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Finding it hard not to resent friend on benefits

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ArlJudey · 27/04/2025 18:20

I’m friends with a woman, she has 4 kids all fairly young still. She’s single (dad not in the country so no maintenance), she lives in a 3 bed council house that is nicer than my home (okay she got lucky as I know some of the council houses around here are awful but she’s in a lovely spacious house). She works 15 hours a week, above minimum wage but I don’t know by how much, she gets UC and child benefit and Scottish child payment on top of this, I know she doesn’t have any family help etc.

Anyway met with this friend today and she complained that she can’t afford to go anywhere nice on holiday, she’s going to Egypt in the summer for the week; last year she went to Greece so she’s hardly slumming it. She brags about having no debt at all, her kids have nice clothes (though I know she is a Vinted wizard), doesn’t seem to struggle at Christmas, uses gousto every week etc.

AIBU to resent that she seems to have a much nicer life than I do with 2 kids working full time (also single). I know there are some obvious differences like I have a small amount of debt I’m paying off and have a car to pay for/fuel/insure.
I really don’t get how on benefits she’s doing it!

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XenoBitch · 09/12/2025 00:12

boredwfh · 09/12/2025 00:09

My friend had a terrible accident and had to have several operations to repair it. She’s not worked for at least 3 years. She is well recovered now could definitely work but chooses not to as she has been on full pip & it’s just been renewed for another two years at the highest rate. It’s insane. She readily admits she’s lazy; she is a stay at home wife no children: hubby earns £150k plus a year so fully supported there. Plus PIP for pocket money. She also got 10’s of thousands in comp for the accident on top of PIP. This fact. I do wonder what to say sometimes to her. I really don’t think it’s for people like her who have savings, can physically buy chooses not to as her a husband to also support her

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She wont be on UC though. Her DH earn too much for her to be able to claim it. PIP is not means tested and is nothing to do with what her DH earns. If her PIP has just been reassessed and she is still getting the high rate, then she is still in need of it and also still disabled.

She is being supported by her DH. She is doing nothing wrong at all.

I am sure she wishes she didn't have the accident and had to have multiple operations. You sound like an awful friend.

boredwfh · 09/12/2025 00:09

My friend had a terrible accident and had to have several operations to repair it. She’s not worked for at least 3 years. She is well recovered now could definitely work but chooses not to as she has been on full pip & it’s just been renewed for another two years at the highest rate. It’s insane. She readily admits she’s lazy; she is a stay at home wife no children: hubby earns £150k plus a year so fully supported there. Plus PIP for pocket money. She also got 10’s of thousands in comp for the accident on top of PIP. This fact. I do wonder what to say sometimes to her. I really don’t think it’s for people like her who have savings, can physically buy chooses not to as her a husband to also support her

nomas · 08/12/2025 23:27

Hollyaddy · 27/04/2025 18:22

The way I look at this is the kids will grow up soon Enough. Scp stops at 16. Uc will stop or reduce when kids adults so she will need to work then.

Try not to focus on her. You're setting a good example to your kids working and in 15 years when they are adults yiu will have many years of work behind you. Promotions pay rises etc.

Will it stop though? I know people getting it as their kids are at university. And I don't begrudge it to them, the kids are working hard to build careers for themselves. They'll be high rate tax payers in the future.

sunshinestar1986 · 08/12/2025 23:11

ArlJudey · 27/04/2025 18:20

I’m friends with a woman, she has 4 kids all fairly young still. She’s single (dad not in the country so no maintenance), she lives in a 3 bed council house that is nicer than my home (okay she got lucky as I know some of the council houses around here are awful but she’s in a lovely spacious house). She works 15 hours a week, above minimum wage but I don’t know by how much, she gets UC and child benefit and Scottish child payment on top of this, I know she doesn’t have any family help etc.

Anyway met with this friend today and she complained that she can’t afford to go anywhere nice on holiday, she’s going to Egypt in the summer for the week; last year she went to Greece so she’s hardly slumming it. She brags about having no debt at all, her kids have nice clothes (though I know she is a Vinted wizard), doesn’t seem to struggle at Christmas, uses gousto every week etc.

AIBU to resent that she seems to have a much nicer life than I do with 2 kids working full time (also single). I know there are some obvious differences like I have a small amount of debt I’m paying off and have a car to pay for/fuel/insure.
I really don’t get how on benefits she’s doing it!

Easily done init OP
Pop out 2 more kids and if you're in a relationship, kick them out.
Drop your hours to 15 hours a week and go live your amazing life.
Holidays to Egypt and amazing clothes off vinted 👏
You've really found the secret to wealth and happiness.
What are you waiting for?

SapphireSeptember · 13/05/2025 23:16

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/04/2025 22:32

Thanks for that.Thanks I'm seeing a mile wide streak of misogyny there too, along with zero understanding of human relationships.

They've been spouting the same nonsense all over the place. I'm glad it's not just me who's noticed.

TooBigForMyBoots · 01/05/2025 15:11

Or brownie points from the patriarchy.🤨

XenoBitch · 30/04/2025 22:42

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/04/2025 22:32

Thanks for that.Thanks I'm seeing a mile wide streak of misogyny there too, along with zero understanding of human relationships.

All of their comments have been shocking TBH.
Totally empathy bypass. I am sure they could claim PIP for that.

XenoBitch · 30/04/2025 22:41

OutcomeAdmin · 30/04/2025 22:28

TV, tattoos and takeaway

Does channel 5 still exist? Sounds like a great name for a new benefit-bashing show.

I am going to start a punk-rock band, and call it that...TV, Tatts and Takeway! Fingers up to the system!

