To dare to think that the Cult of Dog has gone too far?

Oh goody, yet another dog hating thread! It’s just what we need!

Humans are in charge of the human world and dogs are a creation of the human world. They are not an endangered species that needs saving, they only exist at our behest.

Our friends own a cafe. Business has increased since allowing dogs.

We’ve just got a rescue puppy after losing our old dog last Summer. He was incredibly well behaved and we hope to train our new boy the same way.

Right now it’s a beautiful day and I’d love to be taking him for a walk where we’d see regular dog walkers who I know from before and this would help with his socialisation. We live backing onto an AONB so it’s ideal, but it’s still school holidays here and there are too many entitled dog owners walking there with poorly trained dogs, off lead and which they have little control over, and their children dropping litter. You can always tell when it’s a school holiday by the state of the paths, they’re littered with crisp packets and dog mess.

Yes but you are assuming that 'humans' are in charge and own the world.

Who said. I mean yes by force we overrule animals because we have a higher IQ. We are not 'better' than them.

All I'm saying is look at the mess the world is in with us 'superior' humans. Wars, mass consumerism, vunerable children being neglected, natural resources being stripped, everyone looking out for themselves.

I mean dinosaurs used to rule the earth because they were bigger than all the other animals. Did that make them 'better'

Dictators rule their people and dictate to them what they should and shouldn't do - does that make them better than their 'subjects' or just more evil.

The longer I live (and I'm pretty old now) the less regard I have for a huge percentage of humans and appreciate much more the simple and kind, straight forward nature of animals.

It's a pity you aren't mature enough to cope with an opinion that differs from yours.

Those of us who would prefer to be free of the dog nuisance need to start voting with our feet.
If a shop or a cafe has dogs in it you walk out and you tell the staff that you won't be buying anything because you don't want to have to put up with the dogs on the premises.

And don't even start me on dog ice cream, dog afternoon teas and dog birthday parties! We live in a world where people are starving, children are starving, and we're feeding our dogs puddings. What a criminal waste of resources.

Fully agree

A cafe near me has two signs in the window: 'we are dog friendly!!! :)' and 'Well behaved children welcome.'
I think it's such a shit attitude and I never go there now.

I couldn't agree more, we were in our local pub at the weekend and there were so many bloody dogs! Actually having to step over some going to the bar, yapping, slobbering, people putting them on the very nice velvet seats (thankfully the staff do always ask people to put them on the floor).

I said to my OH I can't bloody wait for all the covid dogs to die out

Then the rest of us who have seen these situations are imagining them? People are able to have different experiences to you and for them to be true and valid!

Both of my DC when they were under 2yo were approached by "friendly" dogs who came right up to their faces. A massive English bulldog and a huge sheepdog. They are both now scared of dogs, despite me having grown up with German shepherds and working in dog kennels. My DD actually had a bischon frise jump up on her try to take her soft toy away from where while we were on a walk. She was 18 MONTHS OLD. When I asked the owner to do something I was told "go f* yourself".

I've lost track of the amount of muddy paws and slobber on me, where people just smile ane laugh. People have started bringing their dogs INSIDE the school playground at drop off/pick up. For a mother of DC scared of dogs, I shouldn't have to be negotiating that! Dogs fighting in cafes all the time. Dog poo everywhere. Everytime I go to John Lewis I see at least 1 dog. I don't get it why anyone needs to take their dog to JL! It is a novelty nowadays to see a dog which can sit and heel. I doubt most dog owners now know what heel even means.

I had a client with a dog a few weeks ago, poorly trained little terrier with an assistance dog jacket. I said oh I didn’t realise he was an assistance dog, and he replied , he isn’t but this way I can take him in Greggs to buy my sausage roll !

Maybe if dog free places were marketed as "allergy friendly, so regretfully, we cannot accept assistance dogs either" then it shouldn't cause an issue. There are loads of dog friendly places these days.

I think dogs are wonderful, but they aren't people

This ^^

There are some wonderful and sensible dog owners on this thread. If there were more of you in this world then dog ownership wouldn't be the problem it has become.

its very hard on people with dog allergies. Stayed in an Airbnb once where there had been dogs and suffered badly!

This might come as a novel idea to you, but maybe walk the poor thing?

So you can get out more and the dog won’t suffer.

My Dad is 70 and has somehow been caught up in this idea despite previously being a very typical older generation pragmatic Northerner.

He wasn't like this with all the previous dogs he's owned but he seems to think his current dog is so special that normal expectations just don't apply.

He doesn't go to pubs or bars and leaves the dog at home for an hour once a week when he does his food shopping.

But the rest of the time he wants to take the dog with him and if a business says no dogs, that's a sign to my Dad that they're not worthy of his custom.

He's happy with a no-dog policy but doesn't think it should apply to his dog as his dog is different.

And if they say fine, bring the dog but the dog doesn't get the positive attention my Dad thinks he should have, my Dad immediately thinks there's something 'off' about that person so doesn't like or trust them.

It is a very, very cute and extremely well-behaved dog I'll admit. And he was the dog he had with my now dead Step-Mum so I can understand the extreme attachment but even before Step-Mum died, he thought this dog had some kind of special abilities.

I was at a lunchtime cafe a few weeks ago where a group at the next table allowed their dog to sit up on a chair at their table. Absolutely revolting. I pity the person who had to use that chair afterwards.

It used to be the case that dogs weren't allowed in eating areas, which made perfect sense to me. When did that change? And if we must have them in places where food is being served - at least keep them on the floor, and at your table.

Dogs in prams 🤣 To think they are descendents of wolves. Bet they didn't see that coming when they came to the camp fire and started to accept scraps.

All I'll say is the quietest cafes in any town or village are the ones that don't allow dogs.

For the record, I don't mind either way and agree some places can be overrun with dogs. I've just seen first hand the margin benefits of making your business dog friendly

My dog was allowed to visit me when I was an inpatient on a psych ward. It really helped me. She was in a private room, not wandering about everywhere. A few other patients even asked to come in and see her too.
My local trust also has a Pet as Therapy dog who goes on the ward a lot too. There is a picture of her on the wall with all the pictures of members of staff.

I don't believe your little stories in your OP either.

My exH's new girlfriend is a doggo nutter. He never used to like dogs and now he's forced to go everywhere with a pair of spaniels. I laugh.