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Another bedroom one. Disagree with DH, AIBU?

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Georgey0 · 26/04/2025 08:32

Just wondering people's opinions on this.

We currently live in a 4 bedroom house. There is DH and I in the master, our DD 7 in 2nd room, our DS 4 in 3rd room and DSC 15 & 13 share the 4th bedroom (which is a double).

DSC stay with us 3 nights a week technically but as they have been getting older this is starting to get more flexible with some weeks it being less now.

They have been saying for a while that they wish they didn't have to share a bedroom, which I understand, but at the same time they don't stay all that often now and they do have the biggest of the rooms aside from the master which then sits empty for over half the week. I do not want DD or DS having to share a room in their only home so that two bedrooms can then sit empty for the majority of the week which seems unfair and DH does agree.

DH and I have separate finances, we pay bills jointly and anything like family holidays together but the rest is separate, inc savings.

DH has been making noises for a while about wanting to convert our loft into a 5th bedroom so that everyone can have their own rooms, he feels as though this would encourage DSC to stay more too.

I was open to the idea but we recently had someone in to do a quote and it is a LOT of work and therefore a lot of money. We could technically afford it but it would eat practically the entirety of both of our savings.

DH is still keen to proceed, I do not want to. I am not against DSC having their own rooms and if it was do able and financially viable, I would. But I don't agree that it's worth practically everything we have in our savings accounts and to be honest, I do feel a bit resentful that I am expected to fork out everything I have too so that DSC can have another room. Imo I don't believe it will make any real difference to the amount of time spent here, I don't agree it's solely down to not wanting to share, they are getting older, especially the 15 (nearly 16yo) who spends nearly every evening and weekend with friends now.

I don't think it's worth my savings to have extensive work done to the house for an extra bedroom that in all reality is probably only going to be used semi regularly for a few more years.

There is other work we could use that money for, like a new kitchen / landscaping the garden and it isn't worth it imo.

DH thinks I'm being unreasonable not to want to spend my savings on this, I think he's unreasonable expecting me to without question. He says it benefits me as well because the house will ultimately be worth more with a 5th bedroom, which I appreciate but we don't intend to move anyway any time soon.

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MightAsWellBeGretel · 26/04/2025 10:48

Flowerpower456 · 26/04/2025 10:45

No, it’s her husband’s responsibility.

Awful.

Flowerpower456 · 26/04/2025 10:48

NetZeroZealot · 26/04/2025 10:14

So you don’t have a guest bedroom either?
What about when the older SC start wanting to invite their girlfriend or boyfriend to stay?
You need to create another bedroom. It will be used less when the eldest goes to Uni but they will still want to visit in the holidays. And it can be used as a guest room when they aren’t there.
The simplest option seems to be converting the second reception room as presumably that just means moving furniture around.

Sorry but why do they have to have a room for guests? Very offensive to the majority of families who can afford houses that barely meet their own sleep needs without the luxuries of extra space. Get real

slippingdowntheabyss · 26/04/2025 10:46

Wake op and listen to you.
There is many red flags going on... Listen to your gut.

Flowerpower456 · 26/04/2025 10:45

MightAsWellBeGretel · 26/04/2025 10:38

They may not be permanent residents, but it should feel as much their house as their step siblings, and obviously it doesn't with this situation -they are being treated like guests.

It was your decision to get with a man who already had two children and bring another two children into the mix. Your step children are at tricky ages, I think you need to accommodate them. Realistically, it'll only be for three years or so.

No, it’s her husband’s responsibility.

JudgeJ · 26/04/2025 10:45

Redcarbluevan · 26/04/2025 08:35

He need to treat his children equally and this isn’t equal.

On MN that usually means the step children getting exactly what they want, which is hardly equal.

BankHolidayBonanza · 26/04/2025 10:45

Grazeboard

If I meet someone with kids, they automatically become my kids once we cement our relationship, my home is THEIR home, everything I have I will SHARE with them, they are a part of me and I will do whatever it takes to make them HAPPY, comfortable and have a 'home from home' until they go home.

Of course, everyone is a perfect parent (or step-parent) until they have children 😂so well done you.

If nothing else, how bizarre to want to put your own children aside and not prioritise them. How ridiculous to pretend you would meet mteenagers and suddenly feel exactly the same for them as your own children.

On an anonymous forum, it's so easy. Maybe don't try it in real life, you are in for a massive shock if you are even genuine.

lessglittermoremud · 26/04/2025 10:43

I personally would do the loft if you can afford it you are totally right it is expensive and an upheaval (we’ve recently done ours) but it has also added value to our house as well as allowing our children to have their own rooms even though 2 of them could have easily shared as same sex/small age gap.
i would put a master bedroom and a bathroom in the loft and have the children on the lower floor if they aren’t of an age that need you frequently in the night.
3 nights a week is not an insignificant amount of time and having a guest room is handy anyway if you have family to stay or use it as extra income.
You don’t want a bedroom downstairs, you don’t want to do the loft, you don’t sound like you are offering any flexibility and if I was your husband I would resent that a little.

