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Another bedroom one. Disagree with DH, AIBU?

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Georgey0 · 26/04/2025 08:32

Just wondering people's opinions on this.

We currently live in a 4 bedroom house. There is DH and I in the master, our DD 7 in 2nd room, our DS 4 in 3rd room and DSC 15 & 13 share the 4th bedroom (which is a double).

DSC stay with us 3 nights a week technically but as they have been getting older this is starting to get more flexible with some weeks it being less now.

They have been saying for a while that they wish they didn't have to share a bedroom, which I understand, but at the same time they don't stay all that often now and they do have the biggest of the rooms aside from the master which then sits empty for over half the week. I do not want DD or DS having to share a room in their only home so that two bedrooms can then sit empty for the majority of the week which seems unfair and DH does agree.

DH and I have separate finances, we pay bills jointly and anything like family holidays together but the rest is separate, inc savings.

DH has been making noises for a while about wanting to convert our loft into a 5th bedroom so that everyone can have their own rooms, he feels as though this would encourage DSC to stay more too.

I was open to the idea but we recently had someone in to do a quote and it is a LOT of work and therefore a lot of money. We could technically afford it but it would eat practically the entirety of both of our savings.

DH is still keen to proceed, I do not want to. I am not against DSC having their own rooms and if it was do able and financially viable, I would. But I don't agree that it's worth practically everything we have in our savings accounts and to be honest, I do feel a bit resentful that I am expected to fork out everything I have too so that DSC can have another room. Imo I don't believe it will make any real difference to the amount of time spent here, I don't agree it's solely down to not wanting to share, they are getting older, especially the 15 (nearly 16yo) who spends nearly every evening and weekend with friends now.

I don't think it's worth my savings to have extensive work done to the house for an extra bedroom that in all reality is probably only going to be used semi regularly for a few more years.

There is other work we could use that money for, like a new kitchen / landscaping the garden and it isn't worth it imo.

DH thinks I'm being unreasonable not to want to spend my savings on this, I think he's unreasonable expecting me to without question. He says it benefits me as well because the house will ultimately be worth more with a 5th bedroom, which I appreciate but we don't intend to move anyway any time soon.

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Grammarnut · 26/04/2025 13:15

KateDelRick · 26/04/2025 13:07

That's not treating them fairly or equally. Why should the DC have to share? It's their only space.

Surely they have the whole house? It's their permanent home. Equality is not the same as equity.

Octocat · 26/04/2025 13:14

Any way to put a second window into the room they currently share, OP? Then you could divide it.

CoffeeBeansGalore · 26/04/2025 13:12

Do the garden room. If you can include a small ensuite with shower, even better. You could put up security cameras with apps on your phones if concerned about safety.
Done properly with heating & insulation these cabins are lovely.
Sounds like Dsc is on board with this. Their own chill out space, play games, music, own tv etc.
Could always be turned into a home office later on. Or a "guest wing".

Snapncrackle · 26/04/2025 13:12

I would go down the garden home office / room
it would be cheaper than an extension and done right can add value to the house

my son has one in his garden it used to be the old garage and the previous owners insulated it put in electrics / mini kitchen / water and sliding doors and skylights and it’s really nice apart from being to hot / cold
they use it for guest and extra space

however if you don’t have a back access to the garden about how your going to get it in and any ground work that needs to be done

my sons neighbor is doing a garden room and they have had to remove loads of soil and had to take it through the house to remove it

KateDelRick · 26/04/2025 13:07

Grammarnut · 26/04/2025 13:06

Simple solution. Put your DC into the large room and give the DSC the two smaller bedrooms. This is fair. 3 days a week is a large chunk of the week and your DC are young enough to share. In a couple of years DSC will cease to come every week because they are older and have other things to do and at that point your DC can have separate rooms.
It's necessary to treat the DC equally, which means the older DC get separate rooms. Really, you need a 5 bed house - you could move perhaps or possibly extend downstairs?

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That's not treating them fairly or equally. Why should the DC have to share? It's their only space.

FinallyHere · 26/04/2025 13:07

Lots of people talk about ‘going to uni’ as if the bedroom was no longer needed thereafter. DSS2 ‘s Oxford terms were each eight weeks, a total of 24wks so still home more than 50%

By not providing their own room, you are sending a message they they are tolerated rather than wanted as, yes, you will see them less and less.

that may be what OP is angling for, let’s hope their father (and siblings) have another view.

short term I would convert the stand alone sitting room and stop the DC using it when DSSs are not around or it will not feel like their own space as the younger ones will forget and burst in when he is there.

not ideal, but I agree that it will very much determine your relationship with them. Don’t try and alienate them, please.

