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Child's friend parent on sexual offender register

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springisspringing1 · 24/04/2025 13:57

I live in a smallish town - only one primary school and only one class per year. My DC is in reception. One of the children's fathers was found guilty of looking at child sex photographs and online grooming of a young teen girl. He is on the sexual offender register. The mother has retained a close relationship with the father (they may still be together - I don't know her well enough). We have kids' birthday parties all the time and eg when she hosts one, the father is likely to be there. I don't want my children near this man. I just don't. I think she's keen for him to be reintegrated into the (quite small) community. AIBU is, I suppose, to make it clear I don't want him to bring their child to my child's party? (I will just make an excuse for their party). Also - is this unfair on my child's friend (who is obviously only 4 too). This is not something that is going to go away -- and want to work out how to manage it now. Please be kind - I absolutely know it is not the mother or the child's fault.

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springisspringing1 · 24/04/2025 14:14

Gymmum82 · 24/04/2025 14:10

I can’t honestly imagine a time where he would be able to chat to your child at a party. Firstly at parties the kids are all off playing. Secondly you will be there and thirdly I don’t think I’ve ever seen any parents chat to children who aren’t there own at parties, surely you would be able to interject if you did see him trying to engage in conversation and tell him not to talk to your child. Or redirect your child to speak to you and send them off to join in. He’s not going to be able to start grooming your child at a 2 hour party while you are there watching his every move is he really? Whilst I wouldn’t want him near my kid you’re being hysterical because he won’t be able to be near your kid

I don't know if it's unusual, but quite a few of the dads are pretty hands on and it's nice! They'll be playing football (crap football obvs because the kids are four) in the garden etc. It's def v normal for the fathers to interact with other people's kids round here, and I like it (most of the time!). And obvs I'm always present and keeping an eye on things. But as I said elsewhere, it's tricky to police.

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frecklejuice · 24/04/2025 14:13

Is he actually allowed at the school and to be around children that aren’t his? My child’s friends father was put onto the register last year and the conditions of this are that he isn’t allowed onto school grounds (can park in the car near the school), he isn’t allowed at any of his kids sports venues and he isn’t allowed any contact with females under the age of 16 without their parents consent. His two kids still see him but everyone else acts like he is dead, no one talks about him or mentions him. The one thing that hasn’t happened though is that people haven’t punished his children for his crimes.

LadysSmock · 24/04/2025 14:13

saraclara · 24/04/2025 14:02

Poor kid. Four years old. "Mummy, why is everyone else in my class invited to Spring minor's party, but not me?"
"Mummy, we invited everyone to my party, so why is no-one coming?"

Because Mummy decided to keep this man around and try and reintegrate him into the community.

Sorry, but for me that man is a risk. I wouldn’t punish the child but it’s the child’s parents who are doing this to their child. The child’s mother needs to sort out her priorities.

ByDenimPombear · 24/04/2025 14:13

BombayBicycleclub · 24/04/2025 14:07

Agreed. Just stay close to your kid like you’re meant to at parties because you don’t know what anyone is like. Or just don’t accept party invites and don’t invite them to your kids party. It’ll be reciprocal so your kid won’t be invited to theirs either. Job done.

But by the age of 6/7/8 posters on MN are complaining about parents hanging around at the party taking up space.

So what happens then at this kid's party? Should we hope by 7 that they can all handle the.selves with a sexual predator?

2024onwardsandup · 24/04/2025 14:13

And I’d say that your child will only come to a party at the other child’s house is the paedophile is not st
the house

id also very much judge the mother for still being with her paedophile husband

AnotherNaCha · 24/04/2025 14:13

saraclara · 24/04/2025 13:58

Your child will never be near that man, unsupervised. Don't punish his child for their father's actions.

Agree with this absolutely. And please don’t judge the mum. She may well be with him so the daughter isn’t in his custody alone at any time :(

murasaki · 24/04/2025 14:12

It would be a horrible conversation, and I don't know how I'd word it , but making it clear that only the mum is welcome or the kid can't come. Which is awful, but there's no easy answer to this one given parents stay at this age.

