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Backpack strap cut with scissors

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IkeSmile · 26/04/2025 15:02

Hello everyone!
Back in December I needed your advice for actions against the school who covered bullying of a migrant child. Here we are again, with the same child and his backback strap being cut with a scissor. You can see in the picture that it's a clear cut.
Question?
React and complain in writing or ignore it?
I feel is the same child or a friend of his, acting like a thug? The only people wurh access to the cloakroom are teachers and the pupils.
Thank you!

Backpack strap cut with scissors
OP posts:
Viviennemary · 29/04/2025 07:54

IkeSmile · 29/04/2025 06:21

Good morning! I have left the backpack in a bag at the schools reception explaining what happened and saying that this needs to be looked at. I recieved a phone back at 4pm; the same receptionist told me that the headteacher said she "investigated and no one recognised he/she did it and the case is closed"...and I should probably stich my child's backpack. My son said that he was indeed in the headteachers office but briefly asked about it. Another child was slapped in the face on Friday by the one who was bullying my child in the past, but with no punishment, of course. The slapped child is a migrant aswell. So racism at its best!!!!
Thank you! I will ask if the children are gonna be spoken about the anti-bullying policy, ...again.

The school is not dealing with this bully. Complain to the LA and Governors re bullying. Or change schools

WhySoManySocks · 29/04/2025 07:53

Locallassie · 29/04/2025 07:51

I’m surprised very little has been made of your constant references to the issue being the ‘Irish’ staff and children. Change this for another group and it would not be acceptable. You appear to be hinting that the staff and pupils are victimising anyone who isn’t Irish which is frankly unbelievable.
Scissors will be available in every primary classroom. They won’t be removed in this situation.

I read this as the OP being in Ireland and making a point that minority children (immigrants ie non-Irish) are being systematically bullied.

Locallassie · 29/04/2025 07:51

I’m surprised very little has been made of your constant references to the issue being the ‘Irish’ staff and children. Change this for another group and it would not be acceptable. You appear to be hinting that the staff and pupils are victimising anyone who isn’t Irish which is frankly unbelievable.
Scissors will be available in every primary classroom. They won’t be removed in this situation.

Moonnstars · 29/04/2025 07:49

Where are you based? You seem to be coming across as blaming a specific group of people (Irish).
You say the school is good but why is there no teacher and constant supply?
I think I would be trying to move my child.

IkeSmile · 29/04/2025 07:46

mummytoonetryingfortwo · 26/04/2025 19:44

Complain to the school. Make the complaint in writing, detailing everything. The school then have to show that complaint and its resolution to Ofsted. Keep a copy of the letter as sent (dated the same date), and send it recorded delivery so they can’t deny receiving it.

I had no idea the school need to show it to the Ofstead. This is really helpful. ♥️
Thank you!
These the king of tips I was hopping to recieve and I'm happy you did it.

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Canterranter · 29/04/2025 07:38

mummytoonetryingfortwo · 26/04/2025 19:44

Complain to the school. Make the complaint in writing, detailing everything. The school then have to show that complaint and its resolution to Ofsted. Keep a copy of the letter as sent (dated the same date), and send it recorded delivery so they can’t deny receiving it.

No they do not have to show the complaint and resolution to Ofsted.

Op - follow the school complaints procedure, which is on their website. Be clear about what outcome you want though. I guess some assurances on how similar situations will be prevented in the future? Children shouldn't be carrying sharps around in school.
If you go to the Chair of Governors expect them to tell you they can't get involved at this stage and for them to advise you to follow the complaints procedure. Honestly, it would be wrong for a COG to randomly meet with parents who want to chat about complaints with them. They have to remain uninvolved and impartial and follow the published procedure.

coldscottishmum · 29/04/2025 07:35

Is there any sort of CCTV recording of that room where the bags are left? A child has been loose with a (I suspect) sharp pair of scissors, no adult around and has damaged property. Not only upsetting for your DS having his stuff targeted but that’s quite frightening a child can do that freely with no form of repercussions?

IkeSmile · 29/04/2025 07:32

Obeseandashamed · 29/04/2025 06:50

i am stunned by the number of YABU votes. Not the same but when I was at school somebody was stealing pens from pencil cases. They couldn’t figure out who it was and how for weeks but the cloakroom was made inaccessible to us until they did. The school need to accept there is a problems.

This is what a normal person would think. It's not ok to cut someone's backpack. It's not normal behavior.
Thank you!

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MolkosTeenageAngst · 29/04/2025 07:32

Can you look for another school for your son?

AgnesX · 29/04/2025 07:28

IkeSmile · 28/04/2025 20:09

The school did nothing today. The receptionist was told to tell me to stich my sons backpack, and that she's sorry but didn't find the child who did it.
Today that child cut my childs belongings, tomorrow he's gonna stab someone's child but hay, as long as he isn't seen...he's fine, because the school doesn't care.

The problem is how do they find out, short of seeing the culprit, someone admitted or telling on the culprit. I'd there CCTV?

What the school should be trying to do is promote an anti bullying policy.

Loubylie · 29/04/2025 07:27

Are you in Ireland?

IkeSmile · 29/04/2025 07:23

CheeseWisely · 29/04/2025 07:00

I’d be questioning why a class of that age have unlimited access to scissors sharp enough to cut through that strap, because average paper / arts and crafts scissors you might use in a classroom wouldn’t easily get through it. Unless of course the child is bringing a blade of some sort into school with him which is a whole other concern!

My 1st thought! Thank you!

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IkeSmile · 29/04/2025 07:22

EleanorReally · 29/04/2025 07:15

i would do this

I need to do this and make them aware of everything that's happening in the school.
Thank you!

