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Friend asked dh for 2 year loan

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ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 12:19

Dh’s closest friend broke down to dh and told him he’s in trouble. Owes £25k to a friend who now needs it back. Dh offered to help on the basis it’s payed back in instalments every month for up to 2 years.

I am friends with his wife who is oblivious. Her dh won’t confide in her. She doesn’t know there’s a problem so will carry on as normal. I don’t think she’s a big spender but that’s not the point. They had a week away shortly before her dh and mine had this conversation.

Im angry because if there was a medical situation they couldn’t cover, that would be one thing but they’re obviously living beyond their means. Dh is taking the money out his company so it doesn’t affect me. If my friend knew she’d be mortified.

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Nina1013 · 25/04/2025 17:24

If it makes you feel any better, I (normal professional with normal professional friends who do not have lots of money lying round in businesses) asked my husband (high net worth business partners) if he went to any of them (they’re all friends) and said he was really struggling financially, mentally struggling because of it etc would they loan him £25k to get through it and he said without hesitation they wouldn’t loan, they’d just gift it - because they’d all know that for him (or any of them) to ask, it must be absolutely desperate.

It sounds as though your husband can afford to lose it, ultimately he’s gambling on the strength of his friendship. He can’t morally have the money in the bank and watch his friend lose everything (in his opinion, or he wouldn’t be willing to do it). If his friend defaults, he will go to court and get the money back by way of a charge or forced sale on the house - friendship will be over but at least he can reconcile his conscience about his friend. If his friend repays, he’s proven that the 20 year friendship is as valuable to him as it is to your husband. If he doesn’t lend him the money, the friendship will probably never recover.

I think it’s hard to understand when you don’t have these kinds of sums lying around to play with. People regularly gamble by investing large sums of money on various businesses/opportunities/start ups. The idea horrifies me, but the attitude is generally you win some, you lose some.

I, on the other hand, wouldn’t ask a friend if I could lend a tenner! But I come from a totally different background….

DrDisrespect · 25/04/2025 17:23

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 16:30

Taking our friend’s word, he was never going to pay back the other person in one go. The other friend has said something has come up and he needs the lot back now.

And what happens when something comes up in your life, and you need the lump sum back ASAP?

TropicofCapricorn · 25/04/2025 17:23

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 17:22

The moneys sitting in the company so don’t think losing any interest. Dh is adamant he’ll be payed back in full. Think he’s regretting telling me!

The money is in a bank account somewhere, surely it's earning interest...?

How on earth are you okay with your husband doing this?

Because you can tut and go "well if he mucks us around I'll tell the wife".... Won't make any difference when the friend ficks off with YOUR money.

So...TELL THE WIFE. Now.

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 17:22

TropicofCapricorn · 25/04/2025 17:17

Jesus it gets worse, you're losing out on 2 years of interest on the money?

Are you sure you're happy for your husband to give away £25000?

Because that's how you need to frame it, you and your DH won't see this money again.

The moneys sitting in the company so don’t think losing any interest. Dh is adamant he’ll be payed back in full. Think he’s regretting telling me!

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Treesarenotforeating · 25/04/2025 17:21

He can’t pay his other friend back he won’t pay you back
don’t do it

TropicofCapricorn · 25/04/2025 17:20

I would tell the wife.

Id also be telling my husband if he gives this man our money, against my wishes, I'd be looking at divorce.

TropicofCapricorn · 25/04/2025 17:19

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 16:59

I’ve just spoken to dh. He’s having a proper loan agreement drawn up and there will be a monthly standing order. It is a 12 month loan. Friend has told dh he knows he has been living beyond his means and will rein it in.

I also told dh, on advice from here, that I’m not an idiot and there will be tax implications. He put his accountant on the phone and asked him the question, to which the answer was that there will be no tax implication to the company making a loan.

Oh so now it's a 1 year loan?

How is this man going to find £2000 a month if he's spending beyond his means and the wife not finding out.... ?

Ellie56 · 25/04/2025 17:19

So now it's a 12 month loan with repayments of £2000 a month?

Yeah right. This has disaster written all over it.

Quite frankly I would be going ape-shit. What if you need that money for something urgent yourselves? None of us know what's round the corner. As PP say you won't get that money back.

And if DH won't listen to you, his wife, and puts his so-called friend above you, I'd be telling him that you will be telling your friend as she has a right to know, and you are going to put her first just as he is putting his friend first.

TropicofCapricorn · 25/04/2025 17:18

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 17:16

😂

Honestly, why wait? Why are you happy to give away £25000?

Are you incredibly wealthy and won't miss it?

TropicofCapricorn · 25/04/2025 17:17

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 17:03

There will be no interest on the loan.