Grammarnut · 26/04/2025 13:06

Simple solution. Put your DC into the large room and give the DSC the two smaller bedrooms. This is fair. 3 days a week is a large chunk of the week and your DC are young enough to share. In a couple of years DSC will cease to come every week because they are older and have other things to do and at that point your DC can have separate rooms.
It's necessary to treat the DC equally, which means the older DC get separate rooms. Really, you need a 5 bed house - you could move perhaps or possibly extend downstairs?

Pinkbleach · 26/04/2025 13:06

Could you not just have your children share when they stay so that they can have their own space ?

we have a 3 bed . My 2 DC ( same sex ) are 12 and 18. My DSC is 15. When they were younger mine shared and SC had their own room . SC used to stay on a regular basis. As they all grew it became impractical for my DC to share and SC only came on weekends which has now changed to every few weeks ( at the age of 15 SC has friends near where they live with Mum and prefers to be there so they can see their friends , which is understandable ) so now , when SC stays my DC share a room. We spoke with SC about this , they understood , all things are at their Mums anyway and any clothes etc we bought ended up going back because they wanted to wear / use them more than the times they were here .

It works well for us . Maybe that could be an option ?

YANBU to not want to spend loads on an extra room because in all honesty at their age , it’s likely they will come less and less when they’re older if Mums is their ‘main’ home.

Owlicecream88 · 26/04/2025 13:03

This is a difficult one. But I do mostly agree with the OP. If the step children are older teens then realistically this is only going to be an issue for another few years. If they were younger then I would say something needs to change and it would be worth spending the money. But there's no point spending lots of money and time making a 5th bedroom if you don't actually need it. And at the end of the day, it sounds like you can't afford it if it would eat up all your savings.
When I turned 18 I didn't have a bedroom at my mum's OR my dad's. Once I went off to uni I slept on a sofa bed when I did stay over.

thestudio · 26/04/2025 13:02

Georgey0 · 26/04/2025 08:43

I've suggested this loads of times, he doesn't like the idea because one would end up without a window on one side, which I understand too but it doesn't need to be a permanent structure, even just a sliding curtain or door could work.

The room absolutely is big enough to split but there is only one window in the centre so difficult to separate with an official wall.

I am not against DSC having their own room, but I don't want to spend all of my money on doing so, I was willing to do it but the cost is significantly more than we were expecting due to the work required unfortunately.

It can often be less than 3 nights a week now too, which I don't see changing much even if they did have their own rooms.

You could split the window in two (and enlarge it if necessary) and put a dividing stud in for far less than the loft conversion. Or that bed arrangement upthread is amazing. You could make it teen aspirational with built in tech etc.

I had a small room when I was a teen and I actually really loved it, it was like a cocoon.

KateDelRick · 26/04/2025 12:57

JHound · 26/04/2025 12:54

How os not equal? They don’t there?

Yes, I agree. They're in the house part of the time, I genuinely don't know what's wrong with sharing a bedroom. I wouldn't go to the trouble and expense of re- configuring/extending a house when it's unnecessary.

JHound · 26/04/2025 12:54

Redcarbluevan · 26/04/2025 08:35

He need to treat his children equally and this isn’t equal.

How os not equal? They don’t there?

WutheringTights · 26/04/2025 12:52

Knocking another window in the big bedroom to properly partition it would likely to cheaper than a loft conversion?

viques · 26/04/2025 12:50

I would certainly consider the loft conversion. Yes it would cost, but would add more value to your house than your suggestion of landscaping the garden for example. The SC are of an age when they are, or will be , studying for exams and a decent space to do that is important, especially since they spend three nights with you.

Christmasmorale · 26/04/2025 12:48

@Georgey0 why don’t you and DH swap bedrooms with them and partition the master bedroom into two rooms for step DC. Sounds like you have the biggest bedroom and given it’s a master bedroom, there might be two windows meaning both partitions would have natural daylight.

Talipesmum · 26/04/2025 12:46

Georgey0 · 26/04/2025 08:43

I've suggested this loads of times, he doesn't like the idea because one would end up without a window on one side, which I understand too but it doesn't need to be a permanent structure, even just a sliding curtain or door could work.

The room absolutely is big enough to split but there is only one window in the centre so difficult to separate with an official wall.

I am not against DSC having their own room, but I don't want to spend all of my money on doing so, I was willing to do it but the cost is significantly more than we were expecting due to the work required unfortunately.

It can often be less than 3 nights a week now too, which I don't see changing much even if they did have their own rooms.

Any chance you can add another window? If it’s on an outside wall it’d surely be cheaper than a loft conversion.

judduelong · 26/04/2025 12:46

BankHolidayBonanza · 26/04/2025 12:43

for a start, does me being a step-child counts?
Not that I am pretending to represent all the step-children, but you asked.

