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citygirl1961 · 26/04/2025 18:12

I know a lot of people are looking forward to retirement but I dread it.

After thirty five years of working in the Civil Service I am due to retire in three years time which I know will pass quickly.

I work full time, always have done. I am divorced and live on my own, bills and rent to pay, don't own my own home.

I know I will get a good pension but I still worry about finances as I know I won't get housing benefit with getting a good work pension.

Not only do I worry about finances and not being able to afford to do things, I worry about being bored. I suffer from depression and anxiety and being at work keeps me busy and helps to take my mind off things.

People I know you've retired say they don't know how they found time to go to work and say they have more money than they had before, but then you've got more time on your hands to spend it. I have plenty of friends and like meeting up for lunch and coffees. I'd go mad if I couldn't do that.

Does anyone else feel this way? I just can't embrace the thought of it at all.

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AncientAndModern1 · 26/04/2025 19:52

citygirl1961 · 26/04/2025 19:38

Yes my neighbour just lives on the state pension but she gets most of her rent paid, she only has to pay about £14 per week.

Do you seriously think she’s better off than you? The state pension next year is less than £12k a year.

dottiedodah · 26/04/2025 19:49

Can u get pension credit if you rent maybe.a single person discount on rates.maybe look into this at CAB or similar. Lots of volunteering, maybe NT or similar, I.was dreading DH retirement. However I have got cancer and chemo. Thought I w be bored ! DH has attended all my appointments ,and we go to a coffee morning with lots of nice people all.in the same boat. Our aunt lost her husband, goes on lots of cruises,days out Nt and hols alone 😔

Whatwouldnanado · 26/04/2025 19:49

Income tax is tax on income. Nothing different about how your pension is treated. Once you are state pension age you won’t have to pay national insurance.
It sounds as though you would benefit from phasing into retirement, perhaps by working three days a week. Then look to setting up a regular routine for the other days daytime and evening. Are you worried about not being useful, being lonely? Look for volunteer opportunities perhaps doing craft or hearing reading inaschool/nursery/library. Make plans, it css as n be an exciting time of life.

citygirl1961 · 26/04/2025 19:44

Hollyaddy · 26/04/2025 19:09

If you gave few friends and no hobbies or ties to your area why not move somewhere cheaper. Use your lump sum to buy a flat or house. I'm Also CS. You can take a higher lump sum in lieu of reduced monthly income.

You must have known you would have ended up in this position though. If you've been In Cs for 35 years not buying a property wasn't the wisest move. I would either carry on Working or completely move somewhere much cheaper.

I have had two broken marriages. Me and my second husband did buy a house once but he left me in the lurch with nothing, no furniture, a huge loss on the house. I have had no option but to rent. Where I live now, the heating is cheaper as the flat is well insulated. If I moved to somewhere with a cheaper rent I would be paying more in general bills. Plus I can't guarantee that the area wouldn't be as nice if I moved, you don't get a lot of choice with the Council and private renting is far more expensive and not secure.

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citygirl1961 · 26/04/2025 19:38

AncientAndModern1 · 26/04/2025 19:33

You literally do not have a problem. You don’t have to retire but can easily afford to. It’s the dream! If you want to work then work. If you want to retire, retire. If you want to work part time, work part time. You have sufficient money and no responsibilities. You do know how many women have nothing but the state pension?

Yes my neighbour just lives on the state pension but she gets most of her rent paid, she only has to pay about £14 per week.

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Pleasealexa · 26/04/2025 19:37

@citygirl1961 everyone who earns over the threshold will pay more tax but it's still worth working as you will end up with more money each month.

Plug the numbers into a salary calculator, as mentioned earlier you won't pay NI so that's a pay rise.

I assume your pension is final salary which means if you lower your income your pension goes down..I get why you wouldn't want to do that however having a pension & salary is great,! High taxation is only because you will have so much more income. You can use that to build up your savings.

Btw, understand the anxiety of not working as it's affects many people who worry about, how much is enough money? Use the next year to note exactly what you spend and that will give you reassurance.

TheHerboriste · 26/04/2025 19:34

Why not have a one time consultation with a fiduciary financial advisor? It might set your mind at ease.

AncientAndModern1 · 26/04/2025 19:33

You literally do not have a problem. You don’t have to retire but can easily afford to. It’s the dream! If you want to work then work. If you want to retire, retire. If you want to work part time, work part time. You have sufficient money and no responsibilities. You do know how many women have nothing but the state pension?

thepariscrimefiles · 26/04/2025 19:31

You can defer taking your State Pension and your work pension if you stay in work post retirement age. Once you reach retirement age, you don't pay National Insurance so you will actually take home more than you do now.

Quite a few women I worked with worked past retirement age when they could retire at 60 and they all said they'd never had as much money due to not paying NI and having free travel.

