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Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor - you have blood on your hands

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Muffinmam · 26/04/2025 07:14

Am I being unreasonable to say that Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor - the Duke of York and member of the Royal Family has blood on his hands following the tragic suicide of Virginia Giuffre?

Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor has faced zero consequences for his role in Virginia Giuffre‘s sexual abuse and trafficking because he’s rich and his powerful mummy paid off the victim and the British police failed to pursue charges against him. To be clear, while the age of consent in the UK is 17 years old this does not apply to trafficking victims and Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor has never faced criminal charges.

He probably thinks he’s got away with it now she’s gone.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14649791/Virginia-Giuffre-suicide-perth-mansion.html

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Muffinmam · 26/04/2025 07:50

FrippEnos · 26/04/2025 07:46

The legal definition of what a paedophile is may help you with that.

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The term is a colloquialism for any person who sexually exploits a minor for their own (or others) gratification.

The legal definition (as they pertain to specific age ranges) is rarely used.

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HelenWheels · 26/04/2025 07:50

she would never have been known about if there was no RF link
another sad statistic

Superhansrantowindsor · 26/04/2025 07:50

He should have had his day in court.

Spanador · 26/04/2025 07:49

Muffinmam · 26/04/2025 07:24

The age of consent is not aged 16 when a person is trafficked for sex.

I swear, the Firm must be paying for people to spread disinformation.

She was sex trafficked. She was under the age of 18 when she was trafficked so it was rape. He never faced charges.

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You are the one who said in your own op that the age of consent in the UK is 17. The poster was, rightly, pointing out that it’s 16 not 17. Not saying that there is an age of consent for sex trafficking victims

mids2019 · 26/04/2025 07:49

RF supporters are going to suggest the poor woman had mental health challenges for the majority of her life and there cast doubt on the validity of evidence given in court which is a horrible place to be.

I think this shows that obviously money cannot repair trauma tragically and it is now apparent VG was not out for a simple pay out when she took court action. Part of me thinks she always thought her life may end this way so needed to ensure justice to support her family.

FortyElephants · 26/04/2025 07:49

There's a lot of suicide surrounding Jeffrey Epstein isn't there?

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Muffinmam · 26/04/2025 07:48

MidnightPatrol · 26/04/2025 07:41

What evidence do you have that he is a paedophile?

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Are you saying he’s not?

The word pedophile is used as a colloquialism for a person who exploits a minor for their own sexual gratification. Virginia was sex trafficked before the age of 18. She couldn’t consent to what happened to her.

We all watched his lies in his interview.

His own morher paid millions to pay off his victim. That isn’t the actions of a person who believes her son is innocent. If his own mother believed him to be guilty then why do you believe that he is not?

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FortyElephants · 26/04/2025 07:48

Muffinmam · 26/04/2025 07:41

It is disinformation to say Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor committed no crime because the age of consent is 16 when it’s not 16 at all when the person is being trafficked for sex. It was a crime. He never faced charges for that crime.

It takes one person to spread misinformation and then a hundred people with low IQ’s repeat it thinking it’s true because they read it somewhere. That’s how disinformation works.

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YOU wrote that the age of consent is 17 in your OP. That's what the person was correcting, not whether it's legal to have sex with someone aged 17 who has been trafficked.

Ukisgaslit · 26/04/2025 07:47

Muffinmam · 26/04/2025 07:41

It is disinformation to say Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor committed no crime because the age of consent is 16 when it’s not 16 at all when the person is being trafficked for sex. It was a crime. He never faced charges for that crime.

It takes one person to spread misinformation and then a hundred people with low IQ’s repeat it thinking it’s true because they read it somewhere. That’s how disinformation works.

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@Muffinmam

Yes to all of this.
An alarm has gone off somewhere!

Refuting the disinformation on here
( deliberate or just ill informed) is a constant battle

SummerBuild · 26/04/2025 07:47

Muffinmam · 26/04/2025 07:43

It’s very sad for her family that she was broken before she even had a chance to grow up.