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/04/2025 22:32

OutcomeAdmin · 30/04/2025 18:55

That poster is childfree I believe. And has quite strong views on children in general.. It may explain some of their opinions here.

Thanks for that.Thanks I'm seeing a mile wide streak of misogyny there too, along with zero understanding of human relationships.

OutcomeAdmin · 30/04/2025 22:28

TV, tattoos and takeaway

Does channel 5 still exist? Sounds like a great name for a new benefit-bashing show.

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/04/2025 22:16

TheHerboriste · 30/04/2025 21:40

So? That should certainly be doable. I bet they spend more on TV, tattoos and takeaway in that same period of time.

What's the alternative? Expect the taxpayers to provide ad infinitum?

Do you actually bet or are you just imagining things and then believing they are true because you imagined them? There's a lot of that on the internet.

Solipsism is shite. Get with reality.

MereNoelle · 30/04/2025 21:45

TheHerboriste · 30/04/2025 21:40

So? That should certainly be doable. I bet they spend more on TV, tattoos and takeaway in that same period of time.

What's the alternative? Expect the taxpayers to provide ad infinitum?

As I said, just likes to be controversial.

TheHerboriste · 30/04/2025 21:40

FedupofArsenalgame · 30/04/2025 20:59

£50 a month from age 20-35. That's 50x12x15. .I make that £9000. And double that for the other one.

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So? That should certainly be doable. I bet they spend more on TV, tattoos and takeaway in that same period of time.

What's the alternative? Expect the taxpayers to provide ad infinitum?

BlueandWhitePorcelain · 30/04/2025 21:04

TheHerboriste · 30/04/2025 20:01

People can do entry level work early in their working life, and move up, leaving the entry level jobs for junior workers.

There is little career progression for most careworkers. What would happen to all those in need of care, if all careworkers moved onto higher paid jobs at age 30?!

People can end up needing care at a cost of £250,000 pa (the most I have ever heard of is £600,000 pa). I am curious to know if your insurance policy covers costs on that scale for the rest of your life at £50 - £100 pcm?

FedupofArsenalgame · 30/04/2025 20:59

TheHerboriste · 30/04/2025 19:19

It doesn't take thousands. Income protection for someone in their 30s is less than £50 a month.. And less for life insurance. Can't afford £100 a month for risk management, can't afford the kids. Simple.

£50 a month from age 20-35. That's 50x12x15. .I make that £9000. And double that for the other one.

XenoBitch · 30/04/2025 20:17

TheHerboriste · 30/04/2025 20:01

People can do entry level work early in their working life, and move up, leaving the entry level jobs for junior workers.

A lot of jobs are not entry level. They are dead end. They also tend to be the ones most vital to the efficient running of society. The ones people clapped for during Covid.
The job I was in had no room for progression at all apart from up to supervisor. Much more stress for very little more money. A few of my colleagues went up to supervisor, just to come back down again after a year or so.

Some people are just not cut out for anything other than the lower paid jobs. And that is fine too.

Saltedbuttertree · 30/04/2025 20:17

TheHerboriste · 30/04/2025 20:01

People can do entry level work early in their working life, and move up, leaving the entry level jobs for junior workers.

I just want to know how much you would of hated me who had a child at 16 and didn't get a job till they started school 😂 I'm glad I was too stupid to know people thought this way it would of been a little depressing.

Also what would you of done if you had a child when you were young and dumb would you of killed yourself to not inconvenience anyone else? Just curious

TheHerboriste · 30/04/2025 20:01

MereNoelle · 30/04/2025 19:37

If everyone has a ‘career’, who does the low paid jobs like retail work, nursery workers, carers etc? Or do those people not get to have children?

People can do entry level work early in their working life, and move up, leaving the entry level jobs for junior workers.

MereNoelle · 30/04/2025 19:41

XenoBitch · 30/04/2025 19:39

It really sounds like that is what they are getting at, doesn't it.

To be honest, I’m not sure this poster even believes what she’s saying. She just likes being controversial.

XenoBitch · 30/04/2025 19:39

MereNoelle · 30/04/2025 19:37

If everyone has a ‘career’, who does the low paid jobs like retail work, nursery workers, carers etc? Or do those people not get to have children?

It really sounds like that is what they are getting at, doesn't it.

MereNoelle · 30/04/2025 19:37

TheHerboriste · 30/04/2025 19:31

It's called "a career."

If everyone has a ‘career’, who does the low paid jobs like retail work, nursery workers, carers etc? Or do those people not get to have children?

XenoBitch · 30/04/2025 19:34

TheHerboriste · 30/04/2025 19:31

It's called "a career."

Not everyone is capable of a career. Or are you suggesting that people who do the vital but low paid jobs not have kids?

And in the case of OP's friend, she does have a career. She is still working, albeit less hours.

TheHerboriste · 30/04/2025 19:31

XenoBitch · 30/04/2025 19:22

There is no insurance scheme that protects against the fall out of divorce... or a scheme that exists in case an absent father refuses to pay for his own kids.

It's called "a career."

XenoBitch · 30/04/2025 19:26

madaboutpurple · 30/04/2025 19:24

I am sure your friend would prefer not having to rely on benefits. She no doubt has to go to meetings about working more hours. Not every firm wants staff to be on more hours. It can be difficult for claimants.

You don't have to work or look for work if you have a child under 3 (OP's friend's youngest is 2). She is working 15 hours though out of choice.

madaboutpurple · 30/04/2025 19:24

I am sure your friend would prefer not having to rely on benefits. She no doubt has to go to meetings about working more hours. Not every firm wants staff to be on more hours. It can be difficult for claimants.