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To not understand how people fund their lives and feel a bit jealous?

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Travelenthusiast · 28/04/2025 08:23

Just that really. Mid-30s and we have what I have always seen as a healthy income of £180k per annum (obviously been lower when we were younger and increased over time), and had some family help - about £50k to buy our first house several years ago.

And i’m not complaining about our quality of life- I know we are lucky and can afford a good holiday every year, and a more expensive/ luxury holiday occasionally. DS does a few extra-curricular activities, we don’t have to worry about the food shop total (we aren't extravagant at all) and can afford to eat out a few times a month etc. And I know we are lucky as I grew up in a poor family and understand the stress and implications.

But we have a very modest 3-bed house (with a big mortgage), our car is ten years old and there’s no way we could replace it, we can rarely afford to replace clothes and shoes for us (of course do for DS), days out are thought through to reduce cost, would make pack lunches to take into work and don’t buy shop coffees, we could not afford private school, and often we cut out the eating out to add to savings instead- basically £ is not abundant. And we are relatively careful financially and not big spenders generally. None of this is me saying our life is bad- I know we are really luckily, but just trying to give an idea of limitations / life.

We do live in SE commuter belt (not london) where everything is very expensive.

But we are surrounded by families who have so much more, so apparently effortlessly. We are genuinely one of the only local families without a 4x4 (i know cry me a river 🤣). How do others have it all and have the big house, the new car, endless holidays, SAHM often, the new clothes, meals out, lots of savings? Is it simply that they earn much more? I know we are lucky but I just don’t understand how so many can be so wealthy? Could most of our network really have a household income over £200k?!

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RosaMoline · 28/04/2025 11:48

These kind of threads make me really angry. I too live in SE, close to London but make do on £31,000 a year. Just me and the cat though. The only light on the horizon is that when my parent’s property is sold, I’ll be in receipt of the main portion of my inheritance.

Yes, OP is definitely taking the piss!!!

Ted27 · 28/04/2025 11:47

I never usually respond to such posts
I don't care that there are people who earn 4 or 5 times what I do. I'm happy and content with my life.

But what really baffles me is that people in jobs which command these sorts of salaries seem incapable of working out why or how other people appear to have 'more' than them. Or maybe if they cut their holiday budget by a few thousand, they might have more money for other things.

TheNinthLock · 28/04/2025 11:46

Holy fudge! You are definitely taking the piss.
Most of us get by relatively comfortably on much, much less than that.

I hate this phrase, but check your privilige!

Lastgig · 28/04/2025 11:45

We live an hour from London and the cost can be £900 a month in train fares. I now only accept wfh contracts and that goes down like a lead balloon. I'm retiring at the end of the year and selling my shares in a company I helped found. Without that I wouldn't have much of a retirement fund due to financial loss (criminal business partners) and having to stop work due to caring responsibilities and serious ill health. I have earnt more than your income but contracts can get cancelled and it's a struggle to get paid. Contractors also have frequent voids.
Stop spending like water and put some funds away. I used all my personal savings over a year of being ill. You never know what's around the corner.

Flightfromhell · 28/04/2025 11:32

I think the problem is you'd expect that when earning £180k a year - you'd be able to afford to buy anything you want but you can't - it's not enough, no amount ever will be - people just expect more and more. I think it might help to try and focus on being more grateful and I don't mean to be snarky when I say this.
And sometimes people don't have as much money as you think they do - our in-laws asked us for a large sum of money to help deal with financial difficulty there were in- we didn't have it - we'd spent all our money on a house renovation- they didn't believe us and it really affected our relationships with them. From my pov - because they saw us as a cash cow - they think we lied.

Skandar · 28/04/2025 11:32

Have you considered taking in ironing?

But seriously, there seems to be so many of these threads lately. I think its a combination of 1) cost of living has gone up considerably, which means that your ££s don't go as far, 2) determination to compare yourself with others - without knowing where other people might be scrimping or putting themselves in debt in order to prioritise holidays/cars whatever, 3) a weird expectation that by mid-30s you should be so comfortably financially to be able to have a massive house/holiday wherever and whenever you like (probably linked to point 2). The reality is that the vast majority of the population spend most of their working life spending most of their money on their mortgage/rent, bills and children, and only find themselves 'comfortable' (if ever) when they're older and get some sort of a windfall (inheritance/redundancy payout/private pension).

toomuchfaff · 28/04/2025 11:28

Salary Calculator- Google- 2x 90k salaries equates to £10,460 per month.

And you can't afford anything? Do you have a bank account you look at?

Turns out the DH is a massive gambler with a penchant for the prostitutes on a Tuesday.