Jesus it gets worse, you're losing out on 2 years of interest on the money?

Are you sure you're happy for your husband to give away £25000?

Because that's how you need to frame it, you and your DH won't see this money again.

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 17:16

TropicofCapricorn · 25/04/2025 17:15

Just tell her noooooww.

😂

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TropicofCapricorn · 25/04/2025 17:15

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 17:11

None of her friends work and sounds like he doesn’t want to burst her bubble. She’s def not my best friend but I’ve known her for years. Dh recently bought me a lovely car and she was so genuinely happy and excited (more than I was), she’s a nice girl.

i told dh again it’s so wrong he doesn’t confide in his wife. I’ll be reluctantly telling her if he fucks around with the repayment.

Just tell her noooooww.

Idontknowhatnametochoose · 25/04/2025 17:12

Never lend money unless you're prepared not to get it back.

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 17:11

dddilemma · 25/04/2025 17:06

Surely the solution is his wife gets a job

None of her friends work and sounds like he doesn’t want to burst her bubble. She’s def not my best friend but I’ve known her for years. Dh recently bought me a lovely car and she was so genuinely happy and excited (more than I was), she’s a nice girl.

i told dh again it’s so wrong he doesn’t confide in his wife. I’ll be reluctantly telling her if he fucks around with the repayment.

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itsgettingweird · 25/04/2025 17:10

If he can’t afford to pay friend back how can he afford to pay DH back?

25k over 2 years is a grand a month. That’s a lot of cash to have spare and if he had that spare what he £25k in debt?

Justchillinhere · 25/04/2025 17:09

Life would just be so simple and everything should carry on as normal if he just says NO! There probably isn’t even a friend waiting for the money. Op I hope there isn’t a similar thread in 3 months time saying “gave friend 25K, now we never see him, sorry but it’s all wrong

diddl · 25/04/2025 17:08

Friend has told dh he knows he has been living beyond his means and will rein it in.

So he needs to stop living beyond his means plus find 2k a month?

I wonder what his earnings & outgoings are?

Nina1013 · 25/04/2025 17:07

DoYouReally · 25/04/2025 17:02

There's no tax implications! 😂

You can't just take money out of a company with no tax implications!!! If you could no one would every pay salaries or dividends. They would "loan" everything instead .

I'm not n the UK do maybe there's one sort of tax utopia that I'm not aware of but I would be extremely shocked.

Edited

It’s not the director or shareholder taking the money out. It’s a genuine loan.

A director actually can take a loan out of the company at any point, but if it isn’t repaid at year end, interest must be added.

That is a simplistic version and there can be nuances but in a nutshell.

CautiousLurker01 · 25/04/2025 17:07

DoYouReally · 25/04/2025 17:02

There's no tax implications! 😂

You can't just take money out of a company with no tax implications!!! If you could no one would every pay salaries or dividends. They would "loan" everything instead .

I'm not n the UK do maybe there's one sort of tax utopia that I'm not aware of but I would be extremely shocked.

Edited

Agree - if it is company money, there will absolutely be tax implications. At the very least, if it is regarded as drawings by OPs DH he has to pay PAYE on it. And frankly, that’s the best option because OP’s DH will have to repay it himself from personal funds if it is not repaid by the BF.

The attached describes a directors loan, which is what this is, I think? The director (OPs DH) is effectively taking a personal loan from the company and then using it to give to his friend.

https://www.1stformations.co.uk/blog/borrow-money-from-limited-company/

Can I borrow money from my limited company?

Everything you need to know about directors’ loans, including how to record money that you borrow from your company and the tax implications.

https://www.1stformationsblog.co.uk/borrow-money-from-limited-company/

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 17:06

DoYouReally · 25/04/2025 17:02

There's no tax implications! 😂

You can't just take money out of a company with no tax implications!!! If you could no one would every pay salaries or dividends. They would "loan" everything instead .

I'm not n the UK do maybe there's one sort of tax utopia that I'm not aware of but I would be extremely shocked.

Edited

You’re mistaken then. This is a company with an excellent accountant and I’ve just heard him confirm this is the case. Maybe a loophole I’ve no idea but no tax implication.

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dddilemma · 25/04/2025 17:06

Surely the solution is his wife gets a job

DoYouReally · 25/04/2025 17:05

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 17:03

There will be no interest on the loan.

There will be no capital paid either!

ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 17:05

RealEagle · 25/04/2025 17:02

I was thinking the same😂

The wife doesn’t work so no!

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ParsnipPuree · 25/04/2025 17:03

There will be no interest on the loan.

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Pedallleur · 25/04/2025 17:03

Ssshhh! It's all a secret. No one must know. It's a scam. We all know this. The person needs to confront his debts/debtors/addiction.

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