Cadenza12 · 26/04/2025 19:31

Which is why you need to plan. You've got some interesting hobbies which you could expand. You could join the U3A, or maybe ramblers near you. You could volunteer at the food bank or other charity. You tend to spend more when you first retire then spending tapers off. Look at your revised budget and plan accordingly. How about getting a dog? Or organising/reviewing some travel options Have a look at books that cover making the most of your retirement. Lifes short make the most of it. After 6 months you'll wish you retired earlier.

SwedishEdith · 26/04/2025 19:28

What pension scheme are you in? If you have a chunk in Classic, that does not increase beyond 60. Any hours worked to the value of that beyond 60 mean, essentially, you've been working for free.

viques · 26/04/2025 19:27

citygirl1961 · 26/04/2025 19:05

Work colleagues and the Union.

When you say the Union is this from a handout or have you been able to talk to a proper independent financial adviser through your Union. I recommend this because there may be things that you can do to defer your pension, or work part time which will give you security. I would not take advice from colleagues, unless they know what your financial position is to the penny then their advice is flawed, even if it is well meaning.

tryingtobesogood · 26/04/2025 19:21

citygirl1961 · 26/04/2025 19:05

Work colleagues and the Union.

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/tax-calculator/

work out your income (pension, pension + working part time) and the tax you will pay

Smokesandeats · 26/04/2025 19:20

CecilyP · 26/04/2025 18:42

But you don't have to take your state pension just because you reach state pension age. You can defer it and have a larger pension when you do retire. I would also recommend going part time if you can and ease yourself out gradually!

One of my family has done this. She works part time and deferred her pension and plans to keep going until (at least) 70.

milveycrohn · 26/04/2025 19:15

I am retired.
I am not sure if you are more worried about the lower income or what you will be doing with your time.
Re income. First you will not need to worry about 'work clothes' or fares to work, so that saves some expenses. Then you will have more time to plan meals to make them more energy efficient (batch cooking etc).
If it's the time, then the usual advice is to join local groups. Set yourself some personal goals. Take up a sport to keep yourself active for as long as possible, etc

minnienono · 26/04/2025 19:14

Don’t retire then, every year you work on your pension gets better

HelenWheels · 26/04/2025 19:13

there are retirement seminars op
dont dread it
look at it as a new chapter
opportunities

HelenWheels · 26/04/2025 19:12

surely you can defer your pension?

JBrumours · 26/04/2025 19:12

citygirl1961 · 26/04/2025 19:05

Work colleagues and the Union.

Your union explicitly told you that

If I take partial retirement I will still earn the same money now but when I retire fully I will end up with less after taking part of my pension.
If I stay on in the same job after retirement age (which is 67, I will be 64 in November) I will be taxed heavily on my pension which is already happening to someone at my work who is working beyond her retirement age,.?

Cinnamonrollsforbreakfast · 26/04/2025 19:10

Retirement is a massive change and it’s great that you recognise that and are thinking about it in advance. I think a lot of people get a shock when they stop working.

Any big change can feel incredibly unsettling and if you have been used to the anchor and security of work, it might be daunting to imagine life without it. The uncertainty of it all. The idea of getting older can also be hard to get used to all by itself.

You have time now to dream and reflect and then to plan. Could you write down all the advantages you have and all your worries. Sometimes that can help you pin down what the concerns really are - when they are spinning round your head, they can spiral.

Then think about what you want the next phase of life to look like. Brainstorm - no idea is a bad one. Then, once you have that picture of your future, you can look at practical steps to achieve it. Starting with the practical steps as others have said is no good if you don’t have clarity and direction.

It’s hard to do that by yourself so you could get a few sessions of counselling or even a book that has exercises to help you think about what you want out of life and retirement. It IS a big change and it’s so natural to feel apprehensive. Best of luck and I hope it’s a beautiful time in your life.

SwedishEdith · 26/04/2025 19:09

Put your projected income into a take home pay calculator to find out how much tax you'll pay rather than listening to hearsay from people who are not you.

Hollyaddy · 26/04/2025 19:09

If you gave few friends and no hobbies or ties to your area why not move somewhere cheaper. Use your lump sum to buy a flat or house. I'm Also CS. You can take a higher lump sum in lieu of reduced monthly income.

You must have known you would have ended up in this position though. If you've been In Cs for 35 years not buying a property wasn't the wisest move. I would either carry on Working or completely move somewhere much cheaper.

Flytrap01 · 26/04/2025 19:08

got made redundant and ill admit i miss the role, i keep tabs on the office and keep upto date on whats what, and yes its nice having the time available but that said i do miss the role

Soontobe60 · 26/04/2025 19:06

You haven’t mentioned your State pension.
One thing you can do now is to budget as if you are just living on your pensions. I did that a couple of years before I semi retired, and soon realised just how much money I as wasting!
Also, you really don’t have to stop working just because you claim your pension . Yes, if your pension + state pension + salary is greater than £50k, you’ll pay 40% tax on the amount above that, but you’d be on bcc a pretty good income! Plus you won’t be paying NI or pension contributions.

Mary46 · 26/04/2025 19:05

Think it would be very long days. Maybe if you keep busy thats different. We have a small dog so could bring him off. Winter be interesting! But I know people that love the freedom.

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