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Romesh Ranganathan - School Places & Entitlement

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FightingFish · 25/04/2025 17:39

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cewgj1ry9x7o.amp

I’ve seen this story popping up a lot on social media and we are only seeing one side of the story. Schools publish their allocations policy and apparently RR has moved house since his older children were allocated a place. He obviously didn’t consider the implications of moving outside of catchment at that point. There are only so many places, AIBU to wish that he would acknowledge that? I also feel sorry for the kid, if my father was a multi millionaire, I’d rather he shelled out on a place at a private school instead of bleat on about how hard done by he is!

Romesh Ranganathan looks on from the grid during the F1 Grand Prix of Monaco at Circuit de Monaco

Romesh Ranganathan criticises West Sussex council over son's school place - BBC News

He says his son's allocated school is "on the other side of town" to the one his siblings attend.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cewgj1ry9x7o.amp

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CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 26/04/2025 13:37

CurlewKate · 26/04/2025 13:30

Presumably your child wasn’t revising for his exams in the early days of you being prime minister?

Neither was his.

CurlewKate · 26/04/2025 13:30

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 26/04/2025 11:38

With his wife. I am sure children were on the agenda. We bought our house pre-children too, but certainly considered school catchment when buying as we hoped that was something that would happen within this house. Though my children didn’t get the benefit of a multimillionaire’s property to stay in whilst revising.

Presumably your child wasn’t revising for his exams in the early days of you being prime minister?

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 26/04/2025 13:23

OneBadKitty · 26/04/2025 13:19

It's perfectly acceptable to request that a child attends the same school as their siblings, being famous doesn't change that desire. I though most schools prioritised siblings unless it is a selective school.

Only if they haven’t moved meantime.

OneBadKitty · 26/04/2025 13:19

It's perfectly acceptable to request that a child attends the same school as their siblings, being famous doesn't change that desire. I though most schools prioritised siblings unless it is a selective school.

Xenia · 26/04/2025 13:17

Although it is catchment that allows rich parents to choose a school by house price and it is bussing as I think Brighton did at one point of poor children into rich for schooling that perhaps achieves a purer fairness.

Thisisittheapocalypse · 26/04/2025 12:50

Valeriekat · 26/04/2025 08:13

Catchment is first priority and always has been.

As it should be.

Otherwise it's just another way the well off game the system at the expense of local families and communities where their own children are pushed out of their local schools.

EllieQ · 26/04/2025 12:46

TheNightingalesStarling · 25/04/2025 22:04

London is high density.

In rural areas, catchments mean that children living in villages have a chance at a "local" school.

My children's school catchment extends nearly 7 miles in some directions taking in farms and villages, but in another direction the school fields hit the catchment boundary. But there's another school about a mile and a half away in that direction. (Whose catchment covers other villages)

Similar here. I’m in a small city with several outlying villages, and we have catchment areas (as in a defined area on a map) for each school. I assume it’s based on population density as the village schools have large catchment areas covering the village and surrounding rural areas, while the inner city and suburban schools have smaller catchment areas, presumably covering the same number of houses/ estimated population. Seems a logical way to do it.

Priority for admission is usually looked after children/ children in catchment with siblings at the school/ children in catchment/ children out of catchment with siblings at the school/ children out of catchment. Church schools have extra requirements like proof of church attendance.

The council states that over 95% of parents get their first choice primary school, but if you look at the published data (I got a bit obsessed when applying for primary school and really looked into it 🙈), most people applied to their catchment school and got a place there. Would be interesting to know how many people got their first choice if they applied out of catchment, for example.

Heronwatcher · 26/04/2025 12:30

Yes he’s ridiculous.

Most schools changed sibling priority rules for very good reasons- parents get one child in, then move a good distance away. Siblings 2,3,4 etc get into the school
under sibling priory wherever they live and child on the doorstep doesn’t. That’s not fair either. Plus it’s not great for the area to have loads of kids being driven in while local kids are driven out.

Most have maintained sibling priority rules but just within a certain distance (I think it was about 1k) anyway, so I guessing he moved a decent distance from the school. Plus surely if he’d been taking a basic interest in the school he’d have known
anyway…

privatenonamegiven · 26/04/2025 11:47

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 26/04/2025 11:18

That isn’t what PP said. Rather that if you buy your way into a high performing state school then you have no moral basis to condemn those who buy private education. You are both paying for better schools.

Edited

Not everyone does though people often assume this but many actually don’t do that..just saying

privatenonamegiven · 26/04/2025 11:46

CuttedPearPie · 26/04/2025 11:18

By living in a posh area, you're spending big bucks on your housing to buy your kid a place at a top performing state school.