Marchhare80 · 28/04/2025 11:23

That should say 'teen is' not tennis

Shortbreadstar · 28/04/2025 11:22

Unthinkablebuttrue · 28/04/2025 09:36

I kind of know what you mean OP. I often wonder how people afford their lifestyles. It's not like 30 years ago when some people had a fancy car hardly any folk that I knew though, and I lived in a salubrious area). But now it seems like everybody has an Audi, Range Rover, or Tesla. Strange times.

The Tesla one I can help explain - my husband’s company car scheme is any car as long as it’s electric and a very fancy looking Tesla was the cheapest car big enough to hold the kids and the pram 🤷‍♀️ I bet a lot
of Tesla’s are being driven by people lucky enough to access similar benefit schemes (as there’s no way we’d have chosen one without it being through the company benefits)

Marchhare80 · 28/04/2025 11:22

Yes, lots of people in the south east are richer than you. We live in London and it is a fact of life that you are surrounded by very, very wealthy people. You sound like one of my children before I have to remind them of how lucky they are. My tennis lucky enough to go to a private school and thinks he's poor as we don't live a flash lifestyle. It is difficult when surround by such wealth(humans naturally compare themselves with those around them), but try not to lose sight of your privilege and be content with what you have.

Loubylie · 28/04/2025 11:20

You spend a lot and they spend even more.
They earn more than you.
They inherited more than you.
They have debt.
They don't save.
Who knows? Who cares?

alsohappenedoverhere · 28/04/2025 11:13

All the people jumping on this thread to whine that they earn a 10th of that are totally missing the point. Not all of us are satisfied at scraping by. UK has become a low wage society and now, even if you are a very high earner it is impossible to have the trappings of wealth unless you either bought your home 20 years ago (like me) or have significant money from non earned sources. It’s a downward spiral and terrible. What is the point in being ambitious.

orangedream · 28/04/2025 11:00

Is a large percentage of your income going into savings or pensions? Sometimes people do that and almost forget that they are living on only part of their salary and feel it's not going far.

Jannilindlands · 28/04/2025 11:00

I'm convinced that posts like these are showing off look at how well off we are posts.

PinkyFlamingo · 28/04/2025 11:00

There is no way on earth you can't afford clothes and shoes on your earnings! So you clearly were trying to wind people up!

Tbrh · 28/04/2025 10:55

You must be doing something really wrong

Lentilweaver · 28/04/2025 10:52

Judging by your name, you prioritise travel. So do I.

But because I have some other large family expenses, I stay in bargain AirBNBs. My last holiday was to Greece in December and I paid Euro 50 per day for an AirBNB. It was perfectly fine.
I would rather travel, have weekends and go to the theatre than run a car in London where I really don;t need it, so we got rid of our car.
My clothes are mostly from M and S, Uniqlo, Albaray, and charity shops.

Even high earners have to make choices.

Richiewoo · 28/04/2025 10:52

Oh please. Come back when you have real problems.

LadyGillingham · 28/04/2025 10:51

OP, you are stealth boasting to cover your insecurities . I can also guess that you somehow made your mumsnet ID known to people around you so they think you are rich.
If you have a budget of £15k for a holiday, you can absolutely afford a SUV.

TuxedoJunction · 28/04/2025 10:50

Sofiewoo · 28/04/2025 10:31

£400 council tax? I don’t think there’s a tax bracket in the UK that even comes close to that! Your figures are obviously just plucked from the air.

Ours is over £400 month….we’re in East Sussex. Plenty of other Councils are around this amount if not more depending on the property banding.

yeesh · 28/04/2025 10:47

180k and can’t afford clothes, fuck off 💩

TeenLifeMum · 28/04/2025 10:46

I think you just sound terrible at budgeting. £15k on a holiday but can’t afford a newer car?

Summerseagull · 28/04/2025 10:46

Take aways cost money as does a nice holiday each year
A lot of people pay £400 a month to lease a new car
But you spend that money on holidays and takeaways .
You can't have it all wAys

AndImBrit · 28/04/2025 10:46

Imbusytodaysorry · 28/04/2025 10:16

@Travelenthusiast i am actually intrigued. Do you know how much your outgoings are from your £15k a month income ?
Can you do a break down then people can see what you downs your money on if you don’t know.

This is just disingenuous. Our household income is about £165k, and that equates to c. £7.5k of take home. So a lot of the £15k you refer to is gone in tax before it hits the bank.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 28/04/2025 10:44

Pantah630 · 28/04/2025 08:26

Are you taking the piss?

Think so 😂
Obviously bored