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Charity starts at home

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Berrytea · 24/04/2025 21:53

I live in a seaside town with less than 10k people living in it there are nice parts but there are also parts full of poverty, antisocial behaviour and crime. The council keeps cutting back services and adding charges, and the local services are run by unpaid volunteers and not a charity. The council can’t afford to repair the school and the town is noticeably going downhill.
a lady on the local Facebook page was collecting donations and crafts, and other things for Ukraine and I asked her, and I tried to word it kindly, that I know about the war and the problems over there but there are problems here and there are people just a few streets away from her that would love those things themselves and she responded “this world is so divided, have a good day”.
Am I unreasonable to think that collecting donations for Ukraine is wrong when our own town is going downhill?

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saltinesandcoffeecups · 24/04/2025 23:58

Berrytea · 24/04/2025 23:54

I’m surprised that you don’t care that the local services are underfunded or non existent. I suppose it’s lucky that you don’t need them. Money in the community should be invested in the community. And no comment here has managed to change my mind.

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So start your own donation campaign! I’m sure there are a lot of like minded people who agree with you. Problem solved!

Berrytea · 24/04/2025 23:54

I’m surprised that you don’t care that the local services are underfunded or non existent. I suppose it’s lucky that you don’t need them. Money in the community should be invested in the community. And no comment here has managed to change my mind.

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BassesAreBest · 24/04/2025 23:52

I don’t understand why you felt the need to comment in the first place. If you don’t want to donate, don’t. Not up to you to dictate what other people fundraise for.

ForFunGoose · 24/04/2025 23:48

Organise something yourself- lazy!!

Tbrh · 24/04/2025 23:38

Berrytea · 24/04/2025 23:15

There have been a lot of assumptions and accusations made about me here. I am too autistic to understand the way people work socially a lot of the time and this is one of those situations.
I had a feeling there was something wrong about what I’d said based on her reaction.
My opinion is still that the money and donations are better invested into the community that we live in, we can’t help everyone else in the world and their problems.

How convenient. Perhaps next time it would be better to keep your opinions to yourself. And of course, put your money where your mouth is and do a collection of your own

saltinesandcoffeecups · 24/04/2025 23:37

Yes OP, you did say something wrong. She wasn’t an asking the question “What she should be collecting donations for” she was asking for donations to a cause she had already picked.

If she was asking for ideas for a cause your comment would have been appropriate.

Do you see the difference?

Also you are being unreasonable to think any FB interaction will be in any way productive.

ETA; that’s great that you have an opinion. There is a saying where I’m from “Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one” meaning just because you have an opinion about something yours isn’t special or correct. So keep it covered. It’s crude but accurate.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 24/04/2025 23:35

Berrytea · 24/04/2025 23:15

There have been a lot of assumptions and accusations made about me here. I am too autistic to understand the way people work socially a lot of the time and this is one of those situations.
I had a feeling there was something wrong about what I’d said based on her reaction.
My opinion is still that the money and donations are better invested into the community that we live in, we can’t help everyone else in the world and their problems.

Your opinion is just that, yours. So don’t donate to her cause. I’m sure you can understand the difference between having an underfunded council, and being at actual war though. It’s fine not to donate to a cause you don’t believe it, it’s not fine to put others down and tell them what to do, particularly when you don’t even no them.

ACynicalDad · 24/04/2025 23:34

You go fundraise for your town, she can fundraise for what she likes, if you don't want to give then scroll on, no need to share your views.

TheWiseGoose · 24/04/2025 23:33

Berrytea · 24/04/2025 23:15

There have been a lot of assumptions and accusations made about me here. I am too autistic to understand the way people work socially a lot of the time and this is one of those situations.
I had a feeling there was something wrong about what I’d said based on her reaction.
My opinion is still that the money and donations are better invested into the community that we live in, we can’t help everyone else in the world and their problems.

Why? I don't know the people anyway and I live in an area with lots of rude, racist chavs. I'd rather donate to children in need in my country of origin where there is no benefit to support them at all.

EntropyCentral · 24/04/2025 23:30

I volunteer at a local food bank, for local people. I also help organise fundraisers for our local Mencap because my disabled daughter benefits from it and I want to give something back. On top of that I help fundraise for aid to the people of Ukraine. I can do all this because I'm retired but not useless.

Perhaps this lady already supports her local community in some way. I wouldn't rule that out. When all's said and done, as difficult times are in this country, we don't have to live with the terror of war. Charity may begin at home but it shouldn't end there.

HoskinsChoice · 24/04/2025 23:29

Berrytea · 24/04/2025 23:15

There have been a lot of assumptions and accusations made about me here. I am too autistic to understand the way people work socially a lot of the time and this is one of those situations.
I had a feeling there was something wrong about what I’d said based on her reaction.
My opinion is still that the money and donations are better invested into the community that we live in, we can’t help everyone else in the world and their problems.

Are the people in your local community being shelled with bombs? Are they going through periods without electricity and water? Are families being ripped apart as sons/husbands/fathers are being forced to go to war (and possibly not coming back!)? Is your local community constantly living in fear, not knowing when the Russians will take over? Is your local community at risk of being annexed to a country run by a sadistic dictator? Need I go on? If none of things apply to your seaside resort, I'd say you are being wildly unreasonable.