It's the exact same mindset and expense as someone paying fees. Sorry if I hit a nerve

Ha talking sh*t there. You are making numerous assumptions. Some people don’t have loads of cash but bought their properties years and years ago… no nerve hit at all just pointing out your faulty logic and assumptions

RipleyJones · 26/04/2025 11:40

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 26/04/2025 11:18

That isn’t what PP said. Rather that if you buy your way into a high performing state school then you have no moral basis to condemn those who buy private education. You are both paying for better schools.

Edited

Quite. Blair - oratory etc. There are more examples but people can see for themselves online if interested further. It’s a tired discussion now.

The mistake people make is describing schools as state or private. Where both types of schools vary so widely (especially ‘state’ schools), the descriptions are often meaningless.

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 26/04/2025 11:38

CurlewKate · 26/04/2025 11:24

My understanding is that Starmer moved into his current house 20 years ago before he was a politician or had children. It’s an area where many professional people live. And the school his children go to is the catchment school.

With his wife. I am sure children were on the agenda. We bought our house pre-children too, but certainly considered school catchment when buying as we hoped that was something that would happen within this house. Though my children didn’t get the benefit of a multimillionaire’s property to stay in whilst revising.

RipleyJones · 26/04/2025 11:36

Middleagedstriker · 26/04/2025 10:55

I'll take that as a yes 😜

😂 no. It’s a I have no idea why your imagination takes such leaps, but can only think you’re judging others by your own actions.. hey ho! 😂

CurlewKate · 26/04/2025 11:24

My understanding is that Starmer moved into his current house 20 years ago before he was a politician or had children. It’s an area where many professional people live. And the school his children go to is the catchment school.

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 26/04/2025 11:18

privatenonamegiven · 26/04/2025 11:15

This doesn’t make sense… sounds like utter rubbish. Living in a “posh” doesn’t necessarily mean you have enough to money to go private…and having money doesn’t mean you should have to go private…

That isn’t what PP said. Rather that if you buy your way into a high performing state school then you have no moral basis to condemn those who buy private education. You are both paying for better schools.

CuttedPearPie · 26/04/2025 11:18

privatenonamegiven · 26/04/2025 11:15

This doesn’t make sense… sounds like utter rubbish. Living in a “posh” doesn’t necessarily mean you have enough to money to go private…and having money doesn’t mean you should have to go private…

By living in a posh area, you're spending big bucks on your housing to buy your kid a place at a top performing state school.

It's the exact same mindset and expense as someone paying fees. Sorry if I hit a nerve

privatenonamegiven · 26/04/2025 11:15

CuttedPearPie · 26/04/2025 09:52

I don't think its commendable to use the state schools when you live in a posh area.
It's just buying your kids education in a different way

This doesn’t make sense… sounds like utter rubbish. Living in a “posh” doesn’t necessarily mean you have enough to money to go private…and having money doesn’t mean you should have to go private…

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 26/04/2025 10:55

greengrapesofwrath · 26/04/2025 10:47

I think he’s a bit damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t here re state school over private school!

He has a choice - publically uphold the state system and accept whatever allocation he has been given. Or do the best by his children be it private or trying to get into the best state school he can. The problem is when, like many politicians with their children in the highest performing state schools, he tries to do both.

Middleagedstriker · 26/04/2025 10:55

RipleyJones · 26/04/2025 09:54

😂 What?

I'll take that as a yes 😜

greengrapesofwrath · 26/04/2025 10:47

I think he’s a bit damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t here re state school over private school!

RipleyJones · 26/04/2025 09:54

Middleagedstriker · 26/04/2025 09:09

Are you this likeable in real life? It must be tiring being this bitter all the time.

😂 What?

CuttedPearPie · 26/04/2025 09:52

I don't think its commendable to use the state schools when you live in a posh area.
It's just buying your kids education in a different way

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 26/04/2025 09:49

I had 2 drop offs to do before driving to the other side of the city to get to work.

I wonder what the impact would be on carbon emissions if they reintroduced catchments and required every child to go to their catchment school?

TheNightingalesStarling · 26/04/2025 09:16

The anger shouldn't be at getting a school you don't want.. . It should be that there are schools that are failing children.

cramptramp · 26/04/2025 09:13

My children went to different schools that were miles from where we lived. I had 2 drop offs to do before driving to the other side of the city to get to work. I managed it. I’m sure Romesh and his wife will too.

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