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Another bedroom one. Disagree with DH, AIBU?

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Georgey0 · 26/04/2025 08:32

Just wondering people's opinions on this.

We currently live in a 4 bedroom house. There is DH and I in the master, our DD 7 in 2nd room, our DS 4 in 3rd room and DSC 15 & 13 share the 4th bedroom (which is a double).

DSC stay with us 3 nights a week technically but as they have been getting older this is starting to get more flexible with some weeks it being less now.

They have been saying for a while that they wish they didn't have to share a bedroom, which I understand, but at the same time they don't stay all that often now and they do have the biggest of the rooms aside from the master which then sits empty for over half the week. I do not want DD or DS having to share a room in their only home so that two bedrooms can then sit empty for the majority of the week which seems unfair and DH does agree.

DH and I have separate finances, we pay bills jointly and anything like family holidays together but the rest is separate, inc savings.

DH has been making noises for a while about wanting to convert our loft into a 5th bedroom so that everyone can have their own rooms, he feels as though this would encourage DSC to stay more too.

I was open to the idea but we recently had someone in to do a quote and it is a LOT of work and therefore a lot of money. We could technically afford it but it would eat practically the entirety of both of our savings.

DH is still keen to proceed, I do not want to. I am not against DSC having their own rooms and if it was do able and financially viable, I would. But I don't agree that it's worth practically everything we have in our savings accounts and to be honest, I do feel a bit resentful that I am expected to fork out everything I have too so that DSC can have another room. Imo I don't believe it will make any real difference to the amount of time spent here, I don't agree it's solely down to not wanting to share, they are getting older, especially the 15 (nearly 16yo) who spends nearly every evening and weekend with friends now.

I don't think it's worth my savings to have extensive work done to the house for an extra bedroom that in all reality is probably only going to be used semi regularly for a few more years.

There is other work we could use that money for, like a new kitchen / landscaping the garden and it isn't worth it imo.

DH thinks I'm being unreasonable not to want to spend my savings on this, I think he's unreasonable expecting me to without question. He says it benefits me as well because the house will ultimately be worth more with a 5th bedroom, which I appreciate but we don't intend to move anyway any time soon.

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Redcarbluevan · 26/04/2025 08:47

ChompinCrocodiles · 26/04/2025 08:44

His elder children have parents who live in different houses. His younger children don't.

It's not possible for these children to be treated 'equally'. To think they can be is naiive because their situations are not the same.

It’s 3 days a week not every other weekend.

BendingSpoons · 26/04/2025 08:46

I think YABU. Your DH has offered several options and you are rejecting all of them. It is likely to impact how keen they are to stay.

I personally would look at what you can do with the lounge to make it a multi-purpose space that the eldest DSC can use when they stay.

RentalWoesNotFun · 26/04/2025 08:46

I would look at ways to do the loft conversion more cheaply if I could. Like decorate it myself as it would save a bit or not use as expensive fittings etc. as it would add value to the house. I’d get more quotes.

Could you split any of the rooms by dividing them?

Could give the step children the master in the meantime and you move into theirs? I know they’d still be sharing but if dh wants them to have an incentive to stay…? He’s trying to see it from their point of view. Sharing at that age sucks.

Is there a dining room that’s barely used that could be converted?

Could you get a garden room that could be used as a teen space/ bedroom etc (if it’s a safe area where you are).

I wouldn’t spend money on landscaping. An extra room would add more value. And if you might downsize once all the kids fly the nest that extra value would come in handy.

MellowPinkDeer · 26/04/2025 08:46

I think you’ve missed the boat really as the oldest is already 15, by the time the work is done they will be at parties and having a life. I assume they have thier own rooms at their mums house?

Georgey0 · 26/04/2025 08:46

Darkambergingerlily · 26/04/2025 08:42

I think you are being unfair. 3 nights a week is considerable time at your house. It’s their home too

But this is exactly my point, this is clearly starting to change as they are getting older now. Some weeks it's much less than that and I don't think it's because of the bedrooms, they are just getting older (especially eldest who often cba to move between houses anymore).

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CopperWhite · 26/04/2025 08:46

I feel like he just thinks this house is his to change about however best suits his kids and I'm expected to pay for the privilege too.

You sound like you think the house is yours to have how you want and the three other peoples needs are irrelevant to you.

If you’re splitting costs equally, he is currently subsidising your children having their own room at the expense of his children.

Why should he pay for your children to have their own rooms when you can’t see that his children deserve the same?

He’s rightly scared that if he can’t provide a space for his children that they want to be in, then they won’t want to spend time with him anymore. You should be doing everything you can to support his relationship with his children seeing as he has agreed to live with yours.

lechatnoir · 26/04/2025 08:46

You could spend far less than a loft conversion on some really nice sliding/partition doors for the playroom, invest in a decent sofa bed and some storage for clothes that is useful for a playroom and give this room up to eldest DSC when they come to stay. At 15/16 it won’t be long before they are more independent and wont always come as a pair so each could then use the 4th bedroom if they aren’t both staying. if there isn’t private space, your DH is right, they may well stop coming and for that reason I think you need to come up with some sort of compromise.

other option which will be fine for a few years whilst your dc are still young (& what we do when we have guests) is add a bunk bed to one of your dc rooms and they share when dsc come to stay and one gives up their room for one of the dsc.

2025ishere · 26/04/2025 08:45

Converting the lift is not throwing money away, it’s investing in your property and increasing its value. So you and your step children, your DH’s children, will benefit. Having your own space for studying if at all possible is really important as kids hit the exam years.