TempestTost · 24/04/2025 23:28

Berrytea · 24/04/2025 23:15

There have been a lot of assumptions and accusations made about me here. I am too autistic to understand the way people work socially a lot of the time and this is one of those situations.
I had a feeling there was something wrong about what I’d said based on her reaction.
My opinion is still that the money and donations are better invested into the community that we live in, we can’t help everyone else in the world and their problems.

So, you are not wrong that sometimes people pay more attention to good causes that are in the news a lot. Sometimes because they are just more aware of them or sometimes because they seem more glamorous. Sometimes the person may have a connection to the cause you don't know about.

People can be very blind to great need close by.

Also - often the kind of collecting she is doing isn't really useful to the people she is trying to help. It can be more effective to try and address the needs in your own community where you can see what is needed and know the people.

However: generally, unless you are in a position to know about this person well, even if you think their work isn't the most useful, it's best to just leave her to it. She is acting, as far as you can see, from a desire to to good. you could instead be inspired to do some community work of your own.

If there was some more serious reason you felt you needed to point out a problem with the project, I'd do it privatly, not openly on a public page.

XenoBitch · 24/04/2025 23:20

Berrytea · 24/04/2025 23:15

There have been a lot of assumptions and accusations made about me here. I am too autistic to understand the way people work socially a lot of the time and this is one of those situations.
I had a feeling there was something wrong about what I’d said based on her reaction.
My opinion is still that the money and donations are better invested into the community that we live in, we can’t help everyone else in the world and their problems.

I know someone who lost their much loved greyhound, and set up a fundraiser in his memory. They raised over $250k (Australian dollars). They got shit for not giving it to homeless etc.
You are free to set up your own charity events and fundraisers for things that mean a lot to you. Criticising people who are raising money for other causes is not got to help you one jot.

McSpoot · 24/04/2025 23:17

Berrytea · 24/04/2025 23:15

There have been a lot of assumptions and accusations made about me here. I am too autistic to understand the way people work socially a lot of the time and this is one of those situations.
I had a feeling there was something wrong about what I’d said based on her reaction.
My opinion is still that the money and donations are better invested into the community that we live in, we can’t help everyone else in the world and their problems.

Then start a collection. Or do something. So far, all you’ve done is criticize someone doing something to help people.

Berrytea · 24/04/2025 23:15

There have been a lot of assumptions and accusations made about me here. I am too autistic to understand the way people work socially a lot of the time and this is one of those situations.
I had a feeling there was something wrong about what I’d said based on her reaction.
My opinion is still that the money and donations are better invested into the community that we live in, we can’t help everyone else in the world and their problems.

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Maitri108 · 24/04/2025 22:47

IveGotAnUnusuallyLargePelvisISwear · 24/04/2025 22:29

Btw in my experience the type of people who say “charity begins at home” are also the type of people who wouldn’t give the poor and vulnerable of said home the steam off their own piss.

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This is the thing. Red faced ranters going on about immigrants and foreign aid. Yet they're not handing out blankets or soup or campaigning for better services. They are voting for parties that consistently put people on the streets though.

Serpentstooth · 24/04/2025 22:33

Yes. YABVVVU. You should be ashamed of yourself but I expect you're proud of your views? Are you near Clacton?

Bushmillsbabe · 24/04/2025 22:32

Yes, we do definitely have challenges here, but we aren't living our lives wondering if our house is going to be bombed or our children are going to be killed by Putin's army.
We as a country can do something proactive about the challenges we face in our communities. They cannot stop the invasion of their country.
If there is a local cause you are passionate about, I kindly suggest you look at fundraising for that yourself.

Barrenfieldoffucks · 24/04/2025 22:29

How much fundraising and volunteering do you do? I've been involved with food banks and pantries for years, and the loudest, most 'virtuous' keyboard warriors are always those who are are far too busy to actually do anything themselves.

IveGotAnUnusuallyLargePelvisISwear · 24/04/2025 22:29

Btw in my experience the type of people who say “charity begins at home” are also the type of people who wouldn’t give the poor and vulnerable of said home the steam off their own piss.

PlanetOtter · 24/04/2025 22:29

Oh dear. You miserable busybody.

IveGotAnUnusuallyLargePelvisISwear · 24/04/2025 22:27

Yes you are being unreasonable to complain however “kindly” 🙄at this lady doing something charitable. If charity does indeed start at home get off your arse and start something yourself.

HeddaGarbled · 24/04/2025 22:26

I think it was horrible of you to criticise someone trying to do a good thing. Nothing to stop you doing a good thing, but oh no, that’s too much trouble, why not just be mean to someone who’s a better person than you are?

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 24/04/2025 22:26

The people who do nothing really need to stop criticizing those actually doing things and making a difference.

why can’t you raise money for your area since you feel strongly about it?

brunettemic · 24/04/2025 22:24

What is it that you’re currently doing to resolve these local issues that donating to or helping Ukraine would affect