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Calica1 · 26/04/2025 19:18

Current situation is I have a 13 month old little boy who I get to spend a lot of time with as I'm lucky to only have to work 2 nights a week in a supermarket for us to get by.

My partner is really keen for me to go back to full time work in order for us to have more money and improve our lives (bigger house and nice holidays)

Our son is going to nursery 2 part days a week just to get some socialisation but honestly I think he hates it and I'm keen to pull him out which is the opposite of what getting a full time job would entail as he would have to go in full time.

In order to go back to work I'd have to retrain for something else as I can't go back to retail management as the hours don't work with 2 parents in retail management and personally I just think my little boy is just too little to be made to go be with strangers all day and barely see his parents.

I appreciate the fact my partner wants to improve our lives and also that he doesn't like our current arrangement of never seeing each other as I work the 2 nights he doesn't but I feel like our son is the priority. I'll also add I'm keen to have a second baby soon which then means putting 2 young kids in nursery just to earn more money.

So am I being unreasonable to say I just want to focus on my kids until they are a lot older and it's okay if we are getting by on my part time wage?

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EveningSpread · 26/04/2025 20:36

It doesn’t matter what other people think, but you and your DH have to come up with an agreement and compromise. Does he want another child? If you’re expected to go back to work, he’ll have to do half the childcare and housework - would he?

Upsetbetty · 26/04/2025 20:35

Calica1 · 26/04/2025 20:29

Thank you for your response. But I will point out of you read my original post I do work 2 nights a week so it isn't a case of not wanting to work at all. But it is a case of not wanting to work more than that and lose time with my precious boy and be able to be there for him all the time I'm able to.

Are holidays more important than being with a parent or at least on of your parent being able to do school drop off or see plays and performances and take to clubs etc (those examples are obviously when he's a bit older at school) I feel like having 1 parent constantly there to be able to do all those things is more important than holidays and a nicer house.

But I really appreciate your opinion.

@Calica1 i work full time 39 hours a week, I’m separated, I have my dc 50:50. I can drop my dc to school, bring them to clubs, see performances. I’m there for them when they need me, regardless of whether they are with me or not. I am available and they come first and they know that. It’s possible to do both. Just because parents work doesn’t mean they are not a constant or an available.

Calica1 · 26/04/2025 20:34

Overthebow · 26/04/2025 20:25

You say you get by on your wages, bwhatbdoes that mean? Do you have enough in savings and able to put more in savings, contribute a decent % to your pensions, own a house, put money in for you DCs savings each month, have enough for house maintenance and emergencies, have enough for a cheap holiday, some days out and activities for your DC? If yes then I would try to stay with what you’re doing, if no then you probably do need to work more. Could 4 days a week be a compromise?

We have around 400 left over a month but our house is in need of some serious work (think no ceilings downstairs and not a completed kitchen kind of level work) so a real fixer upper. And we have a significant amount of debt we are slowly trying to clear. We do put £50 a month into DS isa but no personal savings. My partners pension gets 4% put in by him and 4% by his work and mine is the same but obviously for me that's only around 35 a month as I earn so little.

We definitely aren't sitting with spare cash to be able to do lots of things or holidays (we are lucky enough my mum is paying for us to go on holiday with her this year)

My partner isn't an insanely high earner (under 50k)

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ExcitingRicotta · 26/04/2025 20:31

Calica1 · 26/04/2025 20:11

We rushed having our baby (I've wanted kids for years) but we hadn't been together long and the discussion about being a stay at home mum didn't come up until I was pregnant. We knew I couldn't return to my current role (store manager at coop) and I mentioned then that I wasn't keen on returning to work at all but finances at the end of my maternity meant I had to agree to work 2 nights a week at tesco to be able to afford the bills.

I can understand wanting more out of life and he does work hard but I guess my thought process is what we want doesn't matter its about what's best for our kids.

It doesn't help my family have very different opinions on the matter. My dad tells me I'm a bad person if I go back to my career as I've wanted kids forever and shouldn't then work full time as I should be a parent and my son will be affected by me working full time. Whereas my mum thinks me having financial independence incase something goes wrong with the relationship and also thinks it's good for kids to see their parents work.

So I get a lot of conflicting opinions and I just want whats best for my boy.

What an awful thing for your father to have said to you! Has he not met any of the millions of delightful children raised by working parents?

Your son would be very unlikely to enjoy nursery when you only send him two half days a week. You mentioned him being looked after by ‘strangers’. Let him go for longer so that they’re not strangers anymore and soon he will have friends and a whole other situation to thrive in.

