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To not understand how people fund their lives and feel a bit jealous?

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Travelenthusiast · 28/04/2025 08:23

Just that really. Mid-30s and we have what I have always seen as a healthy income of £180k per annum (obviously been lower when we were younger and increased over time), and had some family help - about £50k to buy our first house several years ago.

And i’m not complaining about our quality of life- I know we are lucky and can afford a good holiday every year, and a more expensive/ luxury holiday occasionally. DS does a few extra-curricular activities, we don’t have to worry about the food shop total (we aren't extravagant at all) and can afford to eat out a few times a month etc. And I know we are lucky as I grew up in a poor family and understand the stress and implications.

But we have a very modest 3-bed house (with a big mortgage), our car is ten years old and there’s no way we could replace it, we can rarely afford to replace clothes and shoes for us (of course do for DS), days out are thought through to reduce cost, would make pack lunches to take into work and don’t buy shop coffees, we could not afford private school, and often we cut out the eating out to add to savings instead- basically £ is not abundant. And we are relatively careful financially and not big spenders generally. None of this is me saying our life is bad- I know we are really luckily, but just trying to give an idea of limitations / life.

We do live in SE commuter belt (not london) where everything is very expensive.

But we are surrounded by families who have so much more, so apparently effortlessly. We are genuinely one of the only local families without a 4x4 (i know cry me a river 🤣). How do others have it all and have the big house, the new car, endless holidays, SAHM often, the new clothes, meals out, lots of savings? Is it simply that they earn much more? I know we are lucky but I just don’t understand how so many can be so wealthy? Could most of our network really have a household income over £200k?!

OP posts:
CatrionaBalfour · 28/04/2025 09:04

You can't buy shoes? Ok.
Perhaps try the MN recommendation of taking in ironing.

Shoppingtoday · 28/04/2025 09:04

Come on op. A £15k holiday and you’re pleading poverty? And jealous of friends?

I can honestly say I have never compared myself to anyone else financially and been jealous. I am a single parent who was made redundant and I still don’t find myself adding up what other people have got/haven’t got which is a lot more than me because most people I know are married with a family home and two incomes coming in. Everyone’s circumstances are different and that’s just life.

I am also not of the era where your parents helped you out with a large deposit to buy a home. I don’t know anyone who had that privilege or anyone who had a family who could afford to do that. Yes you are very lucky indeed.

RosesAndHellebores · 28/04/2025 09:03

Sofiewoo · 28/04/2025 09:00

Oh come on what sort of “bills” total £2k exclusive of mortgage?
The OP spends 15k on a holiday, it’s objectively nonsense to say she doesn’t have much left over.

Food, Utilities, Council Tax, Water rates, insurances, broadband, Sky - pretty sure ours adds up to £2k, if not more.

PickettWhiteFences · 28/04/2025 09:02

DH and I have a combined income just above the national average, and although we monitor our spending we are in no way unable to house and cloth our two children. In fact we still have enough money to a house and second hand car, go out for dinner / treat day every few weeks and take an annual UK holiday (probably could afford abroad but cba with young children).

whatkatydid2014 · 28/04/2025 09:01

High housing costs and recent increases in cost of living generally are undoubtedly a driver for people feeling poorer than they’d expect on higher salaries. It is hard when a big pay rise is maybe just eaten up by various basic costs like mortgage, fuel & food rising but I just always think without the pay rise we’d be worse off so actually we are super fortunate to be in the position our quality of life is minimally impacted and that where it is then it’s all on nice to haves vs needs.

I find If I focus on what we have & feeling grateful for it vs what anyone else has & feeling envious then I’ll be much happier so I do that. We’ve just been on holiday for a week in the UK. We spent about 10% of your Maldives budget but had a fab time together exploring parks & museums, visiting some attractions, going to the theatre, eating out in small independent restaurants/cafes and getting a chance to chat with the kids. If you want a new car then you could easily do a couple of years of cheaper holidays and you’d be sorted. Someone else with the car and your earnings probably does that or their kids do less clubs or they have a smaller mortgage. Ultimately just enjoy that you have choices and don’t worry about what anyone else is doing 🤷🏼‍♀️

Sofiewoo · 28/04/2025 09:00

JeanBrodie64 · 28/04/2025 08:58

I can sort of work the sums on this. So say £10k a month take home pay
£4k mortgage
£2k childcare
£2k bills
£1k student loan

doesn’t leave much but still seems very wrong!

Oh come on what sort of “bills” total £2k exclusive of mortgage?
The OP spends 15k on a holiday, it’s objectively nonsense to say she doesn’t have much left over.

Shatteredallthetimelately · 28/04/2025 09:00

£180k isn't a small amount.

Are you genuinely taking everything into account..as in...if any

Monthly subscriptions..
Amazon Prime/Netflix/Sky, any others.
High phone contract payments.

Ad hoc bits you buy along the way all add up.

