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Thunderpants88 · 27/04/2025 15:09

So I called out of hours two nights ago and got an emergency prescription for 8x5 mgs Valium

they sent it to the wrong pharmacist-to one that is closed over the weekend. I rang back and they refaced it to an open pharmacy.

my husband picked up the original script from the open pharmacy but I rang the other one which was open for an hour today and they said it was also there waiting collection.

question. What happens if I collect both?

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Ski4130 · 28/04/2025 07:12

Thunderpants88 · 27/04/2025 15:32

Question is more how will they know I collected both scripts?

Prescriptions are sent electronically, and leave a trail - we can check where/when it was collected from very easily.

Everything has an electronic trail for compliance and safeguarding. If you feel you need more, then speak to a clinician and ask them if you can pick up the additional dosage, but the way you’re wording your question ‘how will they know?’ makes me feel like you know you shouldn’t be collecting both scripts.

Calamitousness · 28/04/2025 06:24

I am surprised an OOH prescribed you diazepam. It’s not recommended anymore for anxiety and rarely prescribed due to its addictive nature and how it is abused.
Do not take the 2nd script. That is clearly a drug seeking behaviour. Yes it will be noted as everything is electronically recorded. Go to your GP and be assessed and have a controlled medication plan.

JustMyView13 · 28/04/2025 03:56

Yes, they will know. The second pharmacist may not be able to give it to you. If they do, it’ll be fully traceable in the same way they can catch people who claim free prescriptions, when they’re not entitled. Ultimately it’s a controlled drug.
I don’t know what the consequences will be for you though, if any.

RedHelenB · 28/04/2025 03:13

You sound addicted OP. If you collect both it confirms this. The Dr's will know.

Jumpingthruhoops · 28/04/2025 02:22

wordywitch · 27/04/2025 16:03

Just a word of warning about diazepam and how incredibly addictive it is. A friend of mine took it for a couple of months (not even every day, only as needed) while adjusting to a new anxiety med and ended up very quickly addicted, to the point that when she tried to come off of it very quickly (as advised by her GP) her mental health tanked and she had to be admitted to a psychiatric unit. She had to enter a drug treatment program and taper off incredibly slowly, it took 18 months and was absolute hell.

I’m not trying to scare you and I know that for a few days Valium can be very helpful for acute short term anxiety, but doctors often don’t give all the facts on how dangerous it can be to take it for longer than very very short periods. I had no idea it was that addictive nor did my friend otherwise she wouldn't have touched it. So I would recommend against picking up and taking more than the prescribed amount.

In my experience, doctors give too many facts about how addictive benzos in general are, to the point of scaremongering.
I took Lorazepam for five months a few years back and, honestly, it saved my life. Never upped my dose, never became addicted and tapered off over three month without any withdrawals whatsoever. I would take it again in a heartbeat!

Vallmo47 · 27/04/2025 20:03

All the collected prescriptions are claimed and the paid ones are sent off monthly to the NHS for checking. There will be record of this prescription existing and having been dispensed twice. Ask yourself why you’d want to try to cheat the system OP - are you dependent on this medication?
The NHS is especially vigilant in regards to controlled drugs, and Valium/Diazepam counts as one of them.

PlumFairies · 27/04/2025 20:03

Another possible scenario is that the prescription has been re-routed to the other pharmacy so there is technically only one prescription in existence. Again if the pharmacy issues this is error without realising it has been dispensed elsewhere they will not be paid for it and they will probably inform your surgery that you’ve received more than was issued.
As it’s a controlled drug this may also mean that the responsible pharmacist could get into a bit of bother.

BobbyBiscuits · 27/04/2025 19:54

Thunderpants88 · 27/04/2025 19:48

no I wasn’t going to take double the amount just have it for longer if I need it

That's what I meant. Have double the amount and use it for longer potentially. Unless it's a repeat you're not meant to have it more than that one box.

BobbyBiscuits · 27/04/2025 19:52

Serencwtch · 27/04/2025 19:31

I get diazepam on repeat prescription.

It's the lowest level of controlled drug & widely prescribed.

Ok but that isn't what happened here is it. If it's a repeat then you use the first lot then a month later get the next. Not two at the same time where one is a duplicate.

PlumFairies · 27/04/2025 19:50

Thunderpants88 · 27/04/2025 15:32

Question is more how will they know I collected both scripts?

The first pharmacy probably haven’t realised that the prescription has been cancelled and a new one issued elsewhere. When they try to “claim” the prescription at the end of the month they will more than likely realise they have dispensed a cancelled prescription and inform your surgery. They also won’t be paid for it.

Thunderpants88 · 27/04/2025 19:48

KeyToTheCity · 27/04/2025 17:50

I don't think OP is intending to take double the dosage? Just that once the first lot runs out she can continue on the second lot, rather than ring up and wait for it to be delivered/pick it up. Unless I've understood or misread it wrong.

no I wasn’t going to take double the amount just have it for longer if I need it

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Serencwtch · 27/04/2025 19:31

BobbyBiscuits · 27/04/2025 17:58

She was going to take twice the amount she was prescribed. Else why did she want the tablets twice. You don't get a valium script on repeat. It's super controlled. There was no 'second lot'. It was an error.

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I get diazepam on repeat prescription.

It's the lowest level of controlled drug & widely prescribed.

