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£66 for an after school club?

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EmmaJane2025 · 24/04/2025 18:59

Just had some details from school about this term’s after school clubs. Two of them are £40 and the other, £66!
For context, this is a state school with a mix of a few students from comfortably-off families, many average & some Pupil Premium students. Obviously if this was an Independent school then this wouldn’t even cross my mind to be an issue but a state school? Do state schools usually charge for after school clubs? This one hasn’t done before; I’ve never been required to pay for the ones my DC attended previously.

Perhaps I’m missing a factor in it all, perhaps I’m out of date? It just seems unfair that students from lower income families will likely miss out on something I truly believe all kids should have the opportunity to attend - extra curricular activities.
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Gobacktosleep · 03/05/2025 00:23

£11 per extra curricular activity sounds about right. My son’s swimming lessons are £13 a time (30 mins) Gynastics is about £50 odd a month which works out similar. We do have one ‘after school’ activity at the school which is football, and that’s £45 per half term so a little cheaper which we consider a bargain (run by external team) So there is some variation but this doesn’t sound out of the realms of normal. We’re in Surrey if relevant.

ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 26/04/2025 11:33

GRex · 24/04/2025 20:36

I'm baffled why people think other adults should look after their child, pay insurance for their child, pay for equipment for their child, and manage the admin for that great privilege. Pupil premium can sponsor payment for some clubs, but otherwise it obviously should be paid for.

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I agree. The OP sounds ridiculously entitled.

whippy1981 · 26/04/2025 11:29

StripyHorse · 26/04/2025 09:52

I stand corrected.

That's good - certainly when I was a class teacher we were expected to run clubs, but were not paid for the extra hours.

I don't think many are told as no one I know of knew about it when I told them. It was only this academic year I found out and it was shared as being a new thing.

StripyHorse · 26/04/2025 09:52

whippy1981 · 25/04/2025 20:16

Both can be paid. Teachers certainly can claim for clubs. LEA schools are included in this. It is documented by the gov.

I stand corrected.

That's good - certainly when I was a class teacher we were expected to run clubs, but were not paid for the extra hours.

MumTeacherofMany · 26/04/2025 09:22

That's a great price OP!

Devonmaid1844 · 25/04/2025 22:25

EmmaJane2025 · 24/04/2025 19:35

Thank you. I think a lot of posters either live in London/down south where everything is 3 x the value, or have no earthly idea about how many children live in poverty/are simply disadvantaged. I also wonder if some don’t realise what Pupil Premium is?

We're in Bradford... Definitely not a super expensive area! But still have to pay for all school clubs!

Todayupstairs · 25/04/2025 22:09

As a headteacher we had two different offers.

  1. The free/low cost after school club, offered by staff, often something the staff member enjoyed, a hobby they wanted to share. No pressure at all on staff to provide Short session, time limited ( 6 week blocks). Flexible approach. Not childcare. Minimum if any contribution.
  2. After-school, wrap around care. End of school until 18.00. Everyday, reliable, consistent. Range of activities during.

Parents always advised NOT to rely on option 1 for childcare around work. Option 1 might not run, due to staff absence, might not be repeated after the first 6 week offer, might be full or might be offered to a different group of children each time it ran.

whippy1981 · 25/04/2025 22:06

lifeonthelane · 25/04/2025 20:41

Depends on how they they're run. Ones led by school staff are usually much cheaper - ours charges £1 per week (teachers aren't paid overtime to run them - it' voluntary so no staff payment needed). However, external specialist ones are much more. I've just paid £75 for a term's worth of cookery club sessions., led by a chef.

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Teachers can claim for clubs now the gov has said.

lifeonthelane · 25/04/2025 20:41

Depends on how they they're run. Ones led by school staff are usually much cheaper - ours charges £1 per week (teachers aren't paid overtime to run them - it' voluntary so no staff payment needed). However, external specialist ones are much more. I've just paid £75 for a term's worth of cookery club sessions., led by a chef.

Hdjdb42 · 25/04/2025 20:28

That kind of price is normal around here. It's an activity that's run by a company inside the school, that's why it costs more.

whippy1981 · 25/04/2025 20:16

StripyHorse · 25/04/2025 19:12

If the club is being run by TAs they will need to be paid.
If there is equipment to buy - the school may now need to charge (if budgets were healthier in the past they may have absorbed these costs)
If outside agencies are involved they will be paid.

If teachers run the club- they won't be paid. At least they might be in academies who have more freedom with pay, but not in LEA run schools. Teachers are just expected to give up their time, which makes it even more frustrating when parents moan.

Both can be paid. Teachers certainly can claim for clubs. LEA schools are included in this. It is documented by the gov.

KarmaKameelion · 25/04/2025 19:18

EmmaJane2025 · 24/04/2025 19:48

I haven’t a single clue where my DC’s Pupil Premium goes as the school doesn’t give free school meals in return for it (apparently it no longer applies to meals?) and zero help with uniform so 🤷🏻‍♀️

The school will have a published pupil premium policy on their website. You can also request a copy.

StripyHorse · 25/04/2025 19:12

If the club is being run by TAs they will need to be paid.
If there is equipment to buy - the school may now need to charge (if budgets were healthier in the past they may have absorbed these costs)
If outside agencies are involved they will be paid.

