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To feel that breastfeeding is undermined?

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Olive96 · 28/04/2025 05:12

I am currently breastfeeding my son. I can’t help but feel that in an effort to reassure formula feeding families, breastfeeding is totally undermined.

for the record, I think it’s totally fine to feed babies however you want but the truth is that I chose to try extremely hard to breastfeed because of all the benefits. People will say things like ‘formula is so good now there’s basically no difference’ etc. are these statements true or just an attempt to justify (which I don’t think is necessary) FF.

I am proud of persevering with breastfeeding - even saying that I feel like I’ll get flamed, but it’s true - it did take a lot of effort and perseverance, it was hard! and I want to be able to say that and be proud of the achievement without being accused of being up myself or out of order.

I’m starting to feel flat about there being no point to it at all

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Thatsalineallright · 28/04/2025 09:30

Olive96 · 28/04/2025 09:26

If they don’t care why are they asking haha. I’ll go to feed her in public atm and I’d say 6/10 times (more if I just include baby groups) people will comment or ask why I’m continuing.

I don’t not give my reasons because I’m immature or unassertive, I just don’t enjoy upsetting people and I feel like positivity around breastfeeding does upset people (and is even more likely to upset a person that’s asking)

Honestly, OP, I would just have a set phrase ready to go. "Oh, I've decided that that's what's best for us". The end.

Olive96 · 28/04/2025 09:30

TheIceBear · 28/04/2025 09:28

@Olive96 well you certainly have no issue asserting yourself here to strangers on a forum including ones who have admitted they had terrible struggles with breastfeeding and feel guilty

Well it’s a debate forum (especially the AIBU sections) so yeah, obviously? 🤨

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Parker231 · 28/04/2025 09:29

Olive96 · 28/04/2025 09:28

Yeah I wish I could edit the post to take out my 5am wording haha. I didn’t really mean no point! I’m just finding the questioning hard and don’t really feel like I have the opportunity to defend my choices without upsetting the people asking - it’s a strange dynamic

Are these friends asking or strangers?

Olive96 · 28/04/2025 09:28

JLou08 · 28/04/2025 09:24

I've never heard anyone say formula is just as good, I have heard breast is best a lot.
Why do you feel there's no point to you breast feeding? Are you doing it because it's best for baby or because you want praise from other people?

Yeah I wish I could edit the post to take out my 5am wording haha. I didn’t really mean no point! I’m just finding the questioning hard and don’t really feel like I have the opportunity to defend my choices without upsetting the people asking - it’s a strange dynamic

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TheIceBear · 28/04/2025 09:28

@Olive96 well you certainly have no issue asserting yourself here to strangers on a forum including ones who have admitted they had terrible struggles with breastfeeding and feel guilty

Olive96 · 28/04/2025 09:26

TheIceBear · 28/04/2025 09:24

@Olive96 immature for worrying about people asking why you are breastfeeding when in reality no one actually cares. You said you would LOVE to give your reasons but won’t.. well maybe learn to be more assertive then if that’s how you feel.

If they don’t care why are they asking haha. I’ll go to feed her in public atm and I’d say 6/10 times (more if I just include baby groups) people will comment or ask why I’m continuing.

I don’t not give my reasons because I’m immature or unassertive, I just don’t enjoy upsetting people and I feel like positivity around breastfeeding does upset people (and is even more likely to upset a person that’s asking)

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Motherofdragons24 · 28/04/2025 09:25

Yeah this. Formula fed first, breastfed second, never experienced any negativity or praise/admiration for either. Can’t really say it was much of a topic of conversation at all tbh.

I’m starting to feel flat about there being no point to it at al

i don’t really understand this though. Surely the point of it is all the benefits that you say you have researched? Do you mean there is no point because there’s no praise for it? Most pregnant women intend to breastfeed based on the statistics and for whatever reasons for a lot of them it doesn’t work out and they end up FF so yes I think these mothers should be reassured by professionals and society that it is ok. That their child will not be harmed by FF. That their child is being fed nutritious safe food which will help them thrive and that is what is important because of course it’s hard for mothers when they don’t feel they are giving their child “the best”. I suspect that breastfeeding mothers don’t have the same level of misplaced guilt therefore don’t need that reassurance.

TheIceBear · 28/04/2025 09:24

@Olive96 immature for worrying about people asking why you are breastfeeding when in reality no one actually cares. You said you would LOVE to give your reasons but won’t.. well maybe learn to be more assertive then if that’s how you feel.

JLou08 · 28/04/2025 09:24

I've never heard anyone say formula is just as good, I have heard breast is best a lot.
Why do you feel there's no point to you breast feeding? Are you doing it because it's best for baby or because you want praise from other people?