Purchasing the latest phones/tablets, gadgets.... just because.

faerietales · 28/04/2025 09:00

Living off 180k a year must be horrendous. My heart bleeds for you.

LilDeVille · 28/04/2025 09:00

Also OP this is genuinely a serious suggestion - move to somewhere where you’re not surrounded by v rich people if you don’t like to be? We live in the frowned upon area locally, which I love because it keeps the snobs out and it is absolutely lovely!

Feelingstrange2 · 28/04/2025 08:59

Sounds like you are dreadful at budgeting.

Divert time from worrying about others to watching some you tube videos on working out where your income goes and assessing the importance and value of the choices you are making.

Screamingabdabz · 28/04/2025 08:59

I haven’t got a pot to piss in and can’t afford holidays so… 🤷🏻‍♀️

Whu · 28/04/2025 08:58

Wow. I’m late thirties and divorced so single income of £40k to pay the mortgage and all bills now. I prioritise experiences over possessions - have nice holidays - currently in Portugal with friends, eat out every couple of weeks at home, gym, spa days etc.
Love my life. Bought house with no assistance from family up north in an average area. Have a cheap run around car that gets me from a to b. So many people just over do things and have unreasonable expectations. Who needs a gas guzzling 4x4 unless you are a farmer? Just enjoy your life you are so privileged and can’t see it!

JeanBrodie64 · 28/04/2025 08:58

I can sort of work the sums on this. So say £10k a month take home pay
£4k mortgage
£2k childcare
£2k bills
£1k student loan

doesn’t leave much but still seems very wrong!

MightyGoldBear · 28/04/2025 08:58

Maybe volunteer some time to help out with those less fortunate. One of my jobs is working with homeless people. I come back to my 3 bed semi and feel so so lucky. I have somewhere safe and that's mine.

Money certainly isn't going as far as it once did. Everything is much more expensive now. You're not unreasonable to observe the change but if you're considering a 15k holiday you're doing absolutely fine. Definitely change your social circle and outlook. You said you grew up poor so know you're lucky but then feel left out you don't have a 4x4. It doesn't add up op.

brexel · 28/04/2025 08:56

Pantah630 · 28/04/2025 08:26

Are you taking the piss?

🤣🤣🤣

LilDeVille · 28/04/2025 08:55

Hmm. We have similar income but no family help, and in Surrey and generally don’t struggle. 3 kids, one in nursery. Focus your perspective on your second paragraph rather than your third if you want a happier life. Other than that, not sure really!

ETA we don’t struggle at all, maybe it would be a stretch to go on an AI holiday every year but that’s not a struggle 😄

CuriousGeorge80 · 28/04/2025 08:55

I have a 3 bedroom house. It cost £1m. Don’t use a 3 bedroom house as proof you don’t have enough money when you earn £180k a year between you, you idiot.

whitewineandsun · 28/04/2025 08:54

It's a bit early to be taking out the violin, but here we are.

90swithcigarettesandalcohol · 28/04/2025 08:54

I live in the SE so I understand it’s an expensive area but just as there are plenty of people with more money than us around (a lot moved out from London and had made £££s in property there) there are many, many of our contemporaries on much less. Why not look all around you?

@Travelenthusiast if you do come from a ‘poor background’ I just don’t think you would be this tone deaf and certainly a lot more grateful for the comfortable circumstances you find yourself in.

Surely if the things you want aren’t affordable just budget differently e.g. spend 10k on your holiday and that gives you 5k for clothes. It’s laughable to be typing that out, surely no-one is that clueless!

Badknitter · 28/04/2025 08:53

Pantah630 · 28/04/2025 08:26

Are you taking the piss?

Also this

AlphaRadiationIsHeliumNuclei · 28/04/2025 08:53

I just don't understand. £180k a year and you don't feel well off?

Our household income is around £80k and I never have to worry about money. I feel very privileged and well off.

Where is your money going?

Firefly100 · 28/04/2025 08:52

It will almost certainly be that they don’t have your mortgage. Either they got on the housing ladder much earlier so they had equity / their purchase cost was lower, or bank of mum and dad paid a significant chunk.

RedHelenB · 28/04/2025 08:52

If you only have one child I can't understand it either.

bowsbunniesandbooks · 28/04/2025 08:52

Imagine feeling jealous of others when you have a £180k annual income, 15k holidays and a 3 bed house, when some families of the same age as you are living paycheck to paycheck, can barely keep a roof above their heads or food in their children’s bellies. Behave😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

HomeTheatreSystem · 28/04/2025 08:51

They may be higher earners, have inherited along the way or have accrued substantial debt. Whatever they have will have been earned or borrowed by them or gifted to them. It's utterly pointless looking at what others have and comparing yourselves when you won't know the details of their finances. One thing you can be sure of is if you spend more than you have you will go into debt and that is nothing to be envious of.