of them seemed to think the speed limit of 50mph applied do them either, merrily tailgating, undertaking, overtaking and generally driving appallingly.

I wonder if they were doing that for shits and giggles too @Dontcallmescarface

eta I’m at the services at the moment…not driving!

If you were to complain about the fact that they just indicate and pull out regardless of whether there is a gap or not and just expect car drivers to get out of the way I’d agree with you.

Or on smart motorways them bowling along at 55 regardless of the speed limit so coming up behind cars that are sticking to the limit at terrifying pace I’d also agree.

Or when they are taking miles to overtake, their inability to stay in their lane and encroaching into your lane and making you shit yourself if you are overtaking them.

I hate lorries, they seem to be a law unto themselves nowadays, and are really frightening when you are in a small car. But they are allowed to be in those three lanes.

Ok so it’s not officially the ‘fast lane’ but it always has been known as that. My point is they’re a bloody menace slowing down all the traffic or making everyone go round them.

Oh no they don’t. Run Waze or Google maps when you’re in the car. Mostly they are 3-4 miles out about 60 mph. Does vary car to car. Only police and tacho vehicles have calibrated Speedo. They can’t show you slower than you are but nearly all show you slightly faster.

Outside lane is for overtaking , no such thing as a "fast lane". Plenty of car drivers hog lanes 1, 2 and 3, entirely unaware that it is dangerous to other drivers. At least the lorries are delivering food to supermarkets, or just Chinese tat to online shoppers...the point is though, they're delivering things the population need, or just want. Not the driver's fault their speed is restricted.
YABU, we all have to share the roads.

Cars speedometers have to be accurate, not approximate!

the issue with speed it most people doing 55 in their car are only really doing 50-51 - and the truck's tacho speed is actually 55. if you're driving at 60 on your speedo in a 60 - you're not doing 60.. more like 55-56