Calica1 · 26/04/2025 20:29

mumofboys8787 · 26/04/2025 20:23

I’m gonna be honest here, and it appears I’m in the minority. But I actually think you’re taking the pss here a bit. You want your partner to work full time - but you don’t want to work at all*. And you want to have another child, and still not work. Despite the fact your partner is voicing that he thinks it’s a lot of pressure solely on him to maintain your household on one salary, and would like some help so you can enjoy a better quality of life eg holidays.

Before anyone comes for me, I am a SAHM with 3 young children, who have all been to nursery despite being a SAHM. So in theory I can absolutely appreciate where you’re coming from, but the huge difference is that my husband is a very high earner, and we are both in agreement that our life runs significantly better with me at home and him at work. If we ever found ourselves in a situation where we couldn’t take our children on holiday, I would go back to work.

I also fundamentally disagree with your comment about not wanting “someone else” to raise your children. That’s just an excuse people use when they don’t want to work. Nursery has huge benefits, which you’ve already hinted at in your posts, and arguably your children would benefit more from being able to experience going on holiday and the other things an extra income would afford them, vs being at home with you alone every single day. All I’m getting from your posts is that you can’t be arsed working and you’re happy with everyone else (kids, partner) missing out on other things (spare money, holidays) just so you can stay home.

Thank you for your response. But I will point out of you read my original post I do work 2 nights a week so it isn't a case of not wanting to work at all. But it is a case of not wanting to work more than that and lose time with my precious boy and be able to be there for him all the time I'm able to.

Are holidays more important than being with a parent or at least on of your parent being able to do school drop off or see plays and performances and take to clubs etc (those examples are obviously when he's a bit older at school) I feel like having 1 parent constantly there to be able to do all those things is more important than holidays and a nicer house.

But I really appreciate your opinion.

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Overthebow · 26/04/2025 20:25

You say you get by on your wages, bwhatbdoes that mean? Do you have enough in savings and able to put more in savings, contribute a decent % to your pensions, own a house, put money in for you DCs savings each month, have enough for house maintenance and emergencies, have enough for a cheap holiday, some days out and activities for your DC? If yes then I would try to stay with what you’re doing, if no then you probably do need to work more. Could 4 days a week be a compromise?

mumofboys8787 · 26/04/2025 20:23

I’m gonna be honest here, and it appears I’m in the minority. But I actually think you’re taking the pss here a bit. You want your partner to work full time - but you don’t want to work at all*. And you want to have another child, and still not work. Despite the fact your partner is voicing that he thinks it’s a lot of pressure solely on him to maintain your household on one salary, and would like some help so you can enjoy a better quality of life eg holidays.

Before anyone comes for me, I am a SAHM with 3 young children, who have all been to nursery despite being a SAHM. So in theory I can absolutely appreciate where you’re coming from, but the huge difference is that my husband is a very high earner, and we are both in agreement that our life runs significantly better with me at home and him at work. If we ever found ourselves in a situation where we couldn’t take our children on holiday, I would go back to work.

I also fundamentally disagree with your comment about not wanting “someone else” to raise your children. That’s just an excuse people use when they don’t want to work. Nursery has huge benefits, which you’ve already hinted at in your posts, and arguably your children would benefit more from being able to experience going on holiday and the other things an extra income would afford them, vs being at home with you alone every single day. All I’m getting from your posts is that you can’t be arsed working and you’re happy with everyone else (kids, partner) missing out on other things (spare money, holidays) just so you can stay home.

Calica1 · 26/04/2025 20:20

JLou08 · 26/04/2025 20:16

If your DH wants to move up in his career does that mean that he is expecting you to work full time but be the one who has to do drop offs/pick ups/sick days/school holidays and inset days?
If I was you I'd continue with part time. The 30 hours free childcare isn't actually 30 hours and some places have top up fees. Unless there are parent leave policies at work you will need to consider there may be periods of no pay if DC is ill, travel costs, extra money from not having as much time to shop around and be more efficiently

You will never get this time back with your DC and as you can afford to work part time and want to work part time, do it.

He is very lucky that he gets quite a lot of annual leave and we can also take emergency leave days etc for illness and currently he works nights so could do drop off and pick ups and if he moved to days he would likely be able to do one or the other due to retail hours. He also does all the shopping as he also works retail so generally gets it after work or we do an online shop. I can't fault him he's really helpful and doesn't expect me to do everything even with me being at home most of the time.

We are very lucky with our nursery we have no top up fees (obviously we would have to pay for any hours over the free hours) but I agree with you about not getting the time back with them. Which personally i think is more important than money!