2024onwardsandup · 24/04/2025 14:11

I’d tell the child’s mother that the child
is very welcome but that the father shouldn’t come anywhere fucking near your child or your house

id also ask the school to disclose to the extent to can its policy and approach where a parent at the school is a registered sex offender

Maplesy10 · 24/04/2025 14:11

saraclara · 24/04/2025 14:02

Poor kid. Four years old. "Mummy, why is everyone else in my class invited to Spring minor's party, but not me?"
"Mummy, we invited everyone to my party, so why is no-one coming?"

Well then perhaps mummy should rethink her choices to have a close relationship with him and trying to reintegrate him into the community.
No thank you.
My priority would be that he is never around my children.

If her own mother won't prioritise her child, why should OP be given that responsibility.
I wouldn't want to be near the mother either.
Surprised how cavalier some would be on this subject. Explains a lot.

friendsonly · 24/04/2025 14:11

springisspringing1 · 24/04/2025 14:03

I suppose I just see it as different - other men being physically present and interacting with my kids at a children's party - fine. I wouldn't expect to police every word. In his case, I don't want him chatting to my kids in any way. We don't do drop and run parties - the kids are only four. He would stay.

I’m sure he’s not the only man who’s been present and interacting with your child who is that way inclined. Others just haven’t been convicted or you just don’t know about it.

unless you ban all men from ever taking to your child, they will be spoken to by paedos. You just have to supervise and not leave your child alone with them.

Gymmum82 · 24/04/2025 14:10

I can’t honestly imagine a time where he would be able to chat to your child at a party. Firstly at parties the kids are all off playing. Secondly you will be there and thirdly I don’t think I’ve ever seen any parents chat to children who aren’t there own at parties, surely you would be able to interject if you did see him trying to engage in conversation and tell him not to talk to your child. Or redirect your child to speak to you and send them off to join in. He’s not going to be able to start grooming your child at a 2 hour party while you are there watching his every move is he really? Whilst I wouldn’t want him near my kid you’re being hysterical because he won’t be able to be near your kid

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 24/04/2025 14:10

You cannot be confident that OPs child will never be alone with him. The only way to be confident of that is for OP to ensure her child has no contact with him whatsoever - which is what OP is proposing.

Parties, days at the park, friends houses, days out, whatever. 'oh, that's Freddy's dad calling me over, I wonder what he wants' that's all it bloody takes. He's not a stranger. He's their friends Dad. You can't expect a child to treat one parent differently to all the others, it's not possible.

I speak from experience here, as someone who was groomed, and also I have a child with a parent who was convicted of having images of children in DC's class.

ByDenimPombear · 24/04/2025 14:10

I'm surprised by how many posters are so easy going about allowing their children to become acquaintances with sex offenders.

My child would never go to a party where he was at. And I'd tell the mother that he's not allowed in my home. I'd also ring the police and confirm he's even allowed to attend these kind of functions.

It's awful for the child but it's his mother's fault for trying to smooth over his father's sex offences to the rest of the community.

Children rarely wander off with strangers, but someone they kind of know? Dave's Dad I met before, he's safe. He's Dave's Dad.

springisspringing1 · 24/04/2025 14:10

cooldayslikethis · 24/04/2025 14:09

Wow this is such a hard one. You don’t want a four year old excluded from parties but at the same time it’s not a nice thought knowing this person has the opportunity to even look at your child. I don’t know what to do op. Perhaps evaluate each party invite going forward and decide then. I.e party at their house might be a no but party at yours is a yes and just say preferably to the parents if only one parent could attend due to space in the house and hope it’s the mum that brings the child

I'm glad it's not just me who thinks this is tricky. And because there's only one class in the school, it's going to be an issue all the way up. I'm trying to think it through now.

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springisspringing1 · 24/04/2025 14:09

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 24/04/2025 14:05

you need to support opportunities to allow man to be reintegrated

Fuck that, with bells on.

