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To not understand how people fund their lives and feel a bit jealous?

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Travelenthusiast · 28/04/2025 08:23

Just that really. Mid-30s and we have what I have always seen as a healthy income of £180k per annum (obviously been lower when we were younger and increased over time), and had some family help - about £50k to buy our first house several years ago.

And i’m not complaining about our quality of life- I know we are lucky and can afford a good holiday every year, and a more expensive/ luxury holiday occasionally. DS does a few extra-curricular activities, we don’t have to worry about the food shop total (we aren't extravagant at all) and can afford to eat out a few times a month etc. And I know we are lucky as I grew up in a poor family and understand the stress and implications.

But we have a very modest 3-bed house (with a big mortgage), our car is ten years old and there’s no way we could replace it, we can rarely afford to replace clothes and shoes for us (of course do for DS), days out are thought through to reduce cost, would make pack lunches to take into work and don’t buy shop coffees, we could not afford private school, and often we cut out the eating out to add to savings instead- basically £ is not abundant. And we are relatively careful financially and not big spenders generally. None of this is me saying our life is bad- I know we are really luckily, but just trying to give an idea of limitations / life.

We do live in SE commuter belt (not london) where everything is very expensive.

But we are surrounded by families who have so much more, so apparently effortlessly. We are genuinely one of the only local families without a 4x4 (i know cry me a river 🤣). How do others have it all and have the big house, the new car, endless holidays, SAHM often, the new clothes, meals out, lots of savings? Is it simply that they earn much more? I know we are lucky but I just don’t understand how so many can be so wealthy? Could most of our network really have a household income over £200k?!

OP posts:
MaryOGowrie · 28/04/2025 09:32

If you're wondering why money doesn't stretch as far as you expect, it's because you're expecting too much. And there's a simple remedy for that.

CatrionaBalfour · 28/04/2025 09:31

Travelenthusiast · 28/04/2025 09:30

I’m not going to come back to thread and will ask for it deleting, as don’t want to hurt anyone.

Good call

Lentilweaver · 28/04/2025 09:31

Start a thread in money matters itemising your spending and asking for budgeting help. That will be more useful. Your money must be going somewhere.

CatrionaBalfour · 28/04/2025 09:31

Ok, to reply to your update - you need to stop looking at people and being envious of what they have. Many people could look at your life with envy, couldn't imagine ever having a gift of a house deposit, a high salary, a holiday in the Maldives.
Your money will go far, and it will give you a very comfortable, privileged lifestyle.

SpottedDonkey · 28/04/2025 09:31

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Travelenthusiast · 28/04/2025 09:30

I’m not going to come back to thread and will ask for it deleting, as don’t want to hurt anyone.

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KimberleyClark · 28/04/2025 09:29

In words of a famous tennis player - you cannot be serious!

Travelenthusiast · 28/04/2025 09:29

Gosh I am sorry- just come back from nursery run and seen all posts. Was not at all trying to cause upset or implying we are living in poverty- I don’t think that at all. I know we are lucky.

Was more wondering why £ doesn’t stretch as far as i’d expect, and why if we are so high up the income distribution as many of you say- we are surrounded by people with so much more, and how they afford it.

I have seen some helpful musings on inheritance, debt, mortgage costs, money management etc. that I hadn’t considered- thank you. And apologies to those I have upset - I am not trying to plead poverty, I know we are very lucky. I was just asking something that has been vexing me.

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MyLegoHair · 28/04/2025 09:29

Some people have more money than you. Some people have different priorities to you. Some (most?) people have better money management skills than you. Some (most) people have better awareness than you.

sugarspiceandeverythingnice12 · 28/04/2025 09:29

What you're asking is why do your neighbours have big posh cars and a seemingly limitless luxury lifestyle yet you have to scrimp and save

Firstly - by my standards you're not scrimping but I'll take you at your perception

Secondly - the neighbours either earn way more than you, have inherited wealth or are in debt

That's your answer

You sound younger than mid thirties and imo its a shame that you can't live happily without envy

DaringlyDizzy · 28/04/2025 09:28

Wow... we earn roughly half that, have a three bed, live on the commuter belt and do in fact commute into London lol.

We have two cars, go on a caravan holiday and a mini european break every year. Could afford a big international one but we like to save instead as the house needs work. We save £800 a month. There are only three of us however and whilst DS does a lot of EC we ourselves do budget carefully when it comes to the food shop, but then we also eat out twice a month.

roses2 · 28/04/2025 09:27

How are people on £100k finding money for both savings and holidays? How much are you saving on this salary after bills and holidays?

Moveoverdarlin · 28/04/2025 09:25

If you genuinely can’t afford to buy new shoes for yourself and you take home a combined income of 180k then something somewhere is going horribly wrong.

SlagPit · 28/04/2025 09:25

Good grief.

So sorry to hear that you won't be sending your child to private school, just like 93% of the population. I'm sure you'll all cope.

Dangermoo · 28/04/2025 09:24

Strawberrypicnic · 28/04/2025 09:14

You shouldn't get a 4x4 even if you can afford one

I would say that's the car purchaser's choice, not yours.