I am seeing more angry and bitter ex on these threads , angry against the new wife, than step-kids with complaints.

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There's plenty of threads where step children try and explain how shit it is but they generally get ignored. Maybe that's why you haven't seen them

BankHolidayBonanza · 26/04/2025 12:43

judduelong · 26/04/2025 12:40

Have you any experience of being a step child? Any at all?

for a start, does me being a step-child counts?
Not that I am pretending to represent all the step-children, but you asked.

I am seeing more angry and bitter ex on these threads , angry against the new wife, than step-kids with complaints.

Theroadt · 26/04/2025 12:43

I can see both sides tbh BUT overall I think do the loft conversion. You do sound (to my ears) a weeny bit resentful of the DSCs and this maybe what your husband is trying to compensate for.

Pikablue · 26/04/2025 12:42

SheridansPortSalut · 26/04/2025 12:05

Let the teenagers have their own rooms. When the two younger ones are teenagers they'll have their own rooms too but they don't need them now.

It's coming across as though you want to create an environment where the older kids stay less.

It seems OP just doesn't want to spend all of her savings on it, I'm sure if DH was willing to pay for a room for his children she wouldn't mind. Can't blame her, I wonder if a woman posted saying her husband was hesitant to clear out his account to pay for a loft conversion people would say he just had to suck it up. Can guess the answers!

BankHolidayBonanza · 26/04/2025 12:42

judduelong · 26/04/2025 12:37

Celebrating stuff twice does not make up for the fact that they're from a broken home.

That's incredibly shallow thinking.

but the broken home is done. You might think people staying together and living in a toxic and angry house is best, I don't agree.

Once the split is done, people manage in the best way they can. OF COURSE things will be different because one child has 2 homes, and one child has one home. It doesn't mean one child is seen as superior or inferior.

Up to the adult to stop pretending difference means treating them less well.

Celebrating twice is not a compensation for parents spliting up, it's a fact proving that there will be difference. Trying to put a judgement of value on these differences is ridiculous.

judduelong · 26/04/2025 12:40

BankHolidayBonanza · 26/04/2025 12:39

"treating the same" is a ridiculous concept. It doesn't even work with your own children living together!

You adapt based on need, personality, age and it's a very normal thing to do. It's children, not robots.

On the basis of "treating the same", are you suggesting to stop celebrating their birthday if they already had one with their mum, as "treating the same" means every child celebrate their birthday once? How ridiculous would that be.

Have you any experience of being a step child? Any at all?

Thisisittheapocalypse · 26/04/2025 12:39

ZekeZeke · 26/04/2025 08:38

Rather that doing any conversion I would (for 6 months/a year) give the Step children their own room.
At your children's ages I would have them share, the step children are older and need their own space.

See how many times they stay over the 6 months, then you can make a balanced judgement.

I would absolutely not do this.

Can't even being to imagine the fall out if you give them their own rooms at the expense of children who live their full time, only to then take their rooms away from them 'for not staying more'? All planned out in advance to do it this way, too...

Or, say it works ... now you have a boy/girl sharing which isn't sustainable for much longer.

I would split the room with a clever use of bunk beds with many examples online.

BankHolidayBonanza · 26/04/2025 12:39

Poonu · 26/04/2025 12:30

Why did you marry a man with children if you weren't prepared to treat them the same as your shared children? I feel sorry for them and your DH

"treating the same" is a ridiculous concept. It doesn't even work with your own children living together!

You adapt based on need, personality, age and it's a very normal thing to do. It's children, not robots.

On the basis of "treating the same", are you suggesting to stop celebrating their birthday if they already had one with their mum, as "treating the same" means every child celebrate their birthday once? How ridiculous would that be.

judduelong · 26/04/2025 12:37

BankHolidayBonanza · 26/04/2025 12:35

only if a bitter parent is making them feel that way because they are jealous of the new family of their ex-partner.

Yes, things are DIFFERENT for those living full-time in a house.

Meanwhile, the children have 2 houses, celebrate everything twice - I don't know any family who don't celebrate birthdays, christmas, Easter with their kids so they get 1 celebration with each parent! They get 2 sets of holidays, one with each parent, and so on.

It's so disingenuous to pretend the younger ones are treated better.

Maybe the children would prefer for their parents to still be together, but a toxic environment of 2 adults who don't get on anymore is not ideal. Once the parents have split up, things are different.

It would be very unfair to penalise the younger ones.

Celebrating stuff twice does not make up for the fact that they're from a broken home.

That's incredibly shallow thinking.

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