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Backpack strap cut with scissors

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IkeSmile · 26/04/2025 15:02

Hello everyone!
Back in December I needed your advice for actions against the school who covered bullying of a migrant child. Here we are again, with the same child and his backback strap being cut with a scissor. You can see in the picture that it's a clear cut.
Question?
React and complain in writing or ignore it?
I feel is the same child or a friend of his, acting like a thug? The only people wurh access to the cloakroom are teachers and the pupils.
Thank you!

Backpack strap cut with scissors
OP posts:
mugglewump · 29/04/2025 11:31

Contact the chair of governors. This is not being dealt with properly and is causing both you and your child stress and anxiety. It is the school's duty of care to make sure your child is OK. Tell the chair of governors that you want to know what the school is doing to ensure your child and his/her property is safe at all times during the school day. If they do not sort it, raise it as a safeguarding issue with Ofsted.

PiggyPigalle · 29/04/2025 11:29

The situation isn't going to improve. You say the school is 90% Irish, who you don't like. You've now involved the local press to make matters worse. I'd be applying to a different school and a fresh start.

Growlybear83 · 29/04/2025 11:22

Fraaances · 29/04/2025 11:20

Take it to the police and report it as a hate crime. Let them know of the systemic harrassment.

And the police will ask the OP if she has followed the school’s complaints procedure and what the outcome was. She hasn’t even made a formal written complaint to the school.

Fraaances · 29/04/2025 11:20

Take it to the police and report it as a hate crime. Let them know of the systemic harrassment.

crowsfeet57 · 29/04/2025 11:18

OP you complain about racism and yet practically every comment you make is anti-Irish. If your are displaying this much casual racism in your dealings with the school it's hardly surprising that you aren't getting the response you want.

PiggyPigalle · 29/04/2025 11:17

HumanRightsAreHumanRights · 29/04/2025 09:22

You sound racist against Irish people.

If you are passing such a nasty attitude on to your child, it's no wonder they are not liked by anyone at school, because kids tend to echo what they hear at home.

You said it for me.

Starrybreathofday · 29/04/2025 11:13

TheSlagBrothers · 29/04/2025 11:03

Agreeing with this comment about what actually cut this strap.
Obviously as a strap for a backpack, the straps have to strong enough to hold a fair weight, therefore I think that whatever cuts through that strap has to be pretty sharp. Even adult scissors are going to be hard work getting through it.
As pp says, I’d have some real concerns as to what sharp or bladed article was used to do this. I cannot believe it was standard school scissors at all.
Very concerning.

A standard school scissors could indeed cut a strap like that. I can’t know what was used of course, but a scissors is entirely possible.
They’re sharper than you think, some of them anyway!

OchonAgusOchonOh · 29/04/2025 11:10

IkeSmile · 29/04/2025 10:57

A clear cut as you can see.
Catholic school, close to London.
And yes, we are discriminated and told off. It's not just me, lots of non Irish children have been bullied and nothing is done about. Sad.
I'm now in contact with the local news paper, who's extremely supportive.
Thank you!

I'm a bit surprised that 90% of a school's staff and pupils in a location close to London are Irish. Migration from Ireland to England is no where near as high as it used to be.

tortieCatLover · 29/04/2025 11:10

I wouldn't go to the press - as if you do have to move schools locally it will likely count against you.

I would put complaint in writing and then follow school proceudres to escalate and if you do not get satifaction move schools.

Hoppinggreen · 29/04/2025 11:06

IkeSmile · 29/04/2025 10:57

A clear cut as you can see.
Catholic school, close to London.
And yes, we are discriminated and told off. It's not just me, lots of non Irish children have been bullied and nothing is done about. Sad.
I'm now in contact with the local news paper, who's extremely supportive.
Thank you!

You do realise that the local paper does not care about you or your son at all and just want a story?
Bad idea and I know people who have done similar and have really regretted it.
If they quote you on some things you have said on here you may end up with bigger problems than a damaged back pack

Growlybear83 · 29/04/2025 11:05

Im very sorry to hear about the discrimination you feel you are being subjected to, but you are being VERY unreasonable to have gone straight to the local paper without following the school’s complaints procedure. There are proper ways of doing things and going straight to the press without using the very clear procedures that are in place for all schools will not help your case at all.

TheSlagBrothers · 29/04/2025 11:03

CheeseWisely · 29/04/2025 07:00

I’d be questioning why a class of that age have unlimited access to scissors sharp enough to cut through that strap, because average paper / arts and crafts scissors you might use in a classroom wouldn’t easily get through it. Unless of course the child is bringing a blade of some sort into school with him which is a whole other concern!

Agreeing with this comment about what actually cut this strap.
Obviously as a strap for a backpack, the straps have to strong enough to hold a fair weight, therefore I think that whatever cuts through that strap has to be pretty sharp. Even adult scissors are going to be hard work getting through it.
As pp says, I’d have some real concerns as to what sharp or bladed article was used to do this. I cannot believe it was standard school scissors at all.
Very concerning.

IkeSmile · 29/04/2025 10:57

Ophy83 · 29/04/2025 08:17

As a starting point, are you actually sure the bag has been cut? I ask because I had a backpack strap that broke in exactly that way - a straight line. I think it is the way the strap is manufactured

A clear cut as you can see.
Catholic school, close to London.
And yes, we are discriminated and told off. It's not just me, lots of non Irish children have been bullied and nothing is done about. Sad.
I'm now in contact with the local news paper, who's extremely supportive.
Thank you!