It's not any child's job to be a rehabilitation aid for a fucking paedophile.

Ha - thanks for cutting to the chase!

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cooldayslikethis · 24/04/2025 14:09

Wow this is such a hard one. You don’t want a four year old excluded from parties but at the same time it’s not a nice thought knowing this person has the opportunity to even look at your child. I don’t know what to do op. Perhaps evaluate each party invite going forward and decide then. I.e party at their house might be a no but party at yours is a yes and just say preferably to the parents if only one parent could attend due to space in the house and hope it’s the mum that brings the child

springisspringing1 · 24/04/2025 14:08

Yes, tbh this is the way I am leaning. It is SO hard. My child is super chatty with all the dads - thinks of them as friends. I don't want this man being in that group.

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BombayBicycleclub · 24/04/2025 14:07

saraclara · 24/04/2025 14:02

Poor kid. Four years old. "Mummy, why is everyone else in my class invited to Spring minor's party, but not me?"
"Mummy, we invited everyone to my party, so why is no-one coming?"

Agreed. Just stay close to your kid like you’re meant to at parties because you don’t know what anyone is like. Or just don’t accept party invites and don’t invite them to your kids party. It’ll be reciprocal so your kid won’t be invited to theirs either. Job done.

springisspringing1 · 24/04/2025 14:06

saraclara · 24/04/2025 14:03

I'm sorry but that's an overreaction.

He did an awful thing, but your child is not at risk from him because he won't be alone with him.

That's your opinion. I think it's perfectly possible to start the grooming process in conversations under everyone's nose. I don't want this person seeming like "friendly Uncle X" - and it's not clear how I would police that without explaining the situation to my child, who frankly is not able to understand at this point.

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VickyEadieofThigh · 24/04/2025 14:06

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 24/04/2025 14:05

you need to support opportunities to allow man to be reintegrated

Fuck that, with bells on.

It's not any child's job to be a rehabilitation aid for a fucking paedophile.

Correct.

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 24/04/2025 14:05

you need to support opportunities to allow man to be reintegrated

Fuck that, with bells on.

It's not any child's job to be a rehabilitation aid for a fucking paedophile.

Motomum23 · 24/04/2025 14:05

Praying4Peace · 24/04/2025 14:03

Yabu
Not sure why you don't want child's dad bringing them to your child's party?
He won't ever be alone with your child.
Your child isn't at risk so for the sake of everyone's wellbeing, you need to support opportunities to allow man to be reintegrated, without putting anymore at risk

Why does she need to put her feelings aside so a paedophile and his sympathisers can feel comfortable??

springisspringing1 · 24/04/2025 14:04

saraclara · 24/04/2025 14:02

Poor kid. Four years old. "Mummy, why is everyone else in my class invited to Spring minor's party, but not me?"
"Mummy, we invited everyone to my party, so why is no-one coming?"

I totally take your point, which is why I am asking the question. It doesn't seem fair at all. But equally, what is the alternative? To be perfectly honest, if my DH was done for grooming/child sex abuse images, he would be gone from my life, so it does slightly raise concerns that the mother is still v involved with him.

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Motomum23 · 24/04/2025 14:04

YANBU - I had a situation where a woman bought her partner and child to my home and only afterwards told me that he was banned from being alone with children including his own. I told her to invite him into my house where my children were present and only give me this information afterwards was a complete breach of my trust and neither of them were allowed back to my home.
I wouldn't allow my child to their house and I wouldn't allow the father anywhere near my property.

saraclara · 24/04/2025 14:03

springisspringing1 · 24/04/2025 14:01

Thanks, @saraclara I don't really want my children near him full stop. It's the grooming element of the case - the fact that he was building a relationship with a child - it just seems like such a terrible breach of trust. I don't want him even talking to my children. And I don't know how to set out my worries to my kids either (obvs not saying anything to them now, because there just isn't an age appropriate way of explaining it).

I'm sorry but that's an overreaction.

He did an awful thing, but your child is not at risk from him because he won't be alone with him.