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Jessica5678 · 26/04/2025 20:20

Calica1 · 26/04/2025 20:11

We rushed having our baby (I've wanted kids for years) but we hadn't been together long and the discussion about being a stay at home mum didn't come up until I was pregnant. We knew I couldn't return to my current role (store manager at coop) and I mentioned then that I wasn't keen on returning to work at all but finances at the end of my maternity meant I had to agree to work 2 nights a week at tesco to be able to afford the bills.

I can understand wanting more out of life and he does work hard but I guess my thought process is what we want doesn't matter its about what's best for our kids.

It doesn't help my family have very different opinions on the matter. My dad tells me I'm a bad person if I go back to my career as I've wanted kids forever and shouldn't then work full time as I should be a parent and my son will be affected by me working full time. Whereas my mum thinks me having financial independence incase something goes wrong with the relationship and also thinks it's good for kids to see their parents work.

So I get a lot of conflicting opinions and I just want whats best for my boy.

I say this as a very happy SAHM - there can be more than one way that is “best for the kids”. Our family works well with me being home - but that was a joint decision, with no financial worries. I have no doubt that my kids would also have been perfectly fine in nursery (DC1’s SEN aside) or with a childminder - I might have been more stressed and DH and I would both have had more on our plates, but the kids would have been fine regardless. You’re being very emotive taking about strangers etc - they aren’t strangers, they’re nursery workers he sees multiple times a week!

What would’ve impacted my kids far more than childcare arrangements or holidays or a nice house would be DH and I not being on the same page, arguing or resenting each other.

I’d also say there’s a middle ground between working full time and working two nights a week.

Upsetbetty · 26/04/2025 20:19

And also what you want DOES matter! Happy parents=happy children. I know our kids come first but there’s a balance to be had here!

Upsetbetty · 26/04/2025 20:17

Calica1 · 26/04/2025 20:11

We rushed having our baby (I've wanted kids for years) but we hadn't been together long and the discussion about being a stay at home mum didn't come up until I was pregnant. We knew I couldn't return to my current role (store manager at coop) and I mentioned then that I wasn't keen on returning to work at all but finances at the end of my maternity meant I had to agree to work 2 nights a week at tesco to be able to afford the bills.

I can understand wanting more out of life and he does work hard but I guess my thought process is what we want doesn't matter its about what's best for our kids.

It doesn't help my family have very different opinions on the matter. My dad tells me I'm a bad person if I go back to my career as I've wanted kids forever and shouldn't then work full time as I should be a parent and my son will be affected by me working full time. Whereas my mum thinks me having financial independence incase something goes wrong with the relationship and also thinks it's good for kids to see their parents work.

So I get a lot of conflicting opinions and I just want whats best for my boy.

Listen to you mum! She’s right! Your dad is talking bullshit…and that’s easy for him to say I imagine.

JLou08 · 26/04/2025 20:16

If your DH wants to move up in his career does that mean that he is expecting you to work full time but be the one who has to do drop offs/pick ups/sick days/school holidays and inset days?
If I was you I'd continue with part time. The 30 hours free childcare isn't actually 30 hours and some places have top up fees. Unless there are parent leave policies at work you will need to consider there may be periods of no pay if DC is ill, travel costs, extra money from not having as much time to shop around and be more efficiently

You will never get this time back with your DC and as you can afford to work part time and want to work part time, do it.

Calica1 · 26/04/2025 20:13

Springadorable · 26/04/2025 20:11

I guess another way to do it would be to have another child asap, and you agree that you are very part time on a temporary basis until the youngest is 2.5 for instance. That way there is an end date when you'll be really able to ramp up your earning, and you get time with the kids when they are little? I think it's much harder if you have a bigger gap between them (although obviously sometimes it's unavoidable) as it really drags the young years out when you want to be with them.

This is a very valid response and something I think I will definitely put out there as an option. I'm really keen for another anyway so may possibly work out as a good incentive for DP.

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Calica1 · 26/04/2025 20:11

Upsetbetty · 26/04/2025 20:05

@Calica1 I think what your dh is trying to verbalise is that he wants more out of life, he wants to feel like he gets something out of working as hard as he does and be able to take a nice holiday etc, he can’t do it alone so he needs you to earn more. Was it always the plan for you to be a sahm?

We rushed having our baby (I've wanted kids for years) but we hadn't been together long and the discussion about being a stay at home mum didn't come up until I was pregnant. We knew I couldn't return to my current role (store manager at coop) and I mentioned then that I wasn't keen on returning to work at all but finances at the end of my maternity meant I had to agree to work 2 nights a week at tesco to be able to afford the bills.

