To discuss the societal impacts of older parents?

In fairness to the OP, and although I think these types of threads are unhelpful for the reasons I already posted, I can see how only having one grandparent alive for her children could be a key factor for her. All of our children’s grandparents are alive and in very good health. Perhaps I would think about the issue differently if my parents had passed away. I still think the OP is BU, but maybe that explains why this is something she wants to chat about on mumsnet.

It’s been well known that prolonged exposures to oestrogen can increase risk of breast cancer. Early menarche,
late menopause, starting a family later in life, fewer pregnancies etc. this isn’t new research.

They weren’t very inspiring, a few words at most.

They weren't meant to be inspiring, they were just challenging your posts.

I ask again when were you born that 25 was the average age of a FTM?

So what? My grandmother had her last child (last of 10) aged 52, this was common before reliable contraception.

My DM had me and my sibling in her early 20s. All my grandparents had passed by the time I was 12 and I never met my great grandparents. I had no help from anyone when my dcs were born. My DPs emigrated when I was 20 and my in-laws live too far away.

To compare I had my dcs in my 40s. They have all 4 grandparents alive at older than I was when mine had all gone, my eldest met a great grandparent. I have no plans to emigrate when they are 20 and will help them as much as possible.

It is possible that I will be decrepit when they have young families but I don't expect or want them to care for me. I have funds for care. What they have had from me is my time and my love and they will always have that. As a child of young parents who were too busy wanting to live their lives and regarded their dcs as a bit of an inconvenience I think there are upsides to having older parents who have lived a bit first and are happy to enjoy parenthood rather than resent it
*disclaimer: not everyone's experience is the same.

With respect, I don't think you can have read the myriad of comments from children of older parents on here on the numerous threads to have gone before.

There really ate loads, for the hood and bad.

I'm sorry your experience was negative.

I also read somewhere that female cancers (breast, womb etc) are rising due to the increase in oestrogen in women who haven’t experienced a pregnancy by 40, or have less pregnancies.

Can you link to this evidence?

Do you start these threads often then?

I fully expected accusations of disingenuity as this is a sensitive topic, and they always attract such accusations

Interesting but completely predictable that you replied to that post but ignored all my others...

I didn't have any great grandparents when I was born in the 80s as the eldest child in my family.
I think as people live longer and especially with longer healthy lives, some of the differences are mitigated. My kids have one great grandparent and 4 grandparents and they were born when I was 32 and 36. My own parents are in way better health than my grandparents, who seemed so much more elderly in their mid sixties than my mum and dad do.

Millions is hyperbolic, but among my peers the vast majority waited to own their own house and be at a senior level in their career.

I'm not saying everyone waited to have a 1.5M house, we're 42 and had made partner in a magic circle firm, but they were in their first owned home and were established in their professions.

For the most part they were 34-37 having their first

I think you should tread very carefully on that topic.

If I’d married and procreated with the men I met in my twenties while I was travelling the world I can guarantee the union would not have lasted. Married at 33. Had DS at 34. One and done and very happy. Both DH and I are very active now late 40s with hobbies from long distance running to weight lifting and jiu jitsu. Hopefully we’ll stay healthy as long as possible but when the shit hits the fan I’ll be off to Switzerland. I do not want to be a burden on anyone.
DS will inherit well.

My grandad became a dad in his forties to six children he lived to 80+. My mum his daughter says she doesn’t agree with older parents. But she saw her mum constantly looking after children and then looking after him due to ill health when she wasn’t old herself, but a large age gap in their relationship.

But it doesn’t really explain the motive of a thread which seems to pit one category of parent against another. I find it weird, almost like a competition needs to be started about the ‘right’ type of parent, but it’s not unusual to see on here.

Agree, the OP is being somewhat disingenuous.

@Kindersurprising I think I am contributing

I'm surprised that the consensus seems to be older parents meaning less help with childcare. Both mine and my DH's parents had us in their early twenties. This means that despite us waiting until our 30's to have children, they all still work full time. I've always been a bit jealous of friends with older parents because they are retired and have much more spare time to dedicate to their grandchildren.

These people do not exist. No one is waiting until their 40s to start a family because they were savings millions first. No one.

No they are trying to get housing security first which can take years.