Mumofteenandtween · 26/04/2025 08:45

I would discuss with an estate agent how much the change will increase the value of the house. If it is more than the cost then I would go ahead. However, these days loft conversions often aren’t. In that case I would only be willing to pay half the increase, not half the cost. I would also be very clear with Dh that any additional costs would not be mine.

Basically I would be happy to exchange my savings for extra equity in the house. I would not be happy to just hand over my savings. This is the thing about separate finances - if people insist on them then they can’t complain about how you choose to spend them. (Or choose not to spend them.)

SouthLondonMum22 · 26/04/2025 08:45

DH doesn't get any say on what you spend your savings on, that's the beauty of having separate finances.

I'd see if you can find a way of them having more privacy in the current room they are in such as room dividers but there's no way I'd be draining my savings for a loft conversation when it's possible they will still hardly use it.

ChompinCrocodiles · 26/04/2025 08:44

Redcarbluevan · 26/04/2025 08:35

He need to treat his children equally and this isn’t equal.

His elder children have parents who live in different houses. His younger children don't.

It's not possible for these children to be treated 'equally'. To think they can be is naiive because their situations are not the same.

Sofiewoo · 26/04/2025 08:44

It’s chicken and egg too though, they choose to spend less time at their dad’s house because they are put as less important than the dads newer children and their experience there isn’t great due to that.

Mylovelygreendress · 26/04/2025 08:44

I am not sure why there is an obsession about same sex DC having their own rooms these days ? It sounds like the house is big enough for someone to find a space to quietly read or whatever if they need to be on their own for a while.,
I cannot see the point in spending all the savings on a room that is barely used .

Redcarbluevan · 26/04/2025 08:44

It seems this isn’t their home- it’s your home and they are visiting. I would hate this because you could do something about it but have chosen not to.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 26/04/2025 08:43

I can see this from both perspectives. You’d be spending your money on the house in a way that benefits someone else’s children.

Could a compromise be that the loft is done but all rooms are reconfigured. The two children who live there full time and have more toys get the two bigger rooms and the the two SC have the smaller rooms because they don’t need as much space for stuff? As long as their rooms are well-furnished and decorated, that doesn’t feel unfair to me considering they aren’t there as much.

Cosyblankets · 26/04/2025 08:43

Couldn't the younger ones share the double?

Georgey0 · 26/04/2025 08:43

Gizlotsmum · 26/04/2025 08:38

Would it be cheaper to split one of the bigger rooms into 2 if that would work?

I've suggested this loads of times, he doesn't like the idea because one would end up without a window on one side, which I understand too but it doesn't need to be a permanent structure, even just a sliding curtain or door could work.

The room absolutely is big enough to split but there is only one window in the centre so difficult to separate with an official wall.

I am not against DSC having their own room, but I don't want to spend all of my money on doing so, I was willing to do it but the cost is significantly more than we were expecting due to the work required unfortunately.

It can often be less than 3 nights a week now too, which I don't see changing much even if they did have their own rooms.

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ZekeZeke · 26/04/2025 08:43

Georgey0 · 26/04/2025 08:40

I will absolutely not be doing this. Our DC are already in the smaller bedrooms and have far more toys etc.. than DSC, they live here full time. I'm not taking their rooms from them.

You say your SC stay 3 nights a week, that's a LOT!
Can I ask why you are bothering to post if you are disagreeing with suggestions.
If you have the play room/area downstairs why not make that into a bedroom? Let your kids play in their bedrooms
Kids don't need playrooms

Love51 · 26/04/2025 08:43

I feel like he just thinks this house is his to change about however best suits his kids and I'm expected to pay for the privilege too.
OP
Yeah, that's how marriage works. You create a home for your children!

MadamCholetsbonnet · 26/04/2025 08:43

Given the DSC are same sex, YANBU.

They are most likely going to stay over less often. Just say you aren’t prepared to use your savings for this.

Obviously if DSC were to move in full time, you might have to rethink it.

Darkambergingerlily · 26/04/2025 08:42

I think you are being unfair. 3 nights a week is considerable time at your house. It’s their home too

Georgey0 · 26/04/2025 08:40

ZekeZeke · 26/04/2025 08:38

Rather that doing any conversion I would (for 6 months/a year) give the Step children their own room.
At your children's ages I would have them share, the step children are older and need their own space.

See how many times they stay over the 6 months, then you can make a balanced judgement.

I will absolutely not be doing this. Our DC are already in the smaller bedrooms and have far more toys etc.. than DSC, they live here full time. I'm not taking their rooms from them.

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Love51 · 26/04/2025 08:40

You don't mention the DSC sex. If they are different sexes I think they should have had their own rooms for years already.
How about do the loft now, splitting it 75/25, he gets a loan if he needs to. Then down the line do the kitchen with you putting up the bulk of the money?
It keeps you away from having to cut your cloth to suit the DSC and allows him to do what he needs to for his kids.

CopperWhite · 26/04/2025 08:39

You can’t insist that your children have a room each and then put a block on that happening for his children.

Could you put the dsc in the master bedroom and partition it so they each get their own space, and you have the room they’re currently in?

If something is important for your children, it is equally important for his.

HelenWheels · 26/04/2025 08:39

i think as they are the same sex and there is less chance they will spend more time at their age with you,
surely they arent going to suddenly going to want to move in permanently?

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