Viviennemary · 28/04/2025 09:24

Not sure why you are complaining. But not affording new clothes, shoes and coffees out on a household income of £ 180k a year is kind of ridiculous. Has one of you got a gambling habit.

mickandrorty · 28/04/2025 09:24

Have you considered taking in some ironing to earn some extra money? 😂

Bjorkdidit · 28/04/2025 09:22

If the mortgage after a £50k deposit on your 'very modest' 3 bed house feels big on an £180k pa income , then it's unlikely it's actually that modest in reality.

It's a common problem on here. People spend their money on the most expensive version of everything and then complain their money doesn't go very far and they 'can't afford anything nice'. I bet your grocery bill is twice the national average. Plus you're apparently looking at £15k holidays.

So you've chosen to live in an expensive area, you probably fill your trolley with abundance at the supermarket without a second thought, and you're spending the price of a very decent second hand car on a holiday. Your 'financially careful and not big spenders' probably looks like 'we feel like millionaires' to the majority of the population.

Pickingmyselfup · 28/04/2025 09:21

Perhaps try spending less on a holiday? If you really are spending £15K on them then that's an insane amount even for that income.

We earn less than half you and we struggle to afford a non luxury overseas holiday (prices last night £5K nearly for a week although that is all inclusive but I think for us we get close to our moneys worth when you compare the same holiday but SC)

However we spend a lot day to day, don't worry about replacing shoes/clothes so that's where we differ. If I didn't spend a fortune on fitness coaches/physio/running then we might not balk at 5K. We also don't have a big mortgage because we bought several years ago and haven't upsized. We technically could but then our lifestyle would drop and we would find ourselves working just to pay the mortgage and I'm not sure it's worth it.

It is frustrating that money doesn't go as far as you once thought it would but everyone has to make compromises somehow unless you are mega rich. I'm glad we don't have to worry about feeding/clothing everybody, putting the heating on even if sometimes I have a little sulk that I can't afford a nice holiday.

Langdale3 · 28/04/2025 09:21

Come on OP. Surely someone capable of earning a salary at that level would have arrived at their mid thirties with more awareness of how this post will go down with readers on average or low incomes?

But in case this post is real, ….it’s down to priorities. I prioritise travel and time with family over cars, clothes and eating out. I don’t look or act ‘rich’. And I am fine with that. It filters out shallow money obsessed people.

It sounds from your user name that you also prioritise travel over a bigger house or a smarter car. That’s ok. Just own it and be confident in your choices. You aren’t obliged to explain your priorities to anyone. If you really want a bigger house / car, cut back on holidays and eating out.

If you’ve not grown up with this kind of affluence, it’s easy to imagine that such a salary will buy a millionaire lifestyle. But it won’t, not in the South East of England!

notsureyetcertain · 28/04/2025 09:20

You live in a affluent area obviously those around you either earn more, budget better, have lower out goings or lots of debt.

Do some budgeting, write down what you spend and see where you are going wrong. We have a joint income of approximately 90k it’s around 5k a month our outgoings are-

mortgage 600
house bills approx 1000
food approx 800
petrol approx 300
Dog walker 200
Expenses (clubs, gym, childcare etc) 500

That leave 1600. We save/invest £900 and over pay on mortgage by £200 so that leaves £500 which usually getting mopped up with car expenses, birthdays, days out etc. We rarely eat out, buy second hand clothes (by choice). If we were more careful/cut back we could save another £1k a month I reckon . We have one child and one adult child at home. We go on one abroad holiday a year budget 3k and usually one or two weekend breaks.

You either have big expenses or don’t live within your means.

Starlight7080 · 28/04/2025 09:20

neverknowinglyunreasonable · 28/04/2025 08:32

Do you have a Just Giving page I could donate to?

This is a good idea. It sounds like they deserve a bigger house and new car

Digdongdoo · 28/04/2025 09:19

That's a budgeting issue. It might not be mega riches, but you should be very comfortable indeed on that income. If you're not, you need to seriously reassess your lifestyle and expenditure.
Perhaps drop the second Maldives trip and save instead?

Middlechild3 · 28/04/2025 09:18

Pantah630 · 28/04/2025 08:26

Are you taking the piss?

I do like it when people are direct 😄

AndImBrit · 28/04/2025 09:18

I live in the north on what is probably a similar combined salary.

We put probably £2k gross salary into pension a month, and a further £2,750 into savings (although £1k of that is saving for in year spend, like home improvements or holidays).

We have two non 4x4 cars (8 and 5 years old) and a 3 bed detached house (mortgage of £1,500 pm). Admittedly no kids, but a dog that probably has £200+ spent on her a month.

Even if my mortgage costs doubled (to allow for bigger house prices in the south), I could still afford a new top of the range 4x4 on top of my current expenses on some sort of finance deal, but I choose not to as I’m saving for the future. I probably spend £15k a year on holidays that could easily cut back on if I had other priorities.

I definitely don’t need to pack a packed lunch on a day out.

If at that level of salary you can’t afford it, you need to look at your spending habits as either you’re saving so much it’s impacting your day to day life (fine if you want to make that trade off) or you are frittering money away somewhere mindlessly.

I know that others near me are spending more on cars because they’re not spending as much on holidays, or home improvements or saving as much as I am. You need to understand what decision you’re making differently to rationalise your spending differences.