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Hoardasurass · 29/04/2025 07:21

Energe · 29/04/2025 06:58

so you do know who did it? Tell the school
the name.

Nope she doesn't know she just suspects it was the child her son had problems with last year, however as there's no evidence that it was the child that she suspects only her assumption that it was him as noone saw what happened to the bag, and thinks that this 7 year old is going to stab her child because he's been allowed to get away with it as he's Irish and so are 90% of the school students and staff. Which is a rather racist assumption from the op

EleanorReally · 29/04/2025 07:15

StarlightLady · 29/04/2025 07:00

OP, an afterthought to add to my previous comments. Request a meeting with the Chair of Governors.

i would do this

IkeSmile · 29/04/2025 07:10

Namechangefordaughterevasion · 29/04/2025 06:32

You say 'no punishment' for the bully. How can you know that? The school won't discuss another child's discipline/behavioural issues with you anymore than they would reveal confidential data about your son to any other parent.

I think you are following the right path here though. Keep complaining politely and factually . Follow up with emails so there is a paper trail. Don't let your concerns be fobbed off.

I always ask my child, if anything happened in the school, good or bad.
For the 1st part of your answer, that child threw a chair into a child's chest and nothing was done...he recieved a "certificate for a well behaved child" at the end of the day, together with the child who cried for minutes because of the pain. Both children Irish (as the headteacher). He is always involved in violent acts, with the strong slap on Friday, and nothing is done, because he's Irish.
My concern is this is in fact the one who did it. He said in the past that he hates my son, and this is why he is bullying him.
So totally relevant if you know the full story.
But with an Irish headteacher treating children differently, you can never "win"...and the ones who lose the most are the children!
We can change the school, we can never change her ignorance though!

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Superhansrantowindsor · 29/04/2025 07:09

You need to put complaint in writing. I also suggest you request a copy of the schools anti bullying policy and official complaints policy. Your poor dc having this done to him in year 3.

Pigsears · 29/04/2025 07:06

. Some schools are crap with bullies. I had this with my son.

Ultimately, if you feel the school is not supportive (and the trust has broken down between parent and school), then the best thing for your child might be to leave the school. Give yourself a timeline. Prepare by looking for an another school.

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 29/04/2025 07:05

To be honest once you lose faith in a school's ability to deal with systematic bullying you would do better to find a different school. I understand that there might be reasons why you like the school (possibly it it Catholic given that you have noticed the number of Irish children). I would though find a different school even if it doesn't fit your religious preferences. Put his name down for any which you think you could reasonably commute to. We had to do that with one of ours because although eventually they made some of the right noises when we involved the governors there was too little action to safeguard our children. They were much happier in a different school.

CloverPyramid · 29/04/2025 07:05

IkeSmile · 29/04/2025 06:30

Hello! They don't do much if a child is bullied. With this happening in a school, you'd expect the scissors to be used by a pupil in year 3, only for arts and crafts, not to distroy children's property. Next time could be your child stabbed in the neck!
This is what I'm talking about. An 7-8 years old child took a drastic revenge (today) on another 7 years old, in a school.
The headteacher transmitted me through the receptionist that she didn't find who did it and that I should stich his backback. Case closed with no actions that will make the guilty child understand something...even if its told to all. "Children, this is not a joke"...something, anything really. This is what I was expecting from a Normal Headteacher.
Thank you!

I wouldn’t expect the scissors to be taken away from Year 3 because of one incident of a backpack strap being cut, no. It’s perfectly normal to have scissors available in the stationery caddies on their desks, they likely cut and stick things fair often. It’s very melodramatic to leap from a backpack strap being cut to “someone could be stabbed!”.

It sounds like they have spoken to the class (as they say they investigated and no one is coming forward to admit it), so I don’t know what else you want. I’m sure at the time, they stressed to the children that damaging other people’s property is unacceptable, although at 7 they all knew that anyway and if this is bullying then the bully also knew that.

On your situation, I’d be keeping a detailed diary of bullying incidents that are happening to support an investigation down the line when you have a name. But with no suspect and no evidence, the school won’t be able to do anything about this specific incident. Even the police wouldn’t be able to solve a crime without evidence or a name.

CheeseWisely · 29/04/2025 07:00

I’d be questioning why a class of that age have unlimited access to scissors sharp enough to cut through that strap, because average paper / arts and crafts scissors you might use in a classroom wouldn’t easily get through it. Unless of course the child is bringing a blade of some sort into school with him which is a whole other concern!

StarlightLady · 29/04/2025 07:00

OP, an afterthought to add to my previous comments. Request a meeting with the Chair of Governors.

IkeSmile · 29/04/2025 06:59

StarlightLady · 29/04/2025 06:36

I really don’t think this is good enough. I would respond again by email and say that you would like a response from the head. Not a juniot member of staff.

This is what saddens me the most. Case closed with a headteacher hiding from a concerned parent.
With this post I'm gathering enough "data" to formulate an email that will say what I want, with the best words.
English isn't my 1st language, but my heart tells me to make them aware that this is not a joke and needs to be treated with more interest.
Thank you again! ❤️

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Energe · 29/04/2025 06:58

so you do know who did it? Tell the school
the name.

Cleanbed · 29/04/2025 06:57

mummytoonetryingfortwo · 26/04/2025 19:44

Complain to the school. Make the complaint in writing, detailing everything. The school then have to show that complaint and its resolution to Ofsted. Keep a copy of the letter as sent (dated the same date), and send it recorded delivery so they can’t deny receiving it.

I would keep calm and I would do this. I would write it like a report- very factually and unemotional.
I think there will be information about how to complain about a school on the council website
good luck, I’m sorry this is happening to your child.