Thatsalineallright · 28/04/2025 09:22

ThatBusyPanda · 28/04/2025 09:07

You’re right, I could have scrolled past but to be honest I’m glad I’ve given you another perspective. You talk about all the effort of breastfeeding as if I didn’t put that in. I didn’t sleep for weeks, I own 5 different pumps, tried everything, hired a lactation consultant and still got nothing more than drops of milk with my baby losing weight in front of my eyes. And still I’m made to feel like I took the easy way out.

With respect, you're making this all about you and reading it as an attack when it really isn't. No one is saying you took "the easy way out".

You feeling guilty or whatever shouldn't mean that the OP can't say here on an anonymous forum "I'm really glad I worked hard and managed to bb my child".

That statement is about the op, not you. It doesn't mean you didn't work hard (you could well have worked harder than her!). It doesn't matter because the OP isn't actually comparing herself with you.

If I say "I'm really proud that I ran that marathon" all I'm talking about is myself and my experience. Sure, others might have tried and been unable to run, some might not care about marathons, others might have run ultra marathons, whatever, why can't I be proud of my achievement?

BF versus ff is obviously a much more emotive subject, but if we all tried to dial down the emotion then surely everyone would be happier.

I'm sure there's loads of things you've done for your child that you should feel proud of. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to share that with friends and family without being called smug?

Olive96 · 28/04/2025 09:22

TheIceBear · 28/04/2025 09:20

@Olive96 you sound very immature to be honest , if this is causing you so much angst maybe you should learn to be more assertive.

immature? How so?

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Olive96 · 28/04/2025 09:21

IDipYouDipWeDip · 28/04/2025 09:18

I think you’ll look back at your thread and cringe in a few years OP. It’s easy to get all consumed by the bf v ff thing when you have a baby if you let yourself. In time you’ll realise that there is so much more to raising a child than how you fed them. Often these mums go on to worry overly about screen time or something else because they have to replace their campaign on breastfeeding as they feel empty.

I have a relative who ‘felt proud’ and saw it as an ‘achievement’ that she breastfed years ago. She was quite difficult to be around as no one really wanted to talk about it, we wanted to just get on with life. A few years ago, she acknowledged that she was ‘a bit of a nob’ about it all and we had a laugh.

I say that as a mum who breasted my children until they were 12-18 months. I rarely think about it now, I’ve never been asked in a medical setting how they were fed since they were babies.

Have you read the thread and seen it’s not me that’s bothered?

yep I’m proud, it does feel like a personal achievement but not one I’m fussed about talking about.

what’s making me feel flat is now being met with ‘why are you still bothering’ comments and feeling like I can’t be at all positive about BF’ing in my response

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TheIceBear · 28/04/2025 09:20

@Olive96 you sound very immature to be honest , if this is causing you so much angst maybe you should learn to be more assertive.

IDipYouDipWeDip · 28/04/2025 09:18

I think you’ll look back at your thread and cringe in a few years OP. It’s easy to get all consumed by the bf v ff thing when you have a baby if you let yourself. In time you’ll realise that there is so much more to raising a child than how you fed them. Often these mums go on to worry overly about screen time or something else because they have to replace their campaign on breastfeeding as they feel empty.

I have a relative who ‘felt proud’ and saw it as an ‘achievement’ that she breastfed years ago. She was quite difficult to be around as no one really wanted to talk about it, we wanted to just get on with life. A few years ago, she acknowledged that she was ‘a bit of a nob’ about it all and we had a laugh.

I say that as a mum who breasted my children until they were 12-18 months. I rarely think about it now, I’ve never been asked in a medical setting how they were fed since they were babies.

HarpSnail · 28/04/2025 09:17

ThatBusyPanda · 28/04/2025 09:07

You’re right, I could have scrolled past but to be honest I’m glad I’ve given you another perspective. You talk about all the effort of breastfeeding as if I didn’t put that in. I didn’t sleep for weeks, I own 5 different pumps, tried everything, hired a lactation consultant and still got nothing more than drops of milk with my baby losing weight in front of my eyes. And still I’m made to feel like I took the easy way out.

Agreed. I would never downplay or criticise someone else for being able to BF, and I’ve worked through my own guilt and grief about not being able to, but yes to this. I put in endless, completely fruitless efforts — I was pumping all the time, barely getting enough to cover the bottom of a bottle, I was going out and about with a very new baby with a supplemental nursing system, trying to stimulate supply by taping tubes to my nipples (under the nipple shields I had to use because I have flat nipples) and hanging a bag of formula around my neck. I felt like a malfunctioning cyborg. It was miserable. And yes, I did have total strangers criticising me for FF.