KeyToTheCity · 27/04/2025 19:27

BobbyBiscuits · 27/04/2025 17:58

She was going to take twice the amount she was prescribed. Else why did she want the tablets twice. You don't get a valium script on repeat. It's super controlled. There was no 'second lot'. It was an error.

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I've never taken it or know anything about it. So after 8 days, or a few days before after the OP has run out of batch 1, she couldn't request another batch of 8 if she felt she needed them?

Serencwtch · 27/04/2025 19:26

Electronic prescriptions are a code which the pharmacy has to remove from the NHS spine to dispense it. Once it's removed from the spine it can't be dispensed until the original pharmacy returns it. This is to stop duplicate prescriptions.

It depends if the doctor sent 2 separate prescriptions or whether it was the same one but returned to the spine.

If the prescription was returned to the spine they won't be able to give it to you. If it was a second prescription then they will. It would have been very poor practice of them to issue a second prescription but could well have happened as emergency doctors are under a lot of pressure.

Your GP will be able to access the prescriptions and will obviously know if you have been given double the quantity of a controlled drug. It may well be recorded that you seek to obtain additional controlled drugs & in a similar situation in the future the out of hours emergency doctor would have to refuse to prescribe it to you & you would have to wait until your own doctor could see you.

AudiobookListener · 27/04/2025 18:10

You would be in possession of a controlled drug without a valid prescription. That might be an offence and as others have pointed out, the proof would be right there on the computers. Also, you will lose all credibility with your GP., if they find out.

Whowhatwhere21 · 27/04/2025 18:01

If it's sent electronically they will not be able to dispense it. Each script issued has a barcode. The barcodes for the script will be exactly the same, so if you go and try to collect it you will be making yourself look like an addict as they will already know that script has been redeemed and dispensed by another pharmacy the moment they try to click on it to print it. You also risk them contacting your GP surgery to report you trying to collect a script that you've already collected elsewhere.

BobbyBiscuits · 27/04/2025 17:58

KeyToTheCity · 27/04/2025 17:50

I don't think OP is intending to take double the dosage? Just that once the first lot runs out she can continue on the second lot, rather than ring up and wait for it to be delivered/pick it up. Unless I've understood or misread it wrong.

She was going to take twice the amount she was prescribed. Else why did she want the tablets twice. You don't get a valium script on repeat. It's super controlled. There was no 'second lot'. It was an error.

KeyToTheCity · 27/04/2025 17:50

BobbyBiscuits · 27/04/2025 16:11

Well you'll get double the amount. Because of what it is I'd probably try it. Lol. Plead ignorance if husband picked the last one.
But you're only really meant to have one. And it shouldn't be easy to get it twice. They're really addictive as you know.

I don't think OP is intending to take double the dosage? Just that once the first lot runs out she can continue on the second lot, rather than ring up and wait for it to be delivered/pick it up. Unless I've understood or misread it wrong.

HeatedBlanketAllYear · 27/04/2025 17:26

It’s not faxed it e-prescribing so sent electronically and accessed via your medical record using your NHS number.
I had a prescription sent to my usual pharmacy and they didn’t have the medication in stock. So I went to another, they accessed via my NHS number and dispensed to me. The dispensing is recorded. So if I’d gone back to the original one they would have known I’d already collected the prescription elsewhere.

BobbyBiscuits · 27/04/2025 16:11

Well you'll get double the amount. Because of what it is I'd probably try it. Lol. Plead ignorance if husband picked the last one.
But you're only really meant to have one. And it shouldn't be easy to get it twice. They're really addictive as you know.

Bababear987 · 27/04/2025 16:08

You would be able to pick it up without a problem however it will eventually be realised you requested it twice and may look like that was done fraudulently. Nothing would happen legally but it may mean they are extremely weary about giving you this medication again and may consider this drug seeking or medication abuse.

wordywitch · 27/04/2025 16:03

Just a word of warning about diazepam and how incredibly addictive it is. A friend of mine took it for a couple of months (not even every day, only as needed) while adjusting to a new anxiety med and ended up very quickly addicted, to the point that when she tried to come off of it very quickly (as advised by her GP) her mental health tanked and she had to be admitted to a psychiatric unit. She had to enter a drug treatment program and taper off incredibly slowly, it took 18 months and was absolute hell.

I’m not trying to scare you and I know that for a few days Valium can be very helpful for acute short term anxiety, but doctors often don’t give all the facts on how dangerous it can be to take it for longer than very very short periods. I had no idea it was that addictive nor did my friend otherwise she wouldn't have touched it. So I would recommend against picking up and taking more than the prescribed amount.

Cabinqueen · 27/04/2025 15:51

Well, to answer the question, it's because this information is all held on an electronic database showing when prescriptions are prepared and collected.

SingWithMeJustForToday · 27/04/2025 15:44

Thunderpants88 · 27/04/2025 15:32

Question is more how will they know I collected both scripts?

It’s all tracked.They can see if and when you collect prescriptions.

The honest answer is that you are unlikely to be eligible to be prescribed any more Valium, and it may impact on a doctors happiness to prescribe you other addictive drugs, too.

ShortyShorts · 27/04/2025 15:40

Thunderpants88 · 27/04/2025 15:32

Question is more how will they know I collected both scripts?

I expect it'll be right there on the computer screen?