Whatsnmynameagain9 · 26/04/2025 10:43

a 4yo and 7yo can share for a couple of years. At that age, my children only used the bedrooms for sleeping and a bit of play after evening bath. Teenagers do need their own space and will use it.

do the younger ones have a playroom?

MightAsWellBeGretel · 26/04/2025 10:42

HelenWheels · 26/04/2025 10:32

i think this thread has too much emotion posts, it is a logical situation as well as financial

Well, the logical thing would be for people not to have second families, wouldn't it? That's not how life woks though, emotions do come into it.

Halfemptyhalfling · 26/04/2025 10:41

I would have the second reception room as a bedroom for the oldest dsc but with a comfy but fold up bed so it can revert to a reception room when they are not around. That means no empty rooms. All renovation is much more expensive now and dsc might prefer their dad to help them more with a house deposit instead.

CanYouTurnItDown · 26/04/2025 10:40

HelenWheels · 26/04/2025 10:32

i think this thread has too much emotion posts, it is a logical situation as well as financial

Oh I’ll tell that to the many young people I work with who continue to be affected by these dynamics into adulthood. Who struggle with feeling not good enough, like they weren’t valued or loved, like their parents prioritized the new kids needs over their own. The people whose relationships into adulthood are affected by feeling that they don’t deserve to be treated well.

I’ll just tell them ‘you’re too emotional about this stuff, it’s a logical / financial decision because your step mum wanted a new kitchen / landscape gardener’

TiredCatLady · 26/04/2025 10:39

People saying “oh it’ll add value to your property, why wouldn’t you have it converted”…
Well for starters you’ve clearly never lived in a house having a loft conversion done - it’s not a quick bit of boarding out and painting. Weeks/months of disruption and even with the best builders there is mess and dust that gets everywhere. There are almost always extra costs.
It doesn’t guarantee an increase in property value - taking a 2 bed to a 3 bed, it probably will. Taking a 4 bed to a 5 bed, maybe not - what’s the demand for 5 beds in the area etc?
Biggest of all: it will eat up all of both of their savings. This is critical - savings are a safety net, a buffer. There are regularly posts on here of people panicking when something goes wrong and they haven’t the means to fix it. Boiler packs up? Car bites the dust? Someone loses their job? If all of their savings are gone then they’re in one seriously precarious position.

I would however, talk to the SC (they’re old enough) and ask them what they would like before making any kind of decision on reconfiguring rooms. What do they actually need space wise, would one of them be happy in the downstairs room? (Lots of people don’t like downstairs bedrooms) How would they like their existing room divided up if possible. Bring them into the conversation instead of Dad assuming that a loft conversion etc is the answer.

MightAsWellBeGretel · 26/04/2025 10:38

They may not be permanent residents, but it should feel as much their house as their step siblings, and obviously it doesn't with this situation -they are being treated like guests.

It was your decision to get with a man who already had two children and bring another two children into the mix. Your step children are at tricky ages, I think you need to accommodate them. Realistically, it'll only be for three years or so.

Blushingm · 26/04/2025 10:38

You’ll be adding to the value of your home

you say their room can’t be split, but can the master bedroom be split and you move in to their room as you say it’s so big

do you DC have so many toys that they have their own rooms AND a play room?

I can see why the DSC are wanting to spend less time there as you sound like you don’t make them feel very at home/wanted there if you’re not willing to compromise in any way for them

Ghosttofu99 · 26/04/2025 10:38

Is so the loft conversion, if you can afford it, as it would add value to your house. Maybe with an agreement with your husband that he will contribute more to refilling your savings afterwards.

Calliopespa · 26/04/2025 10:35

BownnTown · 26/04/2025 10:20

No her kids should not have been made to share, they live there 100% of the time! It would be madness for two bedrooms to be sat empty most of the week

Surely rooms being “sat empty” matters less than children’s feelings.

muggart · 26/04/2025 10:34

Grazeboard · 26/04/2025 10:15

You sound very bitter and spiteful. When you met this man you KNEW he had children from a previous relationship, you then made the decision to MARRY him, but have an issue when it comes to him making sensible decisions about HIS children that came before YOUR children with him.

It's all about 'my babies this and my babies that', and as soon as it comes to using your savings/funds to do something that will BENEFIT his other children, you have an issue with it and your antenna goes up.