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Sadly, broken long before the involvement with Epstein.

CanYouTurnItDown · 26/04/2025 07:46

HelenWheels · 26/04/2025 07:33

she may have been a troubled woman but she did manage to fight back - it is sad, but the op is ott imo,

What difference does that make? Does taking legal action suddenly cure people of their trauma?

(spoiler: no it doesn’t)

FrippEnos · 26/04/2025 07:46

skippy67 · 26/04/2025 07:38

How do you know?

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The legal definition of what a paedophile is may help you with that.

MidnightPatrol · 26/04/2025 07:45

skippy67 · 26/04/2025 07:42

You're the one stating that he isn't. I'm just asking how you know. So what you're saying is, there's no proof/evidence that he is. Got it. Thanks.

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I’m a different poster replying to you FYI, not the original.

As with everyone, if there’s no evidence to suggest that, why would you make that assumption?

This lady was 17 when she met Andrew.

dontcryformeargentina · 26/04/2025 07:45

Kingoftheroad · 26/04/2025 07:22

Poor poor woman. She’s been killed.

100%

HelenWheels · 26/04/2025 07:45

what would the Pope say

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Muffinmam · 26/04/2025 07:43

MidnightPatrol · 26/04/2025 07:38

I’m sorry but you cannot blame him for this sad turn of events.

She obviously had a mental health issues and was exploited in her younger years - and my understanding is she had an order against her stopping her seeing her children due to violence. You can’t pin all of that on Andrew.

Very sad for her and her family.

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It’s very sad for her family that she was broken before she even had a chance to grow up.

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skippy67 · 26/04/2025 07:42

MidnightPatrol · 26/04/2025 07:41

What evidence do you have that he is a paedophile?

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You're the one stating that he isn't. I'm just asking how you know. So what you're saying is, there's no proof/evidence that he is. Got it. Thanks.

Empress13 · 26/04/2025 07:42

its very sad as she was also a mother her poor children. I really hope she wasn’t “pushed” into this

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Muffinmam · 26/04/2025 07:41

SummerBuild · 26/04/2025 07:38

I swear, the Firm must be paying for people to spread disinformation.

What…on Mumsnet?

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It is disinformation to say Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor committed no crime because the age of consent is 16 when it’s not 16 at all when the person is being trafficked for sex. It was a crime. He never faced charges for that crime.

It takes one person to spread misinformation and then a hundred people with low IQ’s repeat it thinking it’s true because they read it somewhere. That’s how disinformation works.

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MidnightPatrol · 26/04/2025 07:41

skippy67 · 26/04/2025 07:38

How do you know?

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What evidence do you have that he is a paedophile?

Campinthe50s · 26/04/2025 07:40

MoreChocPls · 26/04/2025 07:23

I’m sure there’s so much to this story than people know but at the end of the day, this woman had kids and family and the loss of her in tragic circumstance will be more than enough to deal with, let alone all the speculation and comments. Sympathies with her family.

All of this.

HelenWheels · 26/04/2025 07:39

Ukisgaslit · 26/04/2025 07:37

Which Windsor pedophile are you referring to

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your quote

MidnightPatrol · 26/04/2025 07:38

I’m sorry but you cannot blame him for this sad turn of events.

She obviously had a mental health issues and was exploited in her younger years - and my understanding is she had an order against her stopping her seeing her children due to violence. You can’t pin all of that on Andrew.

Very sad for her and her family.

skippy67 · 26/04/2025 07:38

HelenWheels · 26/04/2025 07:32

he is not a paedophile

How do you know?

SummerBuild · 26/04/2025 07:38

Muffinmam · 26/04/2025 07:24

The age of consent is not aged 16 when a person is trafficked for sex.

I swear, the Firm must be paying for people to spread disinformation.

She was sex trafficked. She was under the age of 18 when she was trafficked so it was rape. He never faced charges.

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I swear, the Firm must be paying for people to spread disinformation.

What…on Mumsnet?

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