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Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor - you have blood on your hands

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Muffinmam · 26/04/2025 07:14

Am I being unreasonable to say that Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor - the Duke of York and member of the Royal Family has blood on his hands following the tragic suicide of Virginia Giuffre?

Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor has faced zero consequences for his role in Virginia Giuffre‘s sexual abuse and trafficking because he’s rich and his powerful mummy paid off the victim and the British police failed to pursue charges against him. To be clear, while the age of consent in the UK is 17 years old this does not apply to trafficking victims and Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor has never faced criminal charges.

He probably thinks he’s got away with it now she’s gone.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14649791/Virginia-Giuffre-suicide-perth-mansion.html

OP posts:
PinkyFlamingo · 26/04/2025 08:27

HelenWheels · 26/04/2025 07:16

i dont think he has blood on his hands.
how many years ago was this?

So you think there is time limit to when you are "over" being sexually assaulted? Fair enough

Ukisgaslit · 26/04/2025 08:26

”I can well believe Andrew to be arrogant, entitled, not very bright, a poor judge of character, too easily flattered but I do not believe he would have sex with anyone without consent. No-one in his position, with years of being in the public eye, and of the gutter press, would be that stupid.”

@Meadowfinch

you seem to be implying in your post that Virginia Guiffre was able to consent to sex with Andrew Windsor

Are you not aware that trafficked women and girls are not able to consent ??

Meadowfinch · 26/04/2025 08:26

BlondiePortz · 26/04/2025 08:21

How do you know he did not have good reason to limit access to their children, how do you know everything going on and not what people chose to take from the media?

How do you know the extent of any relationship between PA and VG, if there was any relationship at all.

SipandClean · 26/04/2025 08:26

BlondiePortz · 26/04/2025 08:21

How do you know he did not have good reason to limit access to their children, how do you know everything going on and not what people chose to take from the media?

How do we know anything for sure? How do we know she was abused by Andrew? It’s her word against his. Nothing has ever been proved or disproved.

Middleagedstriker · 26/04/2025 08:25

araiwa · 26/04/2025 07:18

I've never heard him called that before

Age of consent in UK is 17?

Having sex with a trafficked person is basically rape. Or should be if it's not already.

Zonder · 26/04/2025 08:25

Ilovetowander · 26/04/2025 08:23

Prince Andrew was not convicted of anything , he was not charged with anything. The principle of innocent until proven guilty is just as important and relevant for a person in the public eye as for a private person.

Do you think the £12m pay off has anything to do with this?

Soontobe60 · 26/04/2025 08:24

KenAdams · 26/04/2025 07:17

What is the correct number of years you should take to get over being trafficked and raped exactly?

Raped by whom?

savory · 26/04/2025 08:24

Lifestooshort71 · 26/04/2025 07:22

No, it's 16.

In the UK, the age of consent is 16. It’s illegal to buy sexual services from anyone under 18, though — even though 16–17-year-olds can legally consent to sex.

NattyTurtle59 · 26/04/2025 08:23

So of all the things that have happened in her life, including being estranged from her children, it was Prince Andrew who tipped her over the edge??

Do get a grip - maybe try and find something useful to occupy your time with.

Ilovetowander · 26/04/2025 08:23

Prince Andrew was not convicted of anything , he was not charged with anything. The principle of innocent until proven guilty is just as important and relevant for a person in the public eye as for a private person.

Zonder · 26/04/2025 08:22

HelenWheels · 26/04/2025 08:20

where is Ghislaine Maxwell

In prison, why?

BlondiePortz · 26/04/2025 08:21

SipandClean · 26/04/2025 08:16

He may have blood on his hands but what about her parents who completely failed in parenting and protecting her. And her husband who refused her access to her children although I’m sure will be happy to claim her money. There is more to this story than meets the eye.

How do you know he did not have good reason to limit access to their children, how do you know everything going on and not what people chose to take from the media?

HelenWheels · 26/04/2025 08:20

where is Ghislaine Maxwell

meevee · 26/04/2025 08:16

I think the whole world has blood on their hands. Do we actually know how much duty of care tabloid and mainstream media show towards their daily fodder? The people whose victimhood is sold and broadcast daily?

I agree with this

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 26/04/2025 08:16

FrippEnos · 26/04/2025 07:51

The word pedophile in law has a very specific definition which this does not fit.

It has a specific spelling unless you are american

SipandClean · 26/04/2025 08:16

He may have blood on his hands but what about her parents who completely failed in parenting and protecting her. And her husband who refused her access to her children although I’m sure will be happy to claim her money. There is more to this story than meets the eye.

NetZeroZealot · 26/04/2025 08:15

HoskinsChoice · 26/04/2025 08:06

You're essentially glorifying in the death of a woman in order to put the boot into the royal family. That's pretty sick.