I can understand wanting more out of life and he does work hard but I guess my thought process is what we want doesn't matter its about what's best for our kids.

It doesn't help my family have very different opinions on the matter. My dad tells me I'm a bad person if I go back to my career as I've wanted kids forever and shouldn't then work full time as I should be a parent and my son will be affected by me working full time. Whereas my mum thinks me having financial independence incase something goes wrong with the relationship and also thinks it's good for kids to see their parents work.

So I get a lot of conflicting opinions and I just want whats best for my boy.

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Springadorable · 26/04/2025 20:11

I guess another way to do it would be to have another child asap, and you agree that you are very part time on a temporary basis until the youngest is 2.5 for instance. That way there is an end date when you'll be really able to ramp up your earning, and you get time with the kids when they are little? I think it's much harder if you have a bigger gap between them (although obviously sometimes it's unavoidable) as it really drags the young years out when you want to be with them.

Upsetbetty · 26/04/2025 20:05

@Calica1 I think what your dh is trying to verbalise is that he wants more out of life, he wants to feel like he gets something out of working as hard as he does and be able to take a nice holiday etc, he can’t do it alone so he needs you to earn more. Was it always the plan for you to be a sahm?

Calica1 · 26/04/2025 20:05

MidnightPatrol · 26/04/2025 19:48

Lots of people work full time with young children, and their children are fine.

If you are struggling as a household for money, then working more is probably a good option, once the free hours kick in.

It is a lot of pressure on your DH otherwise.

Your child being unsettled at nursery is actually probably because they aren’t there enough to get used to it.

We aren't struggling we just aren't really in the position to improve our lives if that makes sense.

I do appreciate it's a lot of pressure for my partner. I suppose we just have different priorities and need to find some common ground.

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Calica1 · 26/04/2025 20:01

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🤣🤣 that's my partners idea of hell and also wouldn't then actually help with the improving of finances as we would be about in the same position finance wise.

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Calica1 · 26/04/2025 20:00

Espresso25 · 26/04/2025 19:40

Whose life is money going to improve? Is he going to step up and do some more parenting or is he just hoping to carry on exactly as he is now?

I can't fault him as he's great. He does a lot of the cooking (as he prefers his cooking to mine) and he does nursery drop off on the days I'm working overnight etc. So he isn't like expecting to have everything done in the house etc and all the drop off etc done by me as well as me working full time. He's happy to pull his weight so that isn't a concern for me.

His opinion is money will improve all of our lives. Being able to move to a nicer area for schools and holidays and generally being able to not have to worry about money I guess is his goal as well as planning for retirement.

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Calica1 · 26/04/2025 19:55

MidnightPatrol · 26/04/2025 19:49

Attending a nursery doesn’t mean ‘your child is raised by other people’.

Perhaps 'raised' isn't the right way to phrase it. But personally if my child was spending 45 hours a week at nursery that's basically the equivalent of the amount of time I would then potentially get with my child after their sleep which is at the very least having someone else partially raising my child in my opinion as they are a significant part in their daily life.

But I completely appreciate that the majority of people have no choice In needing full time childcare and are greatful to be able to get the time they do with their children. I didn't mean to offend anyone using full time childcare. Sorry

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RoseofRoses · 26/04/2025 19:51

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Calica1 · 26/04/2025 19:48

Thank you. Yeah we know it's something like 22 hours for all year around plus the extra.

I get his point that we would he better off with me earning a full time wage but I want to be with my kids and I don't really want them raised by other people.

Attending a nursery doesn’t mean ‘your child is raised by other people’.

MidnightPatrol · 26/04/2025 19:48

Lots of people work full time with young children, and their children are fine.

If you are struggling as a household for money, then working more is probably a good option, once the free hours kick in.

It is a lot of pressure on your DH otherwise.

Your child being unsettled at nursery is actually probably because they aren’t there enough to get used to it.

Calica1 · 26/04/2025 19:48

Pikablue · 26/04/2025 19:46

The 30 hours is term time only remember so if you need year round it'll be less than 30 a week, plus there'll be top ups to pay. You know this I'm sure, but I'd make sure he does.

Thank you. Yeah we know it's something like 22 hours for all year around plus the extra.

I get his point that we would he better off with me earning a full time wage but I want to be with my kids and I don't really want them raised by other people.

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Pikablue · 26/04/2025 19:46

The 30 hours is term time only remember so if you need year round it'll be less than 30 a week, plus there'll be top ups to pay. You know this I'm sure, but I'd make sure he does.

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