Olive96 · 28/04/2025 09:17

availablecupcake · 28/04/2025 09:14

This is the case with quite a few things in life, not just how you feed your baby. If you were successful in doing something that some people weren’t able to do, just keep your mouth shut. Otherwise there’s a risk it sounds like gloating and people don’t like that.

But people are literally asking me!!! Currently I feel like I should downplay the benefits it’s having for me and my baby and just shrug it off. Someone said to say ‘we worked really hard to establish breastfeeding so I’m going to continue as long as it works’ I’d LOVE to say this to defend my choices, but I don’t think it would be well received at all!

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availablecupcake · 28/04/2025 09:14

Olive96 · 28/04/2025 05:38

Well we talk about experiences all the time to process them, right?

but I’m not saying I want to talk about it constantly - it’s more being exposed to conversation/debate about it and feeling as though I’m the bad guy in that so have to keep my mouth shut about my experience

This is the case with quite a few things in life, not just how you feed your baby. If you were successful in doing something that some people weren’t able to do, just keep your mouth shut. Otherwise there’s a risk it sounds like gloating and people don’t like that.

Olive96 · 28/04/2025 09:14

ThatBusyPanda · 28/04/2025 09:07

You’re right, I could have scrolled past but to be honest I’m glad I’ve given you another perspective. You talk about all the effort of breastfeeding as if I didn’t put that in. I didn’t sleep for weeks, I own 5 different pumps, tried everything, hired a lactation consultant and still got nothing more than drops of milk with my baby losing weight in front of my eyes. And still I’m made to feel like I took the easy way out.

Your perspective is one I’m very familiar with. People seem to have no issue informing me of their struggles (usually when I’m feeding my baby in public) which makes me feel like I’m doing something wrong.

i would never feel comfortable being as open about my experience feeding as you have been about yours!

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Createausernameplease · 28/04/2025 09:14

I’ve breastfed and formula fed and found formula 100x harder. No one actually cares how you feed your child unless you’re literally blending up kfc into their bottle. I found with breastfeeding I found the want to justify why I was breastfeeding to others, when in reality they didn’t care and usually were asking questions out of curiosity not judgement.

For what it’s worth we moved my son onto formula as he had severe allergic reactions when I breastfed which turned out to be to soy and I didn’t want to take the risk with accidentally ingesting it and causing him difficulties

SouthLondonMum22 · 28/04/2025 09:08

People who try and justify formula feeding their baby likely started out desperately trying to breastfeed and for whatever reason, it didn't work out. They feel guilty and like people don't think they tried hard enough which only gets worse when people start talking about how proud they are of breastfeeding because they tried so hard to make it work.

I formula fed from birth so it's different for me, I never tried and never wanted to try so it isn't emotive for me and I don't have any guilt for formula feeding because it's what I wanted to do.

Olive96 · 28/04/2025 09:08

policeandthebeef · 28/04/2025 09:06

Well this is all very dramatic!

Why?

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ThatBusyPanda · 28/04/2025 09:07

Olive96 · 28/04/2025 08:56

This obviously makes me feel awful. But with respect, from the title of the thread you probably could’ve gathered that it would be triggering for you and you didn’t need to use energy engaging.

and this really is my whole point, if you try and even discuss breastfeeding you are made to feel like a dick but at the same time I’m expected to defend continuing past 6 months? It’s like people who BF are expected to absorb the negativity and be confident enough in their decisions to be questioned (but also NEVER discuss it unless questioned!?) to make people who FF more confident about doing so. It doesn’t feel totally fair.

Edited

You’re right, I could have scrolled past but to be honest I’m glad I’ve given you another perspective. You talk about all the effort of breastfeeding as if I didn’t put that in. I didn’t sleep for weeks, I own 5 different pumps, tried everything, hired a lactation consultant and still got nothing more than drops of milk with my baby losing weight in front of my eyes. And still I’m made to feel like I took the easy way out.

policeandthebeef · 28/04/2025 09:07

OP if you've come here for validation, congratulations on feeding your baby. Just like every other mother has fed their baby, whether breast or FF.

Olive96 · 28/04/2025 09:06

Parker231 · 28/04/2025 09:04

Why do you want to talk about it? We have all fed our babies so we know about it whether it be formula or bf. It isn’t something to be proud about

Have you read my replies? I’m not bothered about taking about it. But when people ask me why I’m bothering to continue I’d like to feel able to be positive - if doesn’t feel an acceptable thing to do. Like my positivity is at the expense of ff mums

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TheIceBear · 28/04/2025 09:06

@Olive96 maybe it depends on your circle. I know plenty of people who breastfed until 2 years and beyond and no one batted an eyelid. Why do you even care anyway ? If people ask you why you are bothering just give them the reasons why.