When you married him you made a vow to take on everything that comes with him. When you told him 'I love you and want to spend the rest of my life with you', that includes embracing all that he is and all they he has. You don't get to 'pick and choose'/turn your nose up at his other kids when it suits you, whilst making sure that 'your' children have 'first refusal' on everything.

You are the reason why I will never let my kids have a step parent, because some not all, will remind you they are not biologically theirs and are never going to love them the way you do. These sneaky, snidey, spiteful outbursts that bother you so much says that you don't truly love these kids like they were your own, you love the man, not his kids.

If I meet someone with kids, they automatically become my kids once we cement our relationship, my home is THEIR home, everything I have I will SHARE with them, they are a part of me and I will do whatever it takes to make them HAPPY, comfortable and have a 'home from home' until they go home.

You're seeing it as 'fk that, these our OUR savings, why should I use them to benefit YOUR kids from a PREVIOUS relationship.

That's exactly how this comes across.

I would start weighing up what means 'more' to you; your marriage, your children, his children, or all 3 combined, because from where I'm standing this is one big shit show smh.

Sounds like it isn't going to last long anyway, if you feel you don't align and he doesn't take 'your views into account', then leave, why stay? He is still going ahead REGARDLESS of what 'you' think, which says to me you both don't respect each other's wishes, but most importantly he is putting his older children first before you for the benefit of ALL the kids in the house. I would respect him for who he is, accept you cannot change his way of thinking (why would you want to!) and walk away if it kills you so much.

Marriage is about compromise, trust and respect, I don't see any in yours...

This is utterly bonkers. She did not agree to sign over all her money to her husband to do with as he pleases when she got married. She is still an autonomous human in her own right. They have separate finances which is a completely legitimate way of structuring a marriage.

And he won’t go ahead with his wishes regardless- because he needs her money to do it.

judduelong · 26/04/2025 10:33

HelenWheels · 26/04/2025 10:32

but that is your feeling, clouding your judgement

No, it's a judgement based on experience.

HelenWheels · 26/04/2025 10:32

judduelong · 26/04/2025 10:30

Why not? The ones that are there 100% don't have the inconvenience of having separated parents, their things spread over two homes, the upheaval of trying to live in two homes with all the disruption that brings.

Step children/step parent threads ALWAYS validate how shit I felt growing up as a stepchild.

Most people couldn't give a shit and boil everything down to rooms and holidays and amounts given at Christmas

but that is your feeling, clouding your judgement

Flowerpower456 · 26/04/2025 10:32

CanYouTurnItDown · 26/04/2025 10:09

Its the latter part of your post that particularly makes me despair for humanity.

But to be fair, also the bit where you are suggesting that OP going into a relationship with a man with kids, has no part at all in ensuring that those kids needs are met.

I think perhaps there are much greater tragedies in terms of humanity going on in the world to concern yourself with at the moment but you do you.
I say this as someone who’s oldest daughter has a stepfather ( my husband) .. she sadly does not have parental responsibility and as much as I am sure she cares for her step children it is not legally her concern or something she has influence over. It is her husbands responsibility and their mothers that they are housed suitably. He knew when he had further children what he had to do.. it should have been sorted years ago but it is not the OPs job to use her personal and separate money to finance this. She does however have a responsibility to her children.

HelenWheels · 26/04/2025 10:32

i think this thread has too much emotion posts, it is a logical situation as well as financial

Bushmillsbabe · 26/04/2025 10:31

Are either SC in years 10-13? If yes, then they need quiet private space to study until they finish school.

judduelong · 26/04/2025 10:30

HelenWheels · 26/04/2025 10:15

it is not fair to treat the ones that are there 50% the same as the ones there 100%

Why not? The ones that are there 100% don't have the inconvenience of having separated parents, their things spread over two homes, the upheaval of trying to live in two homes with all the disruption that brings.

Step children/step parent threads ALWAYS validate how shit I felt growing up as a stepchild.

Most people couldn't give a shit and boil everything down to rooms and holidays and amounts given at Christmas

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 26/04/2025 10:29

Georgey0 · 26/04/2025 08:46

But this is exactly my point, this is clearly starting to change as they are getting older now. Some weeks it's much less than that and I don't think it's because of the bedrooms, they are just getting older (especially eldest who often cba to move between houses anymore).

You really don’t think sharing a room plays a part? If they have their own room at home?

ok…

Bryonyberries · 26/04/2025 10:28

You could find out how much value the extra bedroom would give your property if you were to sell with 5 beds rather than 4. It might be worth the effort for future investment. Two guests rooms or one office, and guest room.

If it is your forever home then all these children will eventually have families and partners of their own and you’ll be able to host them all at the same time.

I’ve got a different but similar issue in that my eldest two daughters are barely home but my youngest is in the box room and neither of the older ones is willing to swap. Part of the problem is it is so expensive for them to move out so they flit between their partners house and mine.

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