If teachers run the club- they won't be paid. At least they might be in academies who have more freedom with pay, but not in LEA run schools. Teachers are just expected to give up their time, which makes it even more frustrating when parents moan.

GiveDogBone · 25/04/2025 18:53

Reasonable and good value. Who do you think should pay for them?

laraitopbanana · 25/04/2025 18:41

EmmaJane2025 · 24/04/2025 19:20

Do you think? £66 For 40 mins of ‘daring to believe’ x 6?

£11 is about the hourly rate…

PurpleThistle7 · 25/04/2025 06:52

JLou08 · 24/04/2025 23:00

Are teachers contracted hours the same as school hours? I lived opposite a school that finished at 3.15 but teachers didn't come out until around 5. TAs would leave at the end of the school day but not the teachers.

My friend is a teacher and that’s when she cleans up the classroom, does marking, sets the classroom up for the next day, has meetings with parents or other staff, that sort of thing. My daughter’s planning meetings were usually just after school for example. Maybe schools can timetable a rota of teachers to cover extra curriculars as well?

Fingernailbiter · 24/04/2025 23:02

If the club is run by school staff it’s unusual for there to be a charge (except perhaps for things like ingredients for a cooking club).

The school has to publish on their website details of how they spend pupil premium money.

JLou08 · 24/04/2025 23:00

PurpleThistle7 · 24/04/2025 22:28

I scanned through the responses here but am
mostly surprised to see that teachers are working outside their contracted hours to just - run clubs for a random group of kids? For free? I had absolutely assumed this would be paid work.

there is nothing after hours for free at the primary school but there are a few things in school hours (lunchtime clubs) that I now understand teachers would be giving up their own lunch break to do. That doesn’t feel right at all and I’m going to ask about it at the next pta meeting.

the high school has loads of lunch clubs and several after school clubs - they have a school musical this year so loads around that and a bunch of other stuff. Again, assumed they were being paid for their time!

there are also several paid after school classes in the building - my kids have done dance and football and coding club. All paid and dance and coding are I think £12-15/hour (it’s hard to work out as they have different terms and random weeks off and such). Football is cheaper as it’s a council thing and we are in a deprived area so get some funding for inclusion. We use the after school club for primary school as well but I see that’s not what this is about.

Are teachers contracted hours the same as school hours? I lived opposite a school that finished at 3.15 but teachers didn't come out until around 5. TAs would leave at the end of the school day but not the teachers.

WonderingWanda · 24/04/2025 22:57

That does seem expensive for a school run club, especially as I assume it's the one below which is free to download. I would assume that the school is being hard hit by budget issues in particular rising unfunded wage bills and they have decided to start charging for their afterschool clubs.

https://www.daretobelieve.ie/about/

About – Dare To Believe

https://www.daretobelieve.ie/about/

Blojappre · 24/04/2025 22:55

Sorry that last post was in response to @Merryoldgoat

Blojappre · 24/04/2025 22:55

Oh well no, admittedly this is a weekly charge! But the teachers are working an extra hour (on top of the hours of marking that is to follow) so I think pretty reasonable to expect to pay! The teachers who don’t run clubs don’t have that extra hour of childcare…. I think at least £8-10 would be reasonable per week)….

Newusername3kidss · 24/04/2025 22:51

Our afterschools clubs have always been paid for by parents - I don’t know any schools that do them for free! I’m up north as well as saw you comment on London schools. The clubs ran by teachers like Lego club is cheaper than ones like football which is an external provider . And it is childcare. They are looking after your child and you pick them up 45 mins / an hour later than usual time which is massively helpful for working parents. £5-7 per session is average price.

whippy1981 · 24/04/2025 22:40

FoodieToo · 24/04/2025 22:04

Teacher in Ireland here . Do teachers in the UK really have to run after- school sessions free of charge ??
As well as working so hard ?
In my school many of the teachers run activities but they are all payable .

Nope they do not, they can claim for extra time. It is not well known. I only found out last year but yes they can and should be claiming.

whippy1981 · 24/04/2025 22:39

Fly1ngG1raffe · 24/04/2025 19:32

I think OP is having a hard time with PPs. £11 per session is steep for a non-specialist class.
what does daring to believe involve?

at our school groups like this, run by teachers, are either free or nominal amount (about £25 for a whole term).

Teachers should be paid extra for any after school clubs.

PurpleThistle7 · 24/04/2025 22:28

I scanned through the responses here but am
mostly surprised to see that teachers are working outside their contracted hours to just - run clubs for a random group of kids? For free? I had absolutely assumed this would be paid work.

there is nothing after hours for free at the primary school but there are a few things in school hours (lunchtime clubs) that I now understand teachers would be giving up their own lunch break to do. That doesn’t feel right at all and I’m going to ask about it at the next pta meeting.

the high school has loads of lunch clubs and several after school clubs - they have a school musical this year so loads around that and a bunch of other stuff. Again, assumed they were being paid for their time!

there are also several paid after school classes in the building - my kids have done dance and football and coding club. All paid and dance and coding are I think £12-15/hour (it’s hard to work out as they have different terms and random weeks off and such). Football is cheaper as it’s a council thing and we are in a deprived area so get some funding for inclusion. We use the after school club for primary school as well but I see that’s not what this is about.

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