Backpack strap cut with scissors
OP posts:
OchonAgusOchonOh · 29/04/2025 10:38

Starrybreathofday · 29/04/2025 10:08

But she mentions Year 3?

That’s not a term used in ROI.

Maybe you could clarify where you are OP?

Yes. A 7 year old in Ireland would either be in senior infants or 1st class. Even if the op is confused about the terminology as english is not her first language, year 3 makes no sense in the Irish context. Perhaps it's northern Ireland and the op is confusing P3 with year 3?

Winglessvulture · 29/04/2025 10:14

I think you need to look at the complaints policy for the school and their anti-bullying policy. I would then contact the school formally in whatever format they suggest in the complaints policy and outline your concerns and that you are unhappy with how they have been handled so far.

It is really upsetting that your child's belongings have been deliberately damaged, and the school should have a responsibility to look into this properly and raise how unacceptable it is with the class even if they are unable to work out who did it.

If you are unhappy with the response you receive to your complaint you should escalate it as per the policy.

It frustrates me that some schools seem to be unwilling to challenge what is clearly unacceptable behaviour. There are ways to address this and show a recognition that the behaviour is poor even without knowing which child did it.

Starrybreathofday · 29/04/2025 10:08

CaptainMyCaptain · 29/04/2025 10:01

I'm assuming the OP is in Ireland and that is why the majority of children and teachers are Irish.

But she mentions Year 3?

That’s not a term used in ROI.

Maybe you could clarify where you are OP?

Starrybreathofday · 29/04/2025 10:04

Mulledjuice · 29/04/2025 09:53

This advice was in the first reply you received.

I'm very sorry your child has been bullied, that must be horrible. I suggest you do not mention the % of Irish pupils or teachers at the school. It won't help your case. And you risk accusations of racism back at you.

I think refraining from saying the backpack culprit will be moving on to stabbing other children in the neck might be wise too.

CaptainMyCaptain · 29/04/2025 10:01

Moonnstars · 29/04/2025 07:49

Where are you based? You seem to be coming across as blaming a specific group of people (Irish).
You say the school is good but why is there no teacher and constant supply?
I think I would be trying to move my child.

I'm assuming the OP is in Ireland and that is why the majority of children and teachers are Irish.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 29/04/2025 10:01

Hoppinggreen · 29/04/2025 09:54

I ddin't read it like that, I read it that Op and her family are one of only a few from outside Ireland and are being treated differently because of that. Its more that they are being treated badly as "incomers" than Irish people are all racist
I could be wrong though

Highly unlikely the op is in Ireland as a 7 year old would be in either senior infants or 1st class, not year 3.

WinterFoxes · 29/04/2025 10:01

The massive problem here is the school's attitude to bullying. It's always reflected from the top down and the Head doesn't care so no one else does either. My DC were at a primary school with similar useless head.

Let your son know it's not okay. I found it effective to go calmly to the teacher of Head and say, so if someone cut the straps from your work bag, would you be happy the matter was closed same day with no investigation? Press for an answer. Also ask to see the written bullying policy and check they have followed procedure. And complain to the Governors.

Lots of people will think this is OTT. But we either condone bullying or we don't. I don't. So make it as difficult for them to as you can.

tamade · 29/04/2025 10:00

CloverPyramid · 28/04/2025 20:49

What solution are you wanting here?

If they don’t have CCTV (likely), you don’t know which child did it and your son won’t tell anyone- what can they actually do? At best, they can give the whole class a lecture and ask the person (or their friends who know who they are) to come forward. But if they don’t, there’s really not anything they can do.

I fully agree that they should take action against the bully, if they know who they are and have evidence. But if it’s someone unknown, they’re kind of stuck even if they have stringent anti-bullying policies.

Edited

Some corrective actions to prevent recurrence? That's what is expected in my workplace.
Get CCTV?
Lock cloak rooms, have staff present when they are open?
Count sharp objects in and out of classroom stores?

Obviously I don't work in a school, I work in aerospace where mistakes can cost lives so maybe I am overreacting about a few sharp objects in a school....

Starrybreathofday · 29/04/2025 10:00

Hoppinggreen · 29/04/2025 09:54

I ddin't read it like that, I read it that Op and her family are one of only a few from outside Ireland and are being treated differently because of that. Its more that they are being treated badly as "incomers" than Irish people are all racist
I could be wrong though

If so it reads oddly, because from details the OP has mentioned it doesn’t seem as if she’s in Ireland. Not ROI anyway, unless she’s using unusual terminology for the classes?

tortieCatLover · 29/04/2025 09:59

Superhansrantowindsor · 29/04/2025 07:09

You need to put complaint in writing. I also suggest you request a copy of the schools anti bullying policy and official complaints policy. Your poor dc having this done to him in year 3.

This.

Putting a complaint in writing seems to mean it gets treated seriously - and if you do via e-mail or dated letter - (keep a copy) you can refer back to it in future if needed.

Some schools are bad with bullying - and I know a few kids who in end just moved and were so much better off having done so - despite dire warnings problems would just follow them.

CaptainMyCaptain · 29/04/2025 09:59

StarlightLady · 29/04/2025 06:36

I really don’t think this is good enough. I would respond again by email and say that you would like a response from the head. Not a juniot member of staff.

I agree.

MightAsWellBeGretel · 29/04/2025 09:59

This sounds like a terrible school! Is there any possibility of moving your child to another?

I've never known a primary school to use sharp scissors. Usually, they're the round ones that are pretty useless for anything except paper. The constant turnover of teachers and lack of supervision sounds concerning. They're probably rewarding the bull because the teachers themselves don't want to be targeted by him!