This woman was a victim of abuse way, way before she ever met Epstein. She had a horrific childhood which involved abuse, living on the streets and being passed from foster home to foster home. When Epstein and Maxwell got hold of her, she was lured into prostitution and potentially slept with hundreds of men for money and a high end lifestyle of luxury houses, international travel and private jets.

There is zero evidence that she slept with Andrew and of course there is zero evidence that she didn't. We will never know. What we do know is that Andrew was not even close to being the leader or instigator of anything that happened in her childhood or young adult life. He was possibly a very, very tiny cog in an enormous wheel.

Please don't use this woman's tragic life to push your anti-royal views. It's disgusting to use this to suit your agenda. 'That ginger woman' tells us everything we need to know about you. Go and do something nice and get over your prejudices and discrimination.

Every word of this. Poor woman had a terrible life and he was only a tiny part of it whatever happened between them.

Fingernailbiter · 26/04/2025 08:15

Muffinmam · 26/04/2025 07:24

The age of consent is not aged 16 when a person is trafficked for sex.

I swear, the Firm must be paying for people to spread disinformation.

She was sex trafficked. She was under the age of 18 when she was trafficked so it was rape. He never faced charges.

I despise Andrew and am not very keen on any of the royal family, but either you’re a conspiracy theorist or you’re just trying to stir people up.

Toddlerteaplease · 26/04/2025 08:13

He was never tried in court or convicted and she’s been proven to be a liar.

HelenWheels · 26/04/2025 08:13

DrummingMousWife · 26/04/2025 07:59

Any common man would have been jailed - he should be in prison as we speak, not swanning around having a good time and attending Easter celebrations . It’s disgusting that status allows you to avoid the law.

Edited

in prison?

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 26/04/2025 08:13

It's not just him though, is it?
Are you going to name and shame everyone who abused her.
And remember, he was not found guilty in a court of law. He settled out of court, which legally, is not an admission of guilt.
I'm no fan of Andrew, but to say he has blood on his hands is libelous

Ukisgaslit · 26/04/2025 08:12

Meadowfinch · 26/04/2025 08:05

No they aren't the tiny minority, as your aibu shows.

The only evidence I have seen so far is a picture of Andrew posing for a photo with his arm around a 17yo. Ill advised certainly, but not evidence of a crime. And in my world people are innocent until proven guilty.

I can well believe Andrew to be arrogant, entitled, not very bright, a poor judge of character, too easily flattered but I do not believe he would have sex with anyone without consent. No-one in his position, with years of being in the public eye, and of the gutter press, would be that stupid.

That VG felt unable to carry on living is tragic and I feel desperately sad for her family, especially her children. They should be left to grieve in peace, not have this splurged all over social media again. Where is your respect for her OP? For their feelings?

@Meadowfinch

This poll has a few hundred responses - it proves exactly nothing

I don’t know who you mix with but the only time I’ve seen the Andrew defence trotted out is on a certain subsection of mumsnet

Hjsjshsn · 26/04/2025 08:12

HoskinsChoice · 26/04/2025 08:06

You're essentially glorifying in the death of a woman in order to put the boot into the royal family. That's pretty sick.

This woman was a victim of abuse way, way before she ever met Epstein. She had a horrific childhood which involved abuse, living on the streets and being passed from foster home to foster home. When Epstein and Maxwell got hold of her, she was lured into prostitution and potentially slept with hundreds of men for money and a high end lifestyle of luxury houses, international travel and private jets.

There is zero evidence that she slept with Andrew and of course there is zero evidence that she didn't. We will never know. What we do know is that Andrew was not even close to being the leader or instigator of anything that happened in her childhood or young adult life. He was possibly a very, very tiny cog in an enormous wheel.

Please don't use this woman's tragic life to push your anti-royal views. It's disgusting to use this to suit your agenda. 'That ginger woman' tells us everything we need to know about you. Go and do something nice and get over your prejudices and discrimination.

Sorry this is written like she almost had a choice in being trafficked for a high end luxury lifestyle? Lured into prostitution? No she was abused and coerced into sexual abuse and rape.

MidnightPatrol · 26/04/2025 08:11

thepariscrimefiles · 26/04/2025 08:10

He hasn't been charged with an offence because he paid £12 million for her silence. Obviously, that's just what an innocent man would do.

No criminal case was brought against him because there was no evidence to convict him upon.

Anyone can bring a civil case - and, I am sure in that example they probably paid her to stop the continuous bad publicity.

thepariscrimefiles · 26/04/2025 08:10

Lifestooshort71 · 26/04/2025 07:30

Looney tunes out in force on this one. He's a thick entitled sleazeball, agreed, but not charged or convicted of any offence. Don't bother with a slanging match as I won't be reading it.

He hasn't been charged with an offence because he paid £12 million for her silence. Obviously, that